Brian Aitken Faces 7 Years In Prison For Owning A Gun Legally/Lost Custody Of Son

No Victim, No Crime.

No Victim, No Crime.

thats right No Victim, No Crime.

unimatrix0 Where is the injured party?

where is the injured party. in order for there to be a crime there has to be an injured party, where is the injured party?

no victim no crime any one that cant recognize that there has to be a victim (an injured party) for a crime to have been committed is a numskull

no victim no crime

unimtrix will not answer it cant it does not have the mental capacity to think. All it does is spout what its master tells it to say. Its part of the Obama Collective.

get full information first please, then maybe air time. If I was to go to air with this I wouldn't do it without both the police report and the court minutes. There is critical information missing.

He broke the law, now he is in jail. Pretty simple.

oh, really, you mean like how you break the law smoking pot, unimatrix? you're always so contradictory, but that's very, very characteristic of your type of blinders-wearing ultra liberal. I vote liberal and you make me embarrassed of the party.

Additionally, unlike unimatrix according to her posts regarding pot, he didn't break the law.

NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!

No Victim, No Crime.

you are correct if there is NO VICTIM how can there be a CRIME?

unimatrix0 where is the injured party?

no victim no crime

depends. the account seems edited to me. Time will tell. This is what court is for.

Indeed, this is for the courts. Hopefully sanity and fairness prevail.

I hear ya guys. But Mr. Aitken has already been found guilty. Even though he's not been convicted yet a judge has already removed his visitation rights with his kid. He gets to see him 1 hr a week in the presence of a police officer.

This is supposed to work where you're innocent until proven guilty. That hasn't happened yet, but he's already suffering consequences. And the reason the judge gave for this was violence - although there was no violence involved - this is a weapons charge.

I don't disagree with you; but I stand by what I said. He's being rail-roaded.

makes me wonder what was gone over at the trial. Even whether it was a jury trial or not would say a lot.

I looked around on the internet, and while the results I found are obviously not definitive, it seems that New Jersey is one of the few states that bans HP bullets. I know for certain they are legal here in Texas. I believe they are legal in Colorado where it appears he bought them.

According to the news article, the police responded to a "verbal dispute," which can mean a plethora of different things and is pretty extreme grounds for removing a child from his care. Also, the main link implies that the order to remove his son from his custody stems from the firearm possession, not the "verbal dispute."

Hopefully for his sake there's a transcript of his conversations with the police about his guns.

Even if one assumes that the Brian Aitken in the Bebo account is the same in the article, his "claim" of being an alcoholic sounds pretty tongue-in-cheek to me and shouldn't be used to form any sort of judgement on his character.

@freecorbinj Fair points.

It's all supposition till someone can dig up the police report. I could easily see him asking about the guns but not the bullets. 7 years is a lot for that though. Generally courts in heavily populated urban centers have wildly over populated penal systems and don't hand out big jail time without a reason. What that reason was is another question we have no answers for.

she does it almost constantly actually. She's really really big on freedom of religion, gay rights and separation of church and state. I suspect you agree on more than you disagree on.

I expose the cult of ron paul to be lunatic fanatics and it pisses shanklinmike off, so he resorts to personal attacks.

Just stating a fact.

peace

Cult of Ron Paul, cult of Obama. Yeaahhhh. Well at least my guy is actually doing something "HOW ABOUT THAT PROP-8?" "HOW ABOUT THAT LEGAL POT?" Looks like your guy doesn't give two craps about the people that elected him. All the things he promised, must be a big let down? It's funny to think that now we have another Republican in the office, and everyone thought he was a liberal dem. lol.

yeah. He's done that to me too.

He hasn't posted any Ron Paul advertising idiocy in days though and he has started including actual article links instead of trying to force you to access his pet website even though he's still putting them as the main link which is annoying. I remain hopeful however.

I actually stand up for him (shanklinmike) to be free to post the ron paul spam, as long as he doesn't dump it on threads that have nothing to do with ron paul.

@evolelon um... you realize you are proving Unimatrix's point there...

whereas i find it abusive and sleazy. See.. You're even more for individual rights than I am. hehehehe

NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!

NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!

No Victim, No Crime.

No Victim, No Crime.

Thats correct if there is no victim how can there be a crime?

no victim no crime

I agree no victim no crime

I agree if there is no victim how can there be a crime? There cant.

no victim no crime

scroll down and read the real account, the peaceprosperity account is a misleading deception.

NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!

No Victim, No Crime.

no victim no crime

no victim here so why is it a crime?

You have to be kidding

No it's not up to us to get right with the government, fuck the government.

the argument is that he did not in fact break the law as far as the firearms charge is concerned. If this is in fact the case then the cops are in trouble and even then it does not explain why they are prosecuting so fiercely.

I did find some additional stuff though which may explain why the cops were being hard asses about the whole thing.
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/news/bct/tag/brian-d-aitken/

this person always has nothing to say that is smart or enlightening about the reality of guns. ultra-liberal ignorant nazi, and she teaches kids to boot.

Actually, if you had paid attention or done some research you'd realize that Aitken DID indeed have all his ducks lined up with the state government; he checked with them to make sure he followed the state of NJ legal process for transferring firearms from an old residence to a new one. They have no grounds. You're grasping at straws.

NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!

No Victim, No Crime.

I agree if there is no victim there is no crime

2nd amendment right to bear arms

no victim no crime

i agree no victim no crime