Jimmy Carter Leaves Church Over Treatment of Women
source: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/20/jimmy-carter-leaves-church-over-treatment-of-women/?...
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After more than 60 years together, Jimmy Carter has announced himself at odds with the Southern Baptist Church -- and he's decided it's time they go their separate ways. The former president called the decision "unavoidable" after church leaders prohibited women from being ordained and insisted women be "subservient to their husbands."
"At its most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to the wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and influence within their own communities."
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Marilynn_Murray
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Jimmy Carter is a truly decent, honest person. He could have retired and made a fortune speaking and all the other ways former presidents have milked the cash cow. Instead he lives very simply and builds houses for habitat for humanity.
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Marilynn_Murray
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JohnA
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Marilynn_Murray:
That is very true and I believe that. I just think his vision is a little scewed.
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JohnA
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kennymotown
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cztheday, I bet he doesn't even answer you. When facts are shown to them they hide behind their girly dresses and call us names. Please when will we ever have another republican like Eisenhower. Take your party back before you all turn into droids with bad breath.
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kennymotown
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cztheday
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kennymotown:
I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you I have still not seen a response (well except from you know who -- he who must not be named). Speaking of whom, have you noticed that he has great difficulty completing a post without some reference to homoeroticism?
I have been married for nearly 20 years and have two kids...so I am admittedly long gone from the hormonal roller coaster of my teens and twenties...but is it still not the case as it was in my day that a guy who has "gone without" for an extended period of time tends to keep in mind that which excites him most?
I don't know what your situation is, but my wife is such a consistently great cook that I am never tempted (or have the energy for that matter) to have anything other than a home-cooked-meal (so to speak), so it is a little hard for me to relate. I feel sorry for the little guy though...and for the troll to which he is connected...
Anyway, I thought you might want to know that I had not heard back from BD -- and see if you had any thoughts about our other learned colleague...
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cztheday
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cztheday
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BullDogg,
OK, this one I gotta hear. What is your "theory" as to how Carter helped Khomeini rise to power?
Is it as interesting as Carter's successor's conveyance of American-made military arms to Iran in return for contributions to the Nicaraguan contras in violation of Congressional Directives? As discussed in this exerpt:
After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages. The investigation was compounded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials. On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."[
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cztheday
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kennymotown
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How little you know BullDogg! Who's your hero, Reagan the treasonist traitor, Bush the war criminal, both Bushies are!
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kennymotown
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BullDogg
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Wasn't Carter's claim to fame helping Ayatola Kumainie rise to power? Yes, the one and same supreme leader of Iran that everyone has come to loath.
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jh64487
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BullDogg:
no you're thinking of khomenei,
today's leader is khamenei. easy mistake to make but they're two different people and everyone in iran still pretty much like khomenei including the youth rioting in the streets fo tehran today.
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jh64487
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BullDogg:
JH - that's bull shit. Both are sicko fucking fundamentalist Shiites - both run the country from behind the president's back, both hate America and now the current fuck is getting on people's nerves - with don't do this and don't do that. And if you defend that government - we all know who and where you are...
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cztheday
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He is one of the most fundamentally decent men ever to occupy the White House. He simply could not match the cold, heartless hypocrisy of his political enemies and lacked the entrenched political network among the powerful Congressional players in his own party.
I have not read his book on the Palestinians, but I can't believe people are using it to DEFINE him after the DECADES of incredible work he has done just in the areas of fighting poverty and homelessness since he left office. He has done more good work than all of the former Presdents since him COMBINED -- and I mean by a country mile...
And Israel is not exactly hurting for influence in DC. I suspect they will survive a counterpointed book by an aging former President -- if it makes them think a bit harder about consequences (both intended and unintended), that is almost certainly a GOOD thing. Their election of BN will get them the results they deserve for electing him in the same way we got ours for electing Bush the Lesser...
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cztheday
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kennymotown
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cztheday:
Most modern day republicans would not know a good man if he walk right up to them and said Hi I'm Jimmy Carter. But they sure like that Palin butt don't they.
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kennymotown
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kennymotown
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No doubt jh64487 Carter was a great president and history has already proven him to be correct about the energy situation and the light of day on how Reagan's gang stole the election by having arms for hostages and a release on swearing in day. That was treason negotiating with the enemy without the Administrations approval. Someday these bastards Karma will get them, oh it already has in the form of the worst president ever Bush. Ha Ha Ha.
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kennymotown
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kennymotown:
lmao!!!
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davesarush
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jubal
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kennymotown:
Not to mention that the GOP is in the toilet. I can hear the flushing now......FLUUUUSSHHH
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jubal
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jh64487
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See, Jimmy is simply the man, he's got a lot of idiot haters, but mostly they're just ignorant.
what did ol reagan do after he left office? dedicate a few museums and libraries to himself? maybe give a few overpaid speeches. then he died.
of the two, Jimmy is clearly the man.
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Abraham99
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Jimmy Carter is a hero of every communist who tried so hard to impress their citizens with beautiy and freedom of stars like Che, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Lenin, Stalin and Mao. He is the quintessential attention-grabbing communist who will never pass an opportunity to shame this country. He reminds me of Mr. Obama, always apologizing for America's horrible acts and always kicking anyone who used to be our friends.
Mr. Carter is very famous for his iireverent brother who also tried so d3esperately to grab attention at every opportunity. I remember wheile Jimmy was president, his brother got off the airplane and with the cameras rolling, urinated next to the steps leading down from the airplane.
