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Ah yes, the company with polling showing that people on 20k a year think their taxes will go up if the top 1% of earners get a rate hike.

Polling showing that people think US healthcare is simultaneously poor and amazing and needs to change and needs to stay the same ALL AT ONCE.

No, sorry, gonna have to find better polling, their survey design in this area is poor, particularly compared to some of their other work.

Obviously the Ras poll is funded by right wing think tanks. The times poll shows 72% of Americans want single payer or a government option.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmno. Not buyin' it. Next poll will be telling me that most Americans wanted McCain to be elected Emperor last November 7th.

Thank you for actually paying attention to whats actually happening. I'm tierd of doctors being tools and not being able to actually heal a problem from the base and not just suppress it with drugs. The things that they dont tell you is all drugs come from a natural substance from nature. They take it, brake it down, rebuild it a little differently so they cant put a patent on it and sell it to you @ 1000% mark up. These people need to Die and burn in gasoline and so do the ones who support these habits. Its great that some good things came out of it, but its gotten way way way out of control. Not FDA approved, For the right price..............

"So, why should I be paying for some joe blow to have health care."

Because then your healthcare is cheaper, and your overall bill goes down. The current US system costs *everyone* more. The systems in place everywhere else in the developed world cost less.

Paying less and getting more leaves people more healthy, for longer, and more free to pursue whatever form of happiness they like. Unless of course they enjoy having their choices in life limited by inefficient healthcare.

So why dont they just pass a reform bill to cut down on the stupid lawsuits. If the doctors didnt have to pay out the ear for malpractice insurace, they could lower their rates. And, if that would happen, then insurance rates would lower. Making it more affordable for everyone.

malpractice insurance.........These doctors are god damn murderers. Check the charts son. How many mistakes are buried EACH year. I bust my ass everyday and make more then the average american....my health insurance is one up from a bubble gum machine. Malpractice insurance my ass. Wake up. Its big Pharma,big yahts,Big houses........ We will never stop them. The government is the hope. Its sad but true.
Um the mail works fine, Police, I feel pretty safe, um military....we blow alot of shit up. That seems to work fine. Something has to be done. The republicans bitch and complain its not going to work. Lets keep this Simple.................IF YOU DONT HAVE A BETTER WAY SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Thanks Rick for your comments. It is sad how people really believe that a public healthcare plan would actually work. Even when you give deathly statistics to the effects of a healthcare plan. They choose not to listen. 70% of U.S. citizens are satisfied with the current healthcare plan. Its sad that people choose to believe that the gov't "is the hope" that is plain ridiculous. Gov't is not here to provide for my every need!!!

Yes Brit... Exactly. infact.. the less the goverment has to do with my life, the better i will be.

" According to polls conducted by the New York Times,Wall Street Journal, NBC, Kaiser Family Foundation, and Consumers Union, the majority of Americans desire a public health insurance option."

from link....

I'm laughing, it hurts.

Government run healthcare costs less. A lot less. That means *smaller* bills.

Anyone claiming that reform means "increased taxes" [net of a corresponding and much greater drop in non-taxation outgoings] is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

The thing that pisses me off the most about neo cons is that you all sound like a broken fucking record. over and over and over the same bullshit with nothing really behind it to back up an actual thought. Taxes, gov reg.
I'm tierd of fucking hearing this shit.
The def. of conservative.......does not like change.......you might as well Just die cause we moving on.

what does a brit know about it anyways.

the majority of the world has such healthcare and it works fairly well (certainly a lot better than our system) for the majority of the world.

Are you people out of your minds. Where are you getting the facts that say that gov't healthcare will cost less. Gov't spending will increase. It is projected that spending by the federal gov't would increase by about $1.17 TRILLION over a nine yr period. This plan would increase federal spending by $452 BILLION, and more than 6 TRILLION over ten yrs!!!!. Obviously that means a very steep increase in taxes. Now lets take a look at gov't regulation. In Europe, there where 15000 people over 75 who died of cancer because they where not treated immediately. Essentialy, the gov't decided these people "weren't worth it" so they where treated much too late for any hope of being cured. What about the economy. We will see a loss in competition in both healthcare and pharmeuceutical companies because the gov't will decide who gets to do what. So, username do not say I dont have proof to back up my arguments. Where is your proof anyway?

US healthcare is less efficient and less effective at service provision than, well, everywhere else.

And costs roughly twice as much.

You pay more, get less, die quicker and have an excessive infant mortality rate [WHO and CIA statistics, freely available].

Those with "government healthcare" pay less, and in general live longer [controlling for other factors], and are happier for it [the notion of "medical bills" and the resulting hardship as used in this context is pretty much a uniquely American construction].

Every meaningful index says US healthcare delivery is broken, and that everywhere else in the world [using a pretty much every other permutation of service organisation] with even loosely comparable resources does it better.

That's shameful, and a situation caused almost entirely by the likes of you and the sort of disinformation you spew here.

Are you trying to say that we will be losing are freedom with a Uni health care system?

you have freedoms?

Centrally planned, highly regulated economies DO NOT work.
Remember the 75 year experiment called the Soviet Union?
A disaster in all respects.
Note that we are expected to emulate the systems supporting limited populations of Canada, France, Britain or Sweden.
We are not a cheeky little country where this little model works.
Where is the EU health care system?
Why haven't the countries of European Union thrown over their systems for the centrally planned model for all?

Ok, you show me this video, mike M shows me a different one.........which one is true?

This is nothing like what my local doctor's office is like. Walk in or otherwise. Yes, we do have long line ups, but at least we get care. (I live in Canada).

EU states all administer their own versions of socialised healthcare delivery. Some better in areas, worse in others.

None costs as much or delivers as little as the US system. In fact they *all* cost significantly less, and after taking into account a demographic washout period for past histories of abject poverty or poor service delivery, we live longer.

The primary reasons for not having an EU system [and for the record, there is an EU wide system of reciprocity in which individuals can access healthcare when outside their home nation] include the small matter of having lots of different primary languages, lots of different [compatible but not congruent] training systems and structures for healthcare professionals and a thousand others.

The main reason we don't have "EU healthcare" is that we don't need it - everyone already *has* proper healthcare coverage.

As for the "massive" US population - the largest state population is [open to correction] CA with about 37 million which is significantly less than quite a few EU member states.

what nameless said, the rest of the developed world has some form of gov healthcare. it works better for some nations than others but it ALL works better than america's system.

stop bullshitting.

they could literally just model it on any number of the successful plans implemented by other developed nations, almost all of whom have some form of gov healthcare.