Chevron: ‘We’re not paying’ $27b fine for Ecuador rain forest contamination

This case isn't about other ways we can find or use energy... This is about a company that came into a land that wasn't theirs and left toxic biochemical waste that is killing the indigenous communities in Ecuador and all over the Amazon; the people and the environment have been severely damaged by what Texaco/Chevron left behind. I highly recommend watching Crude (2009), you can find it on youtube.

WHAT: Protest Chevron--Join the Mobilization for Climate Justice
WHERE: Richmond BART; Richmond BART (16th St & MacDonald Avenue)
WHEN: Saturday, August 15; 11:30am Festival/Rally, followed by 1pm March on Chevron oil refinery
INFO: http://www.actforclimatejustice.org/2009/07/444/
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No you didn't. You just bought Chevron gasoline under a different brand name.

Do a little research on how petroleum is produced and distributed.

If you really want to boycott Chevron---you need to use ethanol or biodiesel.

If you really want to drive a car that uses no petroleum at all, you will have to buy a Chinesse car. China is the only country in the world producing cars that run on 100% ethanol. 4.4 million in the last 2 years. They run on hydrous ethanol, straight from the still---no petroleum blending.

Your only other option is a diesel engined vehicle, using B100(100% biodiesel). The only difference you as a driver will be able to tell is that there will be no clouds of black smoke when you start up or accelerate. There will also be no sulphur smell, biodiesel contains no sulphur. Performance, mileage, and maintaince are all the same or slightly improved with biodiesel.

Ethanol can be made from almost any plant material at all.

Biodiesel can be made from any plant or animal lipids(vegetable oil). Biodiesel can be made from saltwater algae, and requires no refining.

We do not need petroleum at all.

Biofuels can do anything that petroleum can do.

And they can do it better, with no damage to the environment or economy. Just wait till you see the damage to the economy the next time the price of oil spikes again.

I boycotted Chevron a long time ago...thank goodness.

We have LOTS of options. Many of them have been around for 100 years or more.

You are being lied to in the coporate media to keep monopoly control over what you buy and can do.

The things that I think we should do are all being done right now----and we've been doing them for over 50 years. Nothing involves complex, untried or exotic, expensive technology. Everything is off the shelf, well tried and well proven technology that uses everything we use now, the way we use it now. It is not expensive, and in most cases will cost less than what we are doing now.

PM if you want to hear more.

That was well said , wetdog . Personally I see a lot of energy waist , getting it from a central location to where is needs to be used in homes and businesses . By being as energy independent as possible we can also weaken their grip . That way whoever generates energy in the future will not ever have such control as big oil does now . When individuals and communities grow stronger , corporate power weakens . We must have real options .

Time to invest money in stocks of companies that are working to bring biofuels into the market place.

Algae oil and ethanol.

Talk is cheap. And it gets you nowhere.

The way to fight economic terrorism (which is what this is), it to take away the source of the terrorist's power.

These terrorists derive their power from the money derived by the sale of fossil fuels. Don't expect governments (US or otherwise) to do anything, the fossil fuel monopoly has them under their thumb also. The energy monopoly means that they will do as they damned well please---and the governments will pass any laws or provide any assistance(including armed intervention with military---Iraq war).

Break the monopoly, and you break the power base. You break a monopoly by introducing competition.

Investment in companies that will bring biofuels to the market will break the monopoly of Big Oil.

We need millions of ordinary people to buy stock in companies that will bring biofuels to the market to compete with oil.

Biofuels can do anything that petoleum can do, and do it better.

Jail time would be cheaper . It is hard to pass that on to the consumers too .

You are making biased opinions. I bet you haven't read the full story. Remember that Texaco was in a joint venture with the state owned oil companies that both drilled for oil in the area. Also, what you are not stating is that Texaco/Chevron has also dedicated millions over the last decade to clean portions of this area. But as the typical socialist government, which attempts to exploit the victimhood of its people and ecology, it goes after the big money, with its greedy thirst unquenchable. So goes the story with socialism, it will always need a victim/moving forward.

then it's time to start putting the CEO's in jail isn't it?