The two are crass, rude, and anti social. Jimmy hates this country even more than Ahmedinejad.
His talk about womernis a smokescreen to hide his shame for having ruined his own reputation. - 2 years ago
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JonRaymond
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Abraham99:
Oh my God! Communists! Aren't they the ones who wanted to rule the world by taking over one country after another? Oh no. That was the U.S.
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davesarush
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Abraham99:
Did ya hear that from Rush or Hannity?
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davesarush
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wirehedd
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Abraham99:
so speaketh the McCarthyist wing of the nutbag collective.
Gotta look out fer them thar commies ya know.
LOL@U!!!!!!!
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wirehedd
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Future_America
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Jimmy Carter also fought very hard for the Equal Rights Amendment and won an unprecedented 3 year extension on the amendment. He's such a great guy.
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Betico
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I heart Jimmy Carter.
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Betico
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randallr01
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One of the hundreds of reasons I left Church behind as well...
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2helenahandbasket
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I guess this is a good thing, although Jimmy Carter lost me a long time ago with his leftist and wacky views.
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kennymotown
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And this is the same Jimmy Carter that told the country over thirty years ago we needed to get off foreign oil and did something about. To bad dumb ass Reagan's first action was to take the solar collectors off the white house roof. Can you imagine as a country how better off we would be now if we had of listen to President Carter.
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kennymotown
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bluestranger
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Kudos on Jimmy. We need more influential people to speak out against the male dominated religions (all) in the world.
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bluestranger
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Britney Spears left same church for same reason
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masterzip
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masterzip:
lmao
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cmdinc
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JohnA
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And yet he wants to make friends with the Palistinians. Strange.
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JohnA
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Abraham99
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JohnA:
That's his whole point. He succeeded. You were supposed to wonder how he could be in favor of women, if he is in the oil sheiks pockets.
His diversion worked.
Now he has a few hundred thousand people talking about him and women's rights and not about the truth which is, the Arabs own him lock,stock and barrel and he also hates our country. yes, a former president who hates this country. - 2 years ago
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Abraham99
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Poor Jimmy Carter. he done got himself a lowlife reputation because of all the money he's been smilingly taking from the Saudis. He keeps being ridiculed and criticized because Arab oil has been stuffing his pockets.
So, now, he comes up with this 83 year old man's version of how to confuse and confound the public. So he starts a news conference talking about the treatment of women. Immature attempt to obfuscate Jimmy, you anti American faker.
Yo, Jimmy.
Your sudden interest in women's rights will not make Americans forget that you are owned completely and fully by Arab oil money. It's not the Arabs' fault. They are to be expected to promote their interests. But it IS your fault. You're supposed to have some dignity and integrity, and now we see that you have neither.Washed up Carter can no longer wash up.
He done been washed up.
Bye bye Jimmy the Commie Carter.
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Kylsport
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I thought he left long ago. His actions and wrong decisions he made against Israel long ago led me to believe he wasn't a follower of Christ. You cannot deny that he isn't a friend of Israel.
"I will bless those who bless Israel and I will curse those who act against." NLT
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Kylsport
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jubal
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Kylsport:
Oh pooh on your NLT.
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jubal
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Kylsport:
OMG, at first glance, I thought your response was an email from my GF, whenever she is surprised or taken back by something she says 'oh pooh', in this little voice. I thought it was cute coming from you, when I envisioned you saying the same thing.
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cabinettags
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Carter strikes me as being the same as most everyone else; some good points - some not so good. President peanut has been more effective since he left office than he was in it.
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cabinettags
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Apocalipstick
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Good.
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Apocalipstick
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bombastinator
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it's dead jim.
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akamaial [removed]
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Is this the same ex-POTUS who is a champion of Hamas/Palestinian ''human rights''...? ... You know, those poor deprived Muslim human beings that treat their women like dogs and train their children to be terrorists?
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Kylsport
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akamaial:
Uh Huhllo Jimmy...thank you
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akamaial:
At the risk of going completely off topic, why does the fact that most Palestinians practice Islam deny them basic human rights? Even if they happen to be a part of a sect that subjugates women? If we denied racist people human rights, a large part of the world wouldn't qualify. No one is perfect, and some people are worse than others, but the beauty of human rights is that they apply to everyone.
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akamaial:
Yes this would be the same one that is against all human rights abuse. Did you read the whole article? He spoke against all religions that subjugate women. This covers all of the major religions of the world.
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bluestranger
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akamaial:
this is what happens when bigots post on current.
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akamaial:
Wow! I'm sure that bigoted stereotype you rattled off is fully accurate when speaking about ALL middle eastern people, including the ones I know personally who don't fit it!
From my experiences with actual people, I had assumed that I had a good idea of how the world was.
Then you came along and dropped that stereotype! Now I see clearly the errors of my judgment.
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asherp
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akamaial:
Your racism is showing again. You can't distinguish between all Muslim people and those who practice fundamentalism.
Can you tell the difference between yourself and a clansman? I certainly can't.
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akamaial:
I have personally stood next to the man swinging hammers to build a H4H home inDaytona Bch, fl. this man has done more to improve the human condition in one day than you will in your whole life, sitting at your computer spouting insults and complaints, not once offering a solution or a hand
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davesarush
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current89
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Good for him, he truly has a heart of gold.
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current89:
Not so fast-- you should hear the vile things he has to say about Ralph Nader.
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