Community | July 30, 2009 | 53 comments

450,000 Doctors Can't Be Wrong

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That's right, 450,000 doctors signed on to this ONE campaign urging health care reform. The video is a no-frills face to face with just a few of these doctors.

I just made the call the Congress making my voice heard, and I'm hoping anyone who sees this on Current does the same. Call Congress now: (202) 224-3121.
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  • Idiolect
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      Idiolect  
    • If you are not convinced that we need to fix health care or if you want to help convince others, watch this video from Brave New Films. I can't believe the majority of Americans are succumbing to the bs from the insurance companies. The arguments for single payer or a public option are extremely convincing. If your representative is not supporting single payer or a public option tell him or her that you WILL VOTE for him/her ONLY if he/she does.

    • 2 years ago
  • Jadiee
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      Jadiee  
    • people are so scared of the government adding a healthcare option. I don't have health care. My job doesn't offer it, I don't make enough money to get something else, my family doesn't make enough money to cover themselves, let alone work to cover me.

      I can't begin to say how often I should have gone to a doctor and didn't go because I couldn't afford it. I haven't seen a doctor since I was 12.

      Everyone's complaining about the government putting their hands into this issue but someone like me, who has NOTHING would really appreciate an option that means if my health goes sour and I cannot take care of it myself, I actually might be able to go somewhere and get the help I'd need for it.

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • Jadiee:

      While I personally want you and your family to be able to get health care when you need it, I know that your plea is falling on deaf ears to many on this site. Unless you make enough to afford private insurance, they see you as undeserving of medical care. I truly hope that you can find peace of mind in the next few months when the reform takes place. Until then, I sincerely wish you and your family the best of luck.

    • 2 years ago
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • I have one question for all those who support this...

      DO YOU TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENOUGH TO HAND OVER YOUR HEALTH CARE..

      i dont give a shit if its obama or bush or santa clause is selling this..i do not want to the federal government running something so crucial to us..this is not a driver's license ..this is about our medical care..

      the same entity that fucked up New Orleans..katrina...is going to run the system so when you get sick..you get..................ahhh waht happened to New orleans again?????????????????/

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      I would not support this if what you say is true. Luckily, very little truth (if any) comes from you.

      This is not a govt takeover of hospitals. This is an option for those who do not have an option under the status quo. I can guarantee you that anything the govt offers in the way of a public option insurance will be better than having none.

    • 2 years ago
  • chasingame
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      chasingame  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      So you would rather trust the big insurance industry? Kind of foolish. It's not going to be Clinton and Obama standing over you with a scalpel. It is going to be the same Dr. that it is now. I just can't understand why some people are so happy to prop up a multi billion dollar insurance industry on top of their own health care costs. Maybe you can enlighten me on that?

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      i guess one day you guys call it facist and one day you trust it enough to run your medical affairs..

      are you guys agreeing because obama is a liberal or you guys are agreeing because you had placed some thought on this?????????????

      you know i am sensing no difference here between a liberal and a conservative...both has its own gospel and its own Jesus

    • 2 years ago
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      if Obama is a liberal
      why isn't pot Legal
      and why do we still
      have don't ask don't
      he's not having any regulation
      on guns and week regulation on the Banks
      wiretapping is still going
      on he's hiding photos from abu-grab.

    • 2 years ago
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      about New Orleans
      they messed up because Bush got rid of an experienced FEMA director with
      one of his campaign manager
      for the 2000 campaign and he quit when't to
      halaburten so he gave his friend
      the horse lower a job A.K.A Michelle
      Brown you know you the guy Bush said was doing a heck of job well Obama didn't put a horse lower in charge of FEMA. you Consevative don't make sense
      you trust the government to fight
      war's with every country in the world
      but you don't trust a government healthcare plan.

    • 2 years ago
  • JMPxx85
  • thefatbear
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      thefatbear  
    • Thank god we have people to do our thinking for us... especially doctors because they're all so much smarter than us. Maybe we should also get 450,000 lawyers on board as well. I think we already have well above 450,000 babbling idiots (450,001 if you include this poster), so that pretty much includes all of the groups we should be seeking opinions from. Whatever you do: do NOT think for yourself and absolutely do NOT read the bill. That's ludicrous. Why bother thinking when someone else can do it for you. Then, the hard part is over, and all you have to do is memorize the right answers. At least that's what I learned in the public school system.

