US announces Afghan drug policy shift
source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31580590/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/
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ebruce2
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Going after demand is a "blue sky" concept at best. We have been getting high in one form or another since the beginning of recorded history, so that will never change.
Everyone has their "drug" of choice, and their rationale for using it, whether it be tobacco, caffeine, weed, pills, alcohol, meth, coke, whatever. Decriminalization is the answer. We need to take a serious lesson from European policy makers in this regard
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ebruce2
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sickinjersey
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It is absolutely true. The soldiers that i know personally told me policy has shifted several times on the ground level. Sometimes they are supposed to get it and seize it and other times they are to ignore it. It is there biggest economy and why you might ask? This is the good part. Our junkies support the afghan war.Heroin is the biggest funding the taliban gets. Before we where leaving the taliban alone. because we where busy. Now they are a target and so is there funding.Address the drug problem in america in a responsible way and no more demand.Rehab and not prison. is the answer. Education not incarceration.
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sickinjersey
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GodsnLiberals
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sickinjersey:
have you ever tried to "educate" a junkie?
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GodsnLiberals
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sickinjersey
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sickinjersey:
yes i did just fine.
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sickinjersey
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regjoeschmo
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sickinjersey:
yeah sure educating them is the easy part, getting them to stay off the drugs when the system puts them in the same exact environment they were getting high in, and/or making them go to out-patient care where they can find new connections.......
recividism rates are substantially less when people are put into halfway houses and continually randomly tested for drug use.....
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regjoeschmo
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sickinjersey
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sickinjersey:
strict maintenance and testing with consequences for not adhering to the program guide lines.must maintain gainful employment or training for a job field.
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sickinjersey
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regjoeschmo
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hey dmass, considering the story itself is about opium farmers, i find your comment to be unreliable, let alone thought out.....
try reading the articles and not just the comments....(oh yeah try interpreting the comments correctly as well so you dont look so....shall we say uninformed??)
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regjoeschmo
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dmass5
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regjoeschmo:
Coming from someone who i doubt has seen any action of any sort? go cry about gaza sissy
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dmass5
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regjoeschmo
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regjoeschmo:
oh, now, on to the personal attacks........its a great way to debate on a subject, you know, no real substance, just a bunch of rambling..... is this supposed to upset me??
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regjoeschmo
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ozoneocean
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Ironically the Taliban, while not great people, weren't enemies if the US either until the unprovoked invasion of their entire country over the pretext that Al Qiada had a base in some unknown mountain cave somewhere there...
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ozoneocean
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dmass5
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Weed of course as you all know grows wildly over there. The local nationals smoke weed on the base, so i do not see this as being a reliable story let alone true.
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dmass5
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regjoeschmo
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I guess they only did this once it was deemed profitable for the mega farming industries to step in??
This has been a huge problem in Afghanistan since before we decided to go in and "fight al-queda".... The land owners never get in trouble even thoigh they are the ones forcing this specific crop to be grown, only the farmers get sanctioned... Why?? Good ol' corruption.... Plenty of money to pay off the politicians to word the laws in certain ways that protect the landowners, but villify the farmers.... Corruption such as this is not just an American disease....
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regjoeschmo
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Robroy1
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This is great as long as they keep Monsanto, Cargill, and the other thieves and thier GMO crops out of the loop, plan, picture etc. Get my gist?
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Robroy1
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JanforGore
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So now their policy will drive them into the hands of Monsanto.
