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CIA lied repeatedly to Congress since 2001, says CIA Director Leon Panetta

source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/1658825,w-panetta-cia-lies-congress-070809.article

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WASHINGTON — CIA Director Leon Panetta told Congress last month that senior CIA officials have concealed significant actions and misled lawmakers repeatedly since 2001, the chairman and other members of the House Intelligence Committee said in letters revealed Wednesday.

Exactly what actions Panetta disclosed to the House Intelligence Committee on June 24 is unclear, but committee chairman Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, said that the CIA outright lied in one case.

“These notifications have led me to conclude that this committee has been misled, has not been provided full and complete notifications, and (in at least one case) was affirmatively lied to,” Reyes wrote in a letter Tuesday to Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the committee’s senior Republican. A copy of the letter was obtained by The Associated Press.

Reyes said in the letter that he is considering opening a full investigation.

Panetta brought the matters to the committee’s attention, CIA spokesman George Little said Wednesday.

“It is not the policy or practice of the CIA to mislead Congress. This agency and this director believe it is vital to keep the Congress fully and currently informed. Director Panetta’s actions back that up,” Little said in a statement to the AP. “It was the CIA itself that took the initiative to notify the oversight committees.”
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43 comments // CIA lied repeatedly to Congress since 2001, says CIA Director Leon Panetta

  • dariusvons
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  

    • stonefree87, Are you even an American. The congress represents us the citizens of this republic were in the hell do you get off saying that the CIA doesn't have to answer to us the government. Did the Bush years brainwash you so much you don't even know who runs the government or do like being told what to think by the right wing. Come on get real the government is us and too many of people like you would role over and have rolled over for the people who think they run the government. MY god what will it take to make someone like you to understand that nobody is above the law including the fucking CIA.

    • 2 years ago
  • stonefree87
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      stonefree87  

    • Why the hell should the CIA tell everything Congress? The very nature of everything the CIA does is secretive, and thats because it has to be in order to stay ahead of the game.

      Imagine you get some sponsership, make some empty promises and manage to get elected into Congress. Does that entitle you to be in on some of most secretive shit going on in the world? Absolutely not.

    • 2 years ago
  • asherp
  • stonefree87
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      stonefree87  
    • stonefree87:

      I don't recall anybody saying anything about "secret governments" or "secret police".

      It is extremely arrogant for the members of Congress to think they deserve to know everything the CIA is doing at all times... Much less to think that they could even handle it. There is probably not a single person in the world who knows everything the CIA does, and it's with good reason. Anybody who comes out of that sort of briefing would just want to blow their head off.

      The types of things the CIA does is secrete for a reason. Do you really think we could have an effective military/defense if we didn't collect intelligence first?

      Point is... Members of Congress are just elected politicians who probably never even went through a thorough background check to obtain those types of clearances. Therefore, they don't deserve to be briefed on these things... Might as well just publish all the details of the programs in the papers right?

    • 2 years ago
  • Brendan_M
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      Brendan_M  
    • stonefree87:

      @stonefree87:

      No one is trying to make the CIA turn over lists of active agents to Congress (although Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, and Scooter Libby aren't Congress, so they might be safe). They have certain members of Congress with security clearances in the leadership and on committees whose job it is to provide oversight and prevent the CIA from engaging in the criminal activities it did in the past. Look up the Church and Pike Committees.

    • 2 years ago
  • I_Tank_Reservoir
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      I_Tank_Reservoir  

    • If you think about it, money on an exchange - everyone in the world works for money. A foreign citizen can rent the USA and go home. We are in a trust as a captive audience that has sold us like sheep to any exchange it can pass debt to. Soldiers are trained the same all over the world. If the commission has authority against hell, that is all we need to support. One religion against all religion is evil - that is politics. Cowboys And Indians. CIA.

    • 2 years ago
  • montesooma
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      montesooma  

    • This story doesn't report the whole story which is typical of liberal bias.
      The fact is panetta said congress wasn't briefed about programs that were planned but were never implemented.
      These plans although secret had nothing to do with waterboarding but this is being used by pelosi and some of her puppet senators to confuse us about the fact that she lied about being briefed on waterboarding.
      If she keeps pressing it, she will only revive angst with the cia and they will be forced to publicly embarass her --she is proof that the most dimwitted schiesters rise in rank in the democrat party.

    • 2 years ago
  • kennymotown
  • I_Tank_Reservoir
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      I_Tank_Reservoir  

    • There is control. Some people have it. Some people buy it. Some people buy in control. Some people buy out of control. Once it is in control, there is a synthesis of all the words. Some control represents truth as the highest secret that is a secret in its own. I find system is eventually a life process. We are in the model T of system. What we need is a new system analyst for the new economy that allows the Declaration and Constitution to get its model in the digital age. It worked fine in an analog age, but checks and balances are no longer manual.

      The game is always how you treat women. Government never has controlled them and then when you go home, it is a woman whether you are in China, USA, Russia or a Island. No government is going to rule women and when you go home, it is a different world. When does anyone go home running the world?

