Woman faces charges of beating fawn to death after finding it lying in her garden
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Clifford Johnson, another neighbor, said, "She's scared, she's 75, she made a horrible mistake, but it's gotten to the point where people are calling her and talking about killing her."
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somehumansaresickos
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What a psychotic nut job this woman is as well as some of the commentators. Innocent fawns are always left for a few hours as their mothers go out and feed. I hope kharma ends this soulless woman's life real soon in just as brutal a way. and UGH to some of the scuzzy commentators on here - the earth would be a much better place without you heartless soulless lowlife red neck scumbags. You contribute nothing of value to this earth and its inhabitants.
- 2 years ago
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somehumansaresickos
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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Venison its whats for dinner! Every second they wasted on this case a heroin dealer ran drugs without worry. Epic Fail!!!!!!!!!!!
- 2 years ago
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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curtisreed
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"Frey said he has received dozens of e-mails from across the country urging him to prosecute the case to its fullest."
BURN THE WITCH
BURN THE WITCHwho are these losers that want to punish a 75 year old "country girl" for defending her crop?
do you city slickers actually think this is the FIRST time that farmers had to protect their crops from marauding varmints?
I've been called in to hunt coyotes that kill calves, I know of people who've asked if I could kill rabbits that eat all their flowers (they are tasty, too)...
bunch of damn concrete jungle ignoramuses.
- 2 years ago
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curtisreed
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Acedia
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I'd agree that she overreacted for sure, but I have to admit, I did laugh upon reading the quote, "I killed it - I killed it dead, and I'd kill it again." Just imagining an old woman saying that is pretty funny to me.
Now that I've said that, PETA will probably launch a campaign against me claiming that I'm in league with animal killers.
- 2 years ago
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Acedia
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Donovanwilliams
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Would this be news if after she killed the fawn, she ate it???? just wondering.... ummm moral of the the story... if your going to kill it at least eat it or use it for something....
- 2 years ago
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Donovanwilliams
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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Donovanwilliams:
She kicks ass just for killing anything at her age!
- 2 years ago
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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AnnaleeNoir
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it looks like "masterzip" and "good_stuff" were the only one with anything intelligent to say...
- 2 years ago
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AnnaleeNoir
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curtisreed
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AnnaleeNoir:
thank goodness you were here to clear that up! I was at a loss to decide who had said intelligent things, you know, being incapable of making that assessment myself.
- 2 years ago
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curtisreed
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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After beating it until tender, you would have found it lying across my Weber grill! She coulda kept it to herself and shared it with others for dinner!!!
- 2 years ago
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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CHANLEEPENG
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So sad to hear this. That lady was so scared in this incidence.
- 2 years ago
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CHANLEEPENG
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jh64487
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you ever seen deer go through a garden in the winter. it's madness and requires all kinds of defenses to stop. I'd kill'em too if i could and i wanted to deal with a dead carcass.
you really wanna make this a criminal case? it's not even a mental case.
pretty logical if you live around deer (though maybe a gun or knife next time ok lady?)
- 2 years ago
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jh64487
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curtisreed
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jh64487:
wow, i think that's the first thing you've written on current I can agree with. (admitting that just made me nauseous).
but see if she had shot it, it would have been a hunting violation. the knife would still count as animal cruelty.
she could have called animal control but the deer would just keep coming.
- 2 years ago
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curtisreed
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nakedbum
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old people suck at life
- 2 years ago
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nakedbum
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Eleganza
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Walt is spinning in his grave...and what about Thumper?
You would think that at least one of the seven dwarfs...sorry...little people...would have come to Bambi's rescue...Doesn't this woman understand that her garden is not for her consumption but belongs to the forest creatures. Man, someone get her to a Disney re-education camp!
She'll probably get more time than Donte' Stallworth, 30 days....but he just killed a man. - 2 years ago
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Eleganza
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Panzer_Tanzler
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Not an animal! We're still running out of those right?
- 2 years ago
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shroomfairy
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Just saw the story on my local news. They are saying she was scared baby deer would attack her and she hit it with a shovel until it was dead. The neighbor said she told him she was going to put the dead body on the lawn as a warning to other deer.
- 2 years ago
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shroomfairy
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dreamsenvoy
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dont blame me,she is one of delirium's
- 2 years ago
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dreamsenvoy
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good_stuff
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I love stories like this.
1) Stop getting upset. It sayed that the deer (notice the way I spell deer not dear) was lying in her garden alone. Haven't you guys seen bambi? Oh wait, you have and you think that a baby deer (fawn) can survive with the help of its forest friends. Fawn, like other mammals require milk to stay alive, and without its mother it would have none. This is probably why the fawn didn't put up much of a fight or even try to run away. The mother was likely killed by a car, and the fawn would have probably stumbled into someones backyard and gotten killed by their dog if not this lady. Someone could have bottlefed it, but what would be the point? It isn't like deer are endangered in Ohio, and even if it was released into the wild again, it would probably just go try to get food from a hunter and be killed anyways.
2) If you read the article, she isn't being charged with a hunting violation. She is being charged with animal abuse. It would have been much more impressive if the 75 year old lady would have bludgened a full grown deer to death, but that sounds rather impossible. Anyone who has hit a deer in their car knows that those things can withstand a sizable impact and still bound back into the woods.
3) Clearly she is going to get off after PETA stops calling this sheriffs office. Who in rural ohio would convict a little old lady of doing this? Also, since when is killing an animal creulity to animals? Here is a link to the Ohio law. Does it meet the definition? You decide.
- 2 years ago
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good_stuff
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cereal76
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good_stuff:
1) Nobody's getting upset, we're discussing the story.
2) What's your point?
3) She'll "get off" with a fine. I don't think any judge would put her behind bars. And yes, based on my interpretation of the link you provided (I'm not a lawyer), she's guilty of Statute 959.13 A(1).
- 2 years ago
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cereal76
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curtisreed
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good_stuff:
if she'd have shot the varmint, it wouldn't have been "cruelty" but it would then have been a hunting violation!
we have a new 'crop' of baby fawns in our neighborhood. God they are beautiful. I couldn't kill one, even to save my lettuce.
The mommies, on the other hand, look like good grilling!
:)
- 2 years ago
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curtisreed
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Paratus
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Wackjob woman.
We have a doe and twin fawns on our property. Another doe and a single fawn is also making a home around here. We are enjoying watching them grow and run around the property. Wouldn't even think of harming any of them
- 2 years ago
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csmonut
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Perhaps the lady is a bit addled?
- 2 years ago
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csmonut
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masterzip
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I don't see the crime. hunters kill dear by the boatload, and the simple fact that this woman used a club instead of a gun should not make this a criminal act. The dear is not a sacred animal.
we kill dear, we cook dear, we eat dear, we make tacky candlesticks and knife handles out of their antlers, we mount their heads as trophys.
i wounder if this woman will taxidermy her kill too? - 2 years ago
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masterzip
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cereal76
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masterzip:
This wasn't an 8 point buck harvested for meat or fur though, this was a fawn she found laying in her garden. When this sort of thing happens your supposed to scare the fawn away and then put a fence or chicken wire around your garden to keep them out, not kill them.
- 2 years ago
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cereal76
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bombastinator
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masterzip:
actually that is exactly why it's illegal.
Killing deer is highly regulated. Licenses, weapon types, times of the year, Animal sex and age, hunting area. All of them are requirements. This woman managed to break all of them.
- 2 years ago
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bombastinator
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shroomfairy
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She should be punished!!! Who beats a deer to death???
If I saw it in my garden, I would have thought 'how sweet, wonder if I can pet it' not 'let's kill it!'
- 2 years ago
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shroomfairy
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pjacobs51
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Crazy lady!
Dear are easily frightened away, she could have just yelled at it and it would have scrammed.
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pjacobs51
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pjacobs51
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pjacobs51:
Oops, ya got me on that one, lol.
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pjacobs51
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curtisreed
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pjacobs51:
Deer are nearly a plague in many rural areas. You may frighten them away in the moment, but they'll be back later to eat your garden. We have massive herds of them in our area, and no one can grow a garden. Trust me, their numbers are NOT threatened.
But laws on the books protect them and you can't do a damn thing about it. Same with coyotes in Denver and the area. They are attacking dogs ON THE LEASH and carrying them off, but it's illegal to kill them. Not even the Colorado Division of Wildlife can trap or kill them.
Silly liberals...
She should have just grilled the varmint and no one would have been the wiser.
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