      Unfortunately, I read the bill. (In my defense it was before I found this video to tell me what I should think.) An interesting note in the bill (that's curiously left out of almost every debate I've seen) is the tax penalty that the IRS will levy against you if you can't afford to purchase a health insurance plan and don't qualify for a subsidy. But... you already know about that because the person who's opinion you swallowed told you that.

      It really comes down to this: you shouldn't have the right to decide how to spend your hard-earned money and only the government can make decisions that are in your best interest. Ideally our paychecks should go directly to the government where they can do our weekly shopping for us, rent wholesome family movies for us to watch, wipe our ass and chins, take us out to a reasonably priced restaurant now and again, tuck us into bed at night, and sing us sweet lullabies... oh, and most importantly, fight those evil-doing terrorists and provide us health care.

      Anything contrary to that opinion is absolutely false and treasonous... and you should ask yourself: "why do I hate America so much?"

    • 2 years ago
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • thefatbear:

      im sorrey but your not
      doctor these doctors are in the health
      care system how could they wrong
      it's there opinion it's there experience
      you can think for yourself but what about
      facts and there are people that earn plenty
      of money and still cant afford health care
      they do every thing for them self and
      still cant pay for health care it's stupid
      to say people can't afford some thing because
      there lazy there are people that work hard
      and are still poor.

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • thefatbear:

      Do you honestly think that you are the first person to bring up the issue of the tax penalty? I heard about it from Obama himself months ago. What a self-inflated ego you must have. Perhaps I should school you on this issue

      If you make below $43,000 and you choose to go with the public option, there is a sliding scale of credits on your monthly premiums going from $1 - $43,000 so everyone who has an income can afford health care. If you choose not to participate in the public option, and you do not have private insurance, you will be fined $1,000. These are the same people who would come to an emergency room if they were injured or sick, and they would cost the taxpayers for their medical treatment.

      When it comes to rights on how you spend your money, you overestimate your current abilities. You pay for public schools, police, fire dept, and a host of other socialized programs deemed important for all Americans. I pay my taxes, and therefore I pay for nuclear warheads, although I do not approve of it.

      So save your rhetoric, and next time, really read the bill. Don't just paraphrase a paragraph and act like an expert.

    • 2 years ago
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • i don't know federal government
      seems to be doing okay running the military and
      just fine running the school system
      i guess we should get rid of public school
      they are socialist programs that hurt
      the free market privates schools
      right and fire men and police are socialist because
      they work for government and those horrible
      oppressive public library's and there socialist
      agenda and we have Communist national parks
      oh make it stop LOL :D

    • 2 years ago
  • GodsnLiberals
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • macfan:

      Obama doesn't have to take care
      of any body he just needs to make
      healthcare affordable a i'am
      not devote to Obama i can
      criticize Obama what
      i don't like about Obama
      is the wiretapping and he has
      not kept his promise when
      comes to transparntcy.

    • 2 years ago
  • maddogger
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      maddogger  
    • The "death by a thousand delays" that the Republicans and Blue Dogs in Congress is attempting is a huge disservice to the American people. It is fiscally irresponsible and immoral. If they think health care coverage is so easy to get I suggest they voluntarily surrender the gold-plated coverage they and their families receive FROM THE GOVERNMENT BY THE WAY, and take their chances on the open, "free" market.

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • If these chodes won't listen to climatologists on issues of climate, why do we think they will listen to doctors on issues of health care?

    • 2 years ago
  • slowdive
  • thefatbear
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • WakeUpPeople:

      Your comparison of health insurance to car insurance is beyond weak. Find a better argument. When is the last time you had to fight with your car insurance company to pay for your a $100,000 alternator replacement?

    • 2 years ago
  • TheEmpireGuy
  • brit50
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      brit50  
    • Complete healthcare reform will never work. But, people ask me "If u don't support complete reform, what do you plan to do." Its simple, only catastrophic healthcare coverage. There is no need to cover everyone for every doctors visit, dental visit, etc. Most people can afford those things. Most people have insurance to cover them if some very bad accident occured, and they could not afford the costs. In my opinion this system would save a lot of capital, while not reducing competition.

    • 2 years ago
  • csmonut
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      csmonut  
    • I did the email thing.