      I think what we all need to realize is that the world economy is one person at a time. The new form of system has changed check and balance from analog interpretation to digital thresholds. People are gaining space on vertical and horizontal employment and something off the vertical does not fit the horizontal they are on. That is, substance is not fitting the form. Form follows function, they are in environmental space one department at a time. Small things get attended, the big stuff could affect them.

      The USA is now a contract space. In what contract you are on determines how much of the basic rights have been committeed out.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  

    • The timeline does not lie, Dick (The Prick) Cheney was going over to CIA headquarters everyday to make them get it right. So yes I will take single payer and card check you republicans can just go home, liars.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  

    • So I guess that he's admitting that they also lied about 9/11 too. He just can't come right out and say that there's a small faction of terrorist with in our own government.

    • 2 years ago
  • clovernuts
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      clovernuts  

    • Why do we even pay these people. I would hate to be the president and have to question whether or not my own people were not giving me 110 percent. Just no more BS wars please .... please..... pretty please. What was he trying to hide. I understand that the CIA in the past has held things from the presidency, but to what end. Is congress any different? I am tired of government being treated like guard dogs for the few. I try to rationalize this in my head and if we actually knew all the things the government did we would be sick. We need to stop messing with other countries and come home already. Osama isnt coming out of his cave wherever he is. Its a wild goose chase meant to keep us and our money over there. Why doesn't anyone say. Hey china its your backyard, what the hell. do we have to chase this guy in the dessert forever. This is a biblical size F up that needs to be resolved. Iraq I cant comment because I have never been. But I am sure its sandy.

    • 2 years ago
  • DreSandoval
  • bluestranger
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      bluestranger  

    • It is evident that a modern nation could not survive for long without an intelligence gathering organization. Problems arise when these organizations fail to give full disclosure to those in oversight or try to intervene without authority in the governmental process' of other nations. How do you stop this from happening without endangering our agents and those that cooperate with them?

    • 2 years ago
  • adamsmithfreedom
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      adamsmithfreedom [removed]  

    • and people want these centralized coercive monopoly government bureaucracies to do more?!?!?!? Unbelievable! It stll boggles me how people can want to vote in universal Pentagon run healthcare....

    • 2 years ago
  • Brendan_M
  • I_Heart_MAMBOSAUCE
  • cmdinc
  • kruzadir
  • jeckersly316
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • jeckersly316:

      I would be shocked beyond belief to see a Republican ever apologize to Pelosi. They were pleased as punch to throw her under the bus when she dared to suggest that the CIA misled her. In fact, they demanded an apology from her!

    • 2 years ago
  • jeckersly316
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • jeckersly316:

      Not just the GOP since it has been plenty of others besides them that have accused Pelosi of complicity and being an accomplice.

      Including more than a few on Current, she might have been duped like the rest of Congress but there are still a lot of evidence left incovered to explain some of her actions like "impeachment is off the table"

      If she was being blackmailed for things gained by wiretapping that would explain a lot more combined with the being mislead by the CIA.

      That remains to be seen until the whole story comes out.

    • 2 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  

    • I see the CIA as the military industrial complex dirty uncle... shame is that the american public is in the role of the innocent, naive, young virgin ;)

      You can thank Mindfuck Inc for that !

      "A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself": Joseph Pulitzer

    • 2 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • WhiteNoise
  • unimatrix0
  • Ares
  • unimatrix0
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • unimatrix0:

      So you are therefore alleging that Bush is also directly responsible for every act of misconduct performed by every commissioned officer in the entire Armed Forces, and that he should be punished for each of these aforementioned acts? Since, as I'm sure you know, every commissioned officer in the military serves at the pleasure of the President.

    • 2 years ago
  • Brendan_M
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      Brendan_M  
    • unimatrix0:

      @Ares

      You do realize this controversy is about the BUSH torture program, don't you? Considering this fact, I think it is a fair argument to make that the Bush administration is responsible.

    • 2 years ago
  • asherp
  • fayfay
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      fayfay  

    • i find it interesting that politicians have the nerve to act shocked that the CIA would lie to them. the general public knew they were lying, im not surprised. everyone knows the government lies. everyone. and those on the inside know better than anyone the truly deceitful nature of our political system.

    • 2 years ago
  • neocongo
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      neocongo  

    • We've known even before the start of the Iraq war that the Bush administration was cherry picking evidence, and telling the CIA to find more evidence, against Iraq. It isn't the CIA who should be under investigation.

    • 2 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
    • neocongo:

      Dear nocongo,

      its not as if the good old US of A is the absolute victim here. This empire wasn't built in a day. Blood has been spilled over the "good will" of corporations since the end of WW2 and before...

      Check the documentary The Corporation for size ;)
      http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=102

      I also produced 2 wildly unpopular clips just before the last election to bring home the facts know over the world but still largely ignored in America...

