Do you have the Right to Die?
source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203622/Ill-die-endgame-says-Terry-Pratchett-law-all...
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The author of the hugely popular Discworld novels, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 2007, writes in today's Mail on Sunday: 'I intend, before the endgame looms, to die sitting in a chair in my own garden with a glass of brandy in my hand and Thomas Tallis on the iPod.
'Thomas's music could lift even an atheist a little bit closer to Heaven.'
Sir Terry says that 'right-to-die' campaigners trying to change the law on suicide are acting with 'furious sanity'.
He calls for the creation of special tribunals run by coroners to establish that terminally ill patients who request assisted deaths are acting voluntarily.
On Thursday, multiple sclerosis patient Debbie Purdy won a Law Lords ruling forcing the Government's lawyers to clarify when charges will be brought in 'right-to-die' cases.
Ms Purdy, 46, went to court to make sure that her husband could travel with her to the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland without fear of prosecution. More than 100 people have travelled from Britain to the controversial clinic.
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There is a TON more at the link, including many personal stories. What do you think about "assisted suicide"?
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krush_productions
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Bottom Line: My body, My decision.
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If you don't want to off yourself don't do it . If that is what I want , do not expect your opinion to stop me . What is with people who feel so entitled to tell the rest of us how to live or die if need be ? I will be the judge of what is best for me . As long as my brain is working .
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How selfish of some people on this thread... you clearly don't understand that it's NOT ABOUT US. It's about the people who are dying right now. The people who are living through pain unimaginable to you and me. The people for whom a normal life will never exist again.
But, no, keep getting caught up in your fear of death.
Let's ignore their pain and suffering, and their understanding that the future only holds death - the only difference is they can prolong their suffering, or they can die with dignity.
But, no, let's keep pretending we know what's good for them.
Let's keep believing that it'll never happen to us.
Let's remain afraid to look death in the eye and accept that we, too, will one day face it.
Maybe we'll be lucky and we will go down with a fight, or we'll go smiling, or we'll go with the understanding that we've lived as much as we can.
Why do we have to be ignorant of pain? Death?
Don't forget, it's NOT ABOUT US.
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div:
I live in pain every day It only gets worst as time goes by . Unless you can say the same I see no sence In you commenting
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div:
I don't think you understood my post. I'm not against assisted suicide. And you said precisely what I said in my post - that we don't have the right to speak for people in pain if we're not in pain.
Perhaps you should read it again.
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I recently heard this statement by a government official "Sometimes we [the government] need to protect you from yourself". I find this statement absurd. My life, my choice, my dignity. In my opinion there should be no question. Also, I noticed most of the comments are in support of the right to make decision to end own life. Why is our government not hearing this? We The People.
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in the absence of resources to maintain dignity..a person should have the right to terminate his life..
a young man having a hissy fit and thinking that he wants the right to die..should be kicked in the ass hard enough to wake up from that bullshit
enjoy life while you can
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GodsnLiberals:
Precisely.
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GodsnLiberals:
I agree with that, it shouldn't be a choice as simple as "I wanna die, kill me now please."
I say the procedure would need ot be verified with the doctor to prove that the illness or injury he has is terminal/unable to recover from and causes extreme, unlivable pain and torment.
Then the patient would need to be seen by a psychiatrist to ensure that they are in a correct mental state to be making that decision.
Then they should be allowed to do it.
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Saladin
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bailey78
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I always thought I did. Why must i be forced to live if I am that sick? Why do I not have the right to do what is best for me? I do not want to be a burden upon my family.
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if my mother wanted me to give her extra pain medicaltion I would gladly do it without any second thought. My mother has cancer and if the time ever comes I would do it. And i'm an RN I can't do it for a PT. it's agianst the code of ethics Do no harm. But if my mom said to I would ,I would lose my licence for it.There should be a right to die with dignity and without pain.Has anybody seen the movie They Shoot Horses Don't They with Jane Fonda,it's a great movie.
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i think this is way different than a DNR order..its like actual suicide..but i guess if someone really wants to die that's their.still what if they aren't clinically sane at the time they want to die? what then?
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freedom765:
DNR is a choice a choice and I beleive we have a choice the way I die and the way we live and the way we treat our own bodys.
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So it's Gods will for your family member to die in terrible pain. What kind of God is that!
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this is still suicide..i have been with my dad ,my grandparents when they were dying and its hard to see your love one suffer...but no matter what suicide is not the answer ,and its not GODS will....
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cindydupree:
It looks like gawd has forsaken you!~
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cindydupree:
How do you know what god's will is?
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cindydupree:
So if someone very close to you was DYING in sever PAIN and had no real hope of survival, you'd keep that person alive for your selfishness? And I call it selfishness because you would only do it to sooth your fears of death.
I can't believe that you think your God would want people to suffer horrendously before they died.
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cindydupree:
The christian delusion is thick with this one...
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maof4brats [removed]
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Why is this going into the subject of abortion, two different things.Totaly!
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I don't know if all states have them but in Cali. you have a document called an advanced directive it give permission to lets just say pull the plug if you are brain dead. and what YOU want with how you die. I think every state should have it. I have a DNR do not resusitate if i am brain dead. But I said they have to make sure I have an EEG to make sure!
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Can anyone even give a good reason as to why you shouldn't have the right to die?
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TheEmpireGuy:
a person who have a very good reason to do so...
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Yeah this is kind of a no-brainer.
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Some of us in America accept abortion as an OK thing, a personal choice. I am totally pro-life when it comes to abortion because one of the people in an abortion situation doesn't get a vote as to what happens to his/her life.
When it comes to suicide, I'm firmly pro-choