Artistic tendencies linked to 'schizophrenia gene'

lmao... priceless.

Agreed!!! Unless each individualized creative process was recorded and/or documented, it would be impossible to determine the "Creative Process". Not only would that be difficult it would also (I believe) be challenging to attribute the creative processes to any type of disorder. Sounds to me like someone is misinterpreting their raw data, which you stated is flawed anyway. Ambiguous data will always have a flawed conclusion.

LOL, no schizo tendencies yet, but I was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder when I was 18. At least that's what the voices tell me.

The bipolar brain needs double the nutrition otherwise sinks into schizville. Oxygen is also a nutrient. Oxygen deprivation of the bipolar brain doesn't work out so well. Then the meds they give ya are non-human (made of lab chemicals) so the Immune System sees them and a 24 hour a day battle begins. Slowly what little oxygen you have left is being burned up by the battle.

At that point many teens commit suicide, a lot because it occurs to them they are skirting brain death... so they decide they would like to go out faster.

Meds don't supply nutrients. They keep doctors rolling in dough -and pharmacists- (who sometimes sell you placeboes at fuill cost so we don't suspect they sold us sugar in a pill).

This topic has troubled me for many years. One reason is that I don't think the phenomenon is properly limited to artists.

I think most of us can appreciate the ways in which our thinking becomes, for lack of a better phrase, more subtle and more sophisticated as we grow older. This came home to me with particular force when I once tried to explain MY perception of a historical event to a classroom full of 13-year-olds. The first five minutes were fine. But then the experience reminded me of trying to explain color to a blind person.

I think that in any society there are minds so great that they make the rest of us look like those 13-year-olds. But I think that the PRICE of having such minds is often (not always or perhaps even most of the time, but often -- it just so happens that we are more likely to learn of the presence of such a mind in artists because we can see and touch the physical manifestations of those minds in the form of their art works.

But we sometimes see the same qualities in great minds that are not artistic (or at least not primarily so). The two names that come most immediately to mind are Winston Churchill and Abraham Lincoln. Both were undoubtedly deep thinkers and brilliant men who were also highly sensitive to the people and events that surrounded them. Both were also lifelong sufferers from dark afflictions that included at a minimum severe clinical depression. Admittedly, Churchill was a vigorous, if unevenly talented painter. But that was not his "gift."

But for some reason I sense that at least part of the explanation for their greatness lies in this tension between their great minds and the demons with which those minds are called upon to wrestle. The latter are almost like a crucible, distilling and focusing their genius so that they create artwork or abolish lavery or whatever remarkable task they choose.

OK, it was just a THEORY...

Whoops. Left out a fairly important half-sentence early on: The price of having such minds is that they are often afflicted with disorders that can be profoundly disturbing and/or debilitating.

Hope that helps...

Cztheday wrote => "like a crucible, distilling and focusing their genius so that they create artwork or abolish Slavery or whatever remarkable task they choose. OK, it was just a THEORY..." if you only knew, but the demons are a lot more external as someone else mentioned earlier, the hordes of people you run into who sense the depth and try to make it fit what they know. TRY GOING TO A DOCTOR. The male doctor has been my worst enemy for 20 years. Their names change but the pattern stays the same.

By 2002 I decided to start writing my website, partly to release my inventions but also to keep a record of what the doctors were doing and how many ways they were deciding to let me die. They were general practitioners supposed to help me walk again (my legs were smashed in 1989, foot bent up to the shinbone). Unable to walk, my circulatory system went downhill, bringing me into both athero- & arterio-sclerotic diseases, gout, cancers, and other cripplers. Last year my heart came to a complete stop, and I died. Also had 3 anginas prior to that and also a major heart infarction. Their not helping me walk again left me unable to do aerobics of any kind... so BASICALLY I HAVE BEEN CHAINED AND DRAGGED BEHIND A PICKUP TRUCK DRIVEN BY DOCTORS.

Once they found out in 1990 that I had the bipolar gene anything I would say they just shrugged. But in 2004 I found online a product called MUSCLE JACK that purported to "unlock" testosterone. I got some and 8 days after taking it I was 98% PAIN FREE. They had decided I was "whining" about an imagined problem and also WANTING ATTENTION FROM DOCTORS. hahahaha I had hobbled around on a cane barely able to function but go do some shopping... drive Mom to her cancer treatments and that was it, since 1989.