Excerpt:
Multinational companies move into farming
"Soya has never been grown in Afghanistan and it doesn't form part of the country's culinary tradition, but a new programme, supposedly devised to combat malnutrition, plans to change all that. 1 USAID has funded Nutrition and Education International (NEI), set up by Nestle, to teach Afghans to sow and eat soya beans. 2 NEI is linked to the World Initiative for Soy in Human Health (WISHH),3 which was founded by the American Soybean Association (ASA) in 2000,4 to organise the distribution of free soya milk to pregnant women and infants throughout the developing world. WISHH works with the North American Millers' Association (NAMA), whose members include global giants ADM, Bunge Milling and ConAgro. In Afghanistan NEI works with Stine Seed Company, Iowa, and Gateway Seed Company, Illinois, both of which supply it with genetically modified Roundup soya and Roundup-Ready herbicide to be sold on to the farmers. According to NEI, it distributed two tonnes of genetically modified soya seed in Afghanistan in 2005. "
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Did anyone really think this government would do anything there because they care? There is MONEY to be made by these companies. The farmers will just go from one drug dealer relationship to another.This post is also featured on the Sustainable Agriculture Channel:
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JanforGore
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Ish05
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That's right. the problem is not the farmers. Most of them are victims of slavery and fear that if they don't produce the crop, they will be put in danger by the drug traffickers. We must go after the traffickers and the groups of people receiving the shipments. People will not admit this, because they don't know any better but Lyndon H Larouche has been saying this should be the policy of Afghanistan and it appears the government is listening. In fact, today he is having a webcast. Government officials around the world will be watching. You guys should check it out. It may change your idea of the man. He has more influence around the world than one might think.
http://www.larouchepac.com/ - 2 years ago
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wirehedd
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onemalefla:
hemp can and does grow wild in Afghanistan.
Some of the best hashish in the world has always come from the Afghan regions.
If they were to replace the opium fields with cannabis and hemp fields they would be able to increase their profits and reduce their risks.
The only problem would then be facing the retribution of the Taliban for cutting off their cash cow.
I also think the costs of opiate based medicines around the world would increase as well which would be a boost to big pharma so not necessarily a good thing.
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wirehedd
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onemalefla:
Holy smokes are people that un educated. Afghan bud was one of the biggest commercial buds available back when i was a kid.Afghan seeds have these nice stripes on them . They look like tiger skin. That was uncle sams source back in the seventy's. CIA probably needed money for intell or something like that. We have been there for longer than most people think. Do you remember the gold stamp cobra hash in full soles. They where everywhere as sixty minutes did it's piece on it.
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sickinjersey
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N_Dank
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another U.S. fail
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N_Dank:
you wake up in the morning with a hard on for American failure..so everything for you is an "American failure"
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GodsnLiberals
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bailey78
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Ofcourse marijuana is a safe alternitive, but that can only happen when we educate the ones against it.
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bailey78
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bailey78:
how about growing plants THAT WE CAN EAT..seesh!!
(my point about this weed things is that it makes people incapable of making sound judgments and decisions..well can you see my point now?)
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GodsnLiberals
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FallenMorgan
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We're there to prevent the Taliban from taking over, but what the fuck gives us the right to enforce OUR drug policies on them?
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FallenMorgan
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alivein85
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FallenMorgan:
"Afghanistan is the world's leading source of opium, cultivating 93 percent of the world's heroin-producing crop."
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alivein85
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FallenMorgan:
the point here kind sir is that garbage that grows out of that country is KILLING PEOPLE all over the world..NOT IN AFGHANISTAN but OUTSIDE OF AFGHANISTAN..hence we have every right to protect ourselved from this kind of danger..
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GodsnLiberals
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regjoeschmo
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FallenMorgan:
the main reason for deaths in illegal drugs is the cut...... clean drugs are hardly ever lethal unless one takes extremely too much.....
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regjoeschmo
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KCHARLES
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That's nice but what are the alternative crops and how are the farmers going to be compensated for them and when?
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KCHARLES
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alivein85
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KCHARLES:
um... how about food for starters?
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alivein85
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KCHARLES:
See below. Big ag will make sure they get to buy those patented GM seeds and Round Up pesticides every year just like they did in India. And then when/should the GM soy monocrop fail like the BT cotton did in India due to drought, let's hope the farmers of Afghanistan don't resort to drinking down Round Up as well to end their misery.
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JanforGore
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alivein85
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Good. That's a start, now can they look at Mexico with that same frame of mind?
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alivein85