      Too many people in this country go without ANY health care until they're on their death bed...and even then they're damn lucky if they live.
      And another thing...people have a helluva time doing preventive health care when they can't afford to even talk to a doctor about it, let alone follow through.

      That this will create soaring costs is a laugh...like a 435% increase in health care costs over the last decade is small.....get real.

    • 2 years ago
  • mlamb88
  • slowdive
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      slowdive  
    • mlamb88:

      I value medical doctors opinions much more than politicians or the average troll online. These are the people dealing with the current health care system on a daily basis.

      The significance of hundreds of thousands of medical doctors urging reform of our health care system cannot be denied.

    • 2 years ago
  • ILikeHamburgers
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • its an ideal plan.. a universal healthplan is a dream..the problem most of you naive people do not understand is that the entity that you are going to entrust to run this dream is the most incompetent organization when it comes to running things...

      the federal government...honestly..think about it..what do you guys think about the federal government a few years ago?? do you really think it had changed at all???

      the federal government is NOT FIT and RELIABLE enough to run this...

    • 2 years ago
  • Sumbodyswatchin
  • MissAmanda
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      MissAmanda  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      i agree. i feel like it's too good to be done the way the government says it's going to work out...

      there are always darker, hidden and secret motives and intentions when it comes to the government, and that's fact.

      im too afraid of them to be able to support the government controlling my health/existance in such a total way...

    • 2 years ago
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      i don't know federal government
      seems to be doing okay running the military and
      just fine running the school system
      i guess we should get rid of public school
      they are socialist programs that hurt
      the free market privates schools
      right and fire men and police are socialist because
      they work for government and those horrible
      oppressive public library's and there socialist
      agenda and we have Communist national parks
      oh make it stop LOL :D maybe you should think some more

    • 2 years ago
  • thecoyote23
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      thecoyote23  
    • The Neocons want to keep things exactly as they are and will block any attempt at reform. The people they work for are making trillions off of healthcare. Around 17% of USA's GDP goes to healthcare. Its appalling when the Neocons say that healthcare reform is going to hurt the country, because their way has been bankrupting the country for years and years. Lets not forget that it was W who expanded medicaid while cutting taxes and bankrupting our government, and thus putting us into more and more debt with China. Healthcare is a case that requires some leftist style economics. The government should step in and tell pharmaceutical companies that its not OK to charge $200 for a single pill, when their profits are soaring and soaring, meanwhile that same pill costs $2 in the UK.

    • 2 years ago
  • sespian
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      sespian  
    • thecoyote23:

      The reason you can't get that $2 pill over here is because of the monopolist regulation that lobbyist have so effectively persuaded the FDA and other government agencies to put into place.

      These are the same agencies that are supposedly going to run a universal health care program? No thanks!

    • 2 years ago
  • Sumbodyswatchin
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      Sumbodyswatchin  
    • its not a matter of right ir wrong, it depends on whose buying more senators and congressmen. healthcare indusries are spending 1.4 million a DAY to stop reform. And the RNC has approve spending some odd millions to run commercials telling of the evils of reform and how everything is great the way it is. Unless we start putting people in office who really represent the people that voted for them, it's never going to be of, by and for the people, just the disgustingly wealthy

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • I have a great idea, why don't we have government takeover production of food and airplanes and housing and everything else! That way, we can all have lots of good stuff with no work! The government can just do all this magic and then we won't have to worry anymore! We should just have government take care of the meadows and the snow and they can give everyone free healthcare at no cost and with no shortages and with no discrimination and with no restrictions or red tape.....

      Sorry, not going to happen people. All you are doing is pushing healthcare costs higher just like the last 60 years of this fascist-tinged economic system we are living under. REAL change is to stop this big government/big corporation medical industrial complex! People are fooled if they believe that trumping the 10th Amendment and trumping the more efficient state spending will lead to long-run susutainability. It is a fable of the ages, nothing more or less. Government will only create more shortages, force us into their oligopolized insurance carriers, and will hide costs while pushing out private healthcare market share and decreasing incentives for new drugs. The future of healthcare depends on personal choice, privacy rights, and a decentralization away from coercive and forceful systems that create higher entries to the market. The government has driven the cost of healthcare up, not a freer market. Anybody who tells you we live in a free market should be ignored and discredited.

