Chinese War Games: Raw Video

Not really man

Ours aren't bad though.

Don't forget India and Pakistan in that equation. Both have nuclear weapons, reliable delivery systems, and pretty big stakes in the region should the Great Dragon decide that it wants to be an imperial power again.

In spite of all the noise from North Korea, I don't think these maneuvers are necessarily geared to put them on notice. If they get too out of hand, China has the economic and military power to crush them like a bug on a windshield.

If I were a betting man (...and I am), I'd say that all of this is to let the western powers know that China's military is just that much closer to being on par with them in terms of weapons, strategy, and tactics on the battlefield. And, judging by the clip, they are not quite there yet...but they are getting close.

That's when we need to start worrying.

I do not see India and Pakistan being in an equation for Russia and China. China has a very sophisticated missile defense system, comparable only to ours... Russia has a pretty good one too. China has been a formidable foe militarily since the late 50s when they realized we might be a threat... we can thank General MacArthur or Eisenhower for that one... you can run that blame either way really... neither got what they wanted and China entered the arms race because of it amassing an enormous military that we would have problems with just because of its shear size.

Of course Russia is formidable themselves as well.

Another thing you should remember is that China does not like flexing muscles, they prefer the sleeping giant profile. For instance, people like to tout how our defense budget is 600+ billion where as China's is only 70.27... China's reported defense budget does not include strategic forces, foreign acquisitions, military-related research and development, and China’s paramilitary forces... all of which our budget does include, and a large portion is taken up by research budgeting... In reality, their military is on par with ours at the least.... they are still noting to worry about, they do not want a war with us for a million reasons... mostly because there would not be much left of either country when it was over.

Russia does like flexing muscles though, so everyone knows where they are at, and no one wants to press there luck... except Georgia for some reason.

No one trusts China or Russia, and they certainly do not trust each other, so no, this... there is something behind this, it may never come to be what ever it is, but these are not just war games.

agreed i was wondering while i watched what our war games exercises look like to the rest of the world.
We always seem ready to kill first ask questions later.

do you think obama's new administration is oppressing you??

I just wanted to add a little perspective when making comments on Chinas military. China spends the equivalent of about 85 billion dollars/year on defense while we are now spending over 600 billion a year. I don't expect China will ever spend as much as we do on because they recognize that thier most powerful weapon is their economy. Why piss away billions on bombs, bullets, tanks and ships when they could crush us economically without firing a shot?

Precisely Mark, but they will not do that now, China is not beyond taking a hefty blow from crushing us economically but they will need another market, preferably a domestic one to support there manufacturing based economy.

i feel like liberal appeasement is less of a factor than neocon refugee camps.

a terrorist would love to put you in a refugee camp..all they want is the chance..and you are fighting to give him THAT chance

In most cases, terrorism is a response to oppression, poverty, hunger, dictatorship, or war.

Try reading a history book for once. Oh wait, never mind, history has a liberal bias...

I'm an Army cadet. I'm definitely not fighting to give them that chance.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what terrorism is and how it can be fought. Hint: ideas can't be shot, and bombs rarely change minds.

True enough...but the fact remains that the difference between "terrorist" and "freedom fighter" can be precarious at times. Ideas motivate the trigger finger after all...

""In most cases, terrorism is a response to oppression, poverty, hunger, dictatorship, or war.

Try reading a history book for once. Oh wait, never mind, history has a liberal bias..."

*******

and in response..

then the lifestyle you are living and enjoying is pretty oppresive, causes poverty, hunger and dictatorship in middle east..so you are pretty much part of the problem...

come on..dont tell me you depend on oliver stone and micheal moore to tell you the truth (for a fee of course)..

when you read a book do you comprehend??