I told one of em about my car engine that does not pollute and to be honest I decided that if he would help me walk better I would shower the man with MONEY if I ever made any.... but after telling him "I HAVE AN ENGINE NO ONE ELSE HAS" hehehehe that was when he just new I truly was a nut case. Yeah. I brushed all their crap to the side and kept following the path I knew needed to be followed, no matter what they did to me or how many times I needed an antibiotic and they wouldn't give me any (and I really did need them because my Immune System is dysfunctional all my life).

You have to maintain your focus and not allow these crumb bums from getting in the way not even they expose you to every manner of illness by withholding needed medical care. Here's what they thought was crazy => IMITATION ENERGY better than artificial sugar => www.newpath4.com/imitationenergy.htm# And here is just a fraction of what they tried to CURE ME OF DOING =>

http://www.newpath4.com/betrayedbymodernscience_crashingflyingcarsthroughthespac...

but hmm, no, I'm not a "genius", not really. Although in 1989 after I saw how to get half the country's electricity from lightning it was rather plain I was walking on a different path. Sorry you didn't get it yet. I was very ill all this time and have had to write more than produce. I am however close to having the Gravity Wheels running continuously. I began working on them this past March => http://tinyurl.com/GravityWheelOne .

A few weeks ago I exposed condoms for containing cancer-causing biphenyl plastic that is released by sweat into the woman... so that's why Trojans just came out with some new CONDOM ADS on the airwaves. Then more recently I let go with microwave tower radiation harming the fetus as their Mom-to-be is surrounded by people at the Mall using cellphones =>

http://tinyurl.com/EndTimesScienceofBabyKilling ....

The Mayan prophecies foretold we would come to a CRUCIBLE TYPE MOMENT where we would have to choose a better way of life or we would all die. It has been blessings poured on me to be the one bringing a lot of those new ways, but I also have to expose old ways that seriously need to change. (Please see => http://tinyurl.com/SpecialYears2012 ).

A lot of new engines are being developed today so some people don't understand why MY ENGINES are the best. Well, my engine systems are not crippled by an EMP BOMB EXPLODED IN SPACE nor are they put out of commission by increasing solar radiation magnetic spikes spraying increasing levels into our planet.

Just last week astronomers noted the solar has begun increasing.
It is IMPERATIVE my engines get built, not a choice.

I am bi-polar also(supposably).I just make what the voices in my head tell me to.

Sid Barret (Pink Floyd founder) is a prime example.

absolutely man. I'd say Bob Dylan as well. the list goes on and on and on.

WTF... a schizophrenic that recovers? That would have to be in a mysticism class... I am sorry man, I usually like what you have to say, but this is probably going to go down as the dumbest thing I will hear all month.

As I recall, this (this was a feeeeeeew years ago, the text is still buried in my stacks somewhere) There was a comparison of "Dark night of the soul" experiences in religious/mystical texts and narrations of schizophrenic experiences where the individuals were very very far gone, and then progressed back "out". I don't think that they were "cured", but it apparently didn't get that bad for them again, and some sort of functionality as we commonly think of it was regained. They apparently worked SOMETHING out. I was an art major, not a psych, so I didn't pursue the issue in terms of the overall medical history and treatment of the patients . I'm afraid I was more fascinated by the guys fasting in deserts and whatnot.

i'm an artist, where are my models and stuff? but on a serious note, i've battled depresion my whole life as well as adiction so i can attest to there being to sides to the gift. most admire the ability but don't understand the cost of it.

I strongly disagree, as a creative thinker. Analytical thinking is an integral part of the creative process. :)

Let me rephrase that......people who are only analytical, thinkers, and have little use of their creative side, rarely understand the function or process of creativity, and would rather point their fingers at something like "crazy artists" because they have little understanding of what goes into being creative in the first place, or what inspires a creative thought.

Artists typically are great analytical thinkers as well as creative thinkers.

thankyou

why did this video autostart when I loaded the page?

:/ does it matter?