    • 2 years ago
  • strive4peace
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      strive4peace  
    • shanklinmike:

      if people would raise their awareness of what is really healthy for them, lifestyle wise, then there would be a huge drop in visits to the doctor in the first case. I don't think it is fair for some people to have better health care than others just because they have more money... once again humanity is trying to fix a problem on the surface when the truth lies at the roots.

    • 2 years ago
  • nhavey
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      nhavey  
    • shanklinmike:

      My friends, if you look closely you will see a beautiful specimen of an ideologue. You can tell by his colorful rhetorical flourishes and his complete detachment from reality. See his blinders? Be careful not to let him know that you see through his unfounded, reactionary, overheated fear mongering or he may become angry as his world view is threatened.

      Best to leave him alone and not remind him that the American health care system is far and away the most expensive system in the world. He'd be sure to reply that it is due to the quality, and that we should pay that much. He probably wouldn't take the time to read a very informative article that addresses some of the perverse incentives in the system as it is: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande. Nor would he be willing to consider that 47 million uninsured Americans is an affront to what America stands for, not to mention evidence of a market failure.

      He would reply that surely the CEO's of the big health insurance firms deserve their multi-million dollar salaries even as they chose to end the lives and livelihoods of thousands by arbitrarily changing doctors and systematically fighting to deny coverage. It is just the cold calculus of capitalism, and the free market must not be impeded.

      Don't even try reminding him that the father of free market economics Adam Smith actually prescribed a robust role for government in a free market economy. Even though Smith said such a role was necessary to keep capitalism within the bounds of human decency, it will do no good to mention it. For the ideologue accepts only what supports what he is already sure of, and disregards the rest.

      Now you and I know that we don't have all of the answers. We are interested in looking into the issue and are open to learning something new and compromising on what we believe will work. After all, the point in this video is that 450,000 doctors are calling for reform. Can anyone argue that the system is not broken? If we can agree on that, maybe we can have a rational exchange of ideas about how best to fix it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Jenkins
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      Jenkins  
    • shanklinmike:

      The problem is; you're treating healthcare like another way to make money. Lifesaving surgeries shouldn't be priced to where the company giving the surgery can maximize profits. At some point you have to realize that the prices demanded are too high and many people are going to die because of it.

    • 2 years ago
  • brit50
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      brit50  
    • shanklinmike:

      Striveforpeace - you sound like a marxist. We do not live in a socialist, Soviet style country (yet). We live in a free market, capitalistic society. There are rich and poor. It is completely fair that people that have worked hard, and have some more money be able to have better coverage if they decide they want to spend THEIR money that THEY have earned. THEIR money is not everyones money. Even under Universal Healthcare congressman, and presidents, etc. will have an elite coverage system that will be much better than what the average person will be under.

    • 2 years ago
  • Spet67
  • macfan
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      macfan  
    • shanklinmike:

      maybe we should un do
      government take over
      of the school system yeah
      those kids and parents
      should pic theme self's by there
      boot straps and stop depending
      on government to teach there kid's.

    • 2 years ago
  • macfan
  • MirrorLake
  • GodsnLiberals
  • MirrorLake
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      MirrorLake  
    • MirrorLake:

      No matter what, we the people need to pay medical bills. No matter what. We're all going to get sick eventually and most of us will have accidents that will require expensive medical care.

      Why not divide the cost up between all of us?

    • 2 years ago
  • dlar10
  • GodsnLiberals
  • macfan
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      macfan  
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    • dlar10:

      funny it dosen't look like it could get worse

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      3 San Marino
      4 Andorra
      5 Malta
      6 Singapore
      7 Spain
      8 Oman
      9 Austria
      10 Japan
      11 Norway
      12 Portugal
      13 Monaco
      14 Greece
      15 Iceland
      16 Luxembourg
      17 Netherlands
      18 United Kingdom
      19 Ireland
      20 Switzerland
      21 Belgium
      22 Colombia
      23 Sweden
      24 Cyprus
      25 Germany
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      30 Canada
      31 Finland
      32 Australia
      33 Chile
      34 Denmark
      35 Dominica
      36 Costa Rica
      37 United States of America
      38 Slovenia
      39 Cuba
      40 Brunei

    • 2 years ago
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