      GOP'S KILLING FLOOR
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QKfDdJ3ns&feature=channel_page

      OBAMA & HILLARY'S KILLING FLOOR
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNLxSleuec&feature=channel_page

      This one is more of an executive resume ;)

      HIGHEST BIDDER
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmhL8bjL9vc&feature=channel_page

      "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do." : Samuel P. Huntington

      "I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar-soaked fingers out of the business of these nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own -- and if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the "haves" refuse to share with the "have-nots" by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don't want and above all don't want crammed down their throats by Americans. ": -- General David M. Shoup - Commandant of the Marine Corps 1960-63, winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor - Source: May 14, 1966

      "The plutocrats believe there are some things worse than war: the confiscation of special privileges; the abolition of unearned income; the overthrow of the economic parasitism; the establishment of industrial democracy. The plutocrats would welcome a war that promised salvation from any such calamities; they would also welcome a war that promised greater foreign markets, the destruction of foreign competition, more security for property rights and a longer lease on life for plutocratic despotism." - Scott Nearing — 1917

      The moral of the story is... the is no moral ;)

      Our whole culture is organized around wealthy people who keep poor people poor, uneducated, and powerless.

    • 2 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  

    • OLBERMANN WEIGHTS IN WITH DAMAGE CONTROL ?

      Roaches & vermin scrambling around this turned over rock... hilarious !

      Countdown: House Democrats on Intelligence Committee Say They Were Misled by CIA
      http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/countdown-house-democrats-intelligen...

      Look at American history since 1963: the assassination of the Kennedys, Dr King, most of the Black Panther leadership and Jimmy Hoffa; the shooting of Governor George Wallace. The revelation of CIA plots against foreign leaders. Massive domestic surveillance and disruption programs by the FBI and CIA. The CIA shipping opium in Laos and Vietnam, organising forty, fifty thousand assassinations in Vietnam under the Phoenix programme; tens of thousand more in Indonesia. Secret wars all round the globe trying to police the US empire. All this began to emerge in the 1960s after the destruction of the Warren Commission Report on the assassination of JFK and the revelations continued through the 1970s as part of the spin-off from Watergate. Since the advent of Republican administrations in the eighties we've had Irancontra; the October Surprise; the clandestine arming of Iraq; billions of dollars ripped-off from the Savings and Loan banks; hundreds of thousand of corpses in Central America — including a few American nuns — created by death squad regimes working as US proxy governments. A vast military-industrial-intelligence complex — everything President Eisenhower warned America of in his farewell speech in 1960 — totally beyond democratic control, gobbling up hundreds of billions of dollars.

      Total Coverage: The CIA, Contras, and Drugs
      http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1998/08/total-coverage-cia-contras-and-drugs

      CIA WATCH
      1) http://johnlocker.com/all-videos/conspiracy/secrets-of-the-cia.html
      2) http://www.ciawatch.net/
      2) http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CIA_ThirdWorld.html

      THE MIGHTY WURLITZER SPEWS UPON.A NATION OF VILLAGE IDIOTS ?..

      At least 22 American news organizations had employed American journalists who were also working for the CIA, and nearly a dozen American publishing houses printed some of the more than 1,000 books that had been produced or subsidized by the CIA. When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its media agents what to write, William Colby replied, Oh, sure, all the time !

      PS : Check out Carl Bernstein's 1970s Rolling Stone article on the CIA's stranglehold on the US media, which has gotten far worse since then:
      http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/cia_press.html

      CIA Instructions to Media Assets
      http://192.220.64.45/collections/assassinations/jfk/cia-inst.htm

      "The media is not influenced by the CIA - the media is the CIA." -Robert Lederman http://www.konformist.com/2000/bush-dictator.htm

      EVEN IF ONLY HALF OF THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE...

      WHO'S YOUR DADDY USA ?

    • 2 years ago
  • VoyagerFilms
  • Eleganza
  • bluestranger
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  

    • SO ADD THE CIA & THE WHOLE J.EDGAR HOOVER INSPIRED FBI TO THE LIST OF CULPRITS GUILTY OF TREASON... OH YEAH & THE ROGUE ELEMENTS OF THE US ARMY TOO HEY ;)

      "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." - J. Edgar Hoover

      If Americans where be serious about taking back their country, they would have to go back to the Kennedy assassination & follow the money from then on... http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=235

      Fat chance of that ever happening since the magic bullet was enough of an explanation for the lot of them ;)

      "The American people don't read."
      - Former CIA director Allen Dulles, speaking about how the American people would respond to the inconsistencies in the Warren Commission report on the JFK assasination

      So its back to school kids...

      See the earth turns around the sun & is older than 6000 years...shocking, I know ;)

      "Americans do not have the intellectual capacity to revolt. All you need to keep them pacified is to give them a dozen donuts & a gun !" - Max Keiser

      “It’s here that the American dream decided it liked the taste of the vomit it was chocking on. Just rolled over on its back and screamed for more drugs. it didn't die.“ - Warren Ellis

    • 2 years ago
  • bansheewail
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      bansheewail  

    • So, let me get this straight, the CIA has to tell on itself to get any action on the false pre-war intel that the Bush administration used to send our soldiers and tax dollars to Iraq........ Is that it? I'm being coy. Of course, that's what happened. But, why did they lie? At whose direction? What was their motive? Who benefited?? Keep in mind, that the CIA is part of the Executive Branch.

    • 2 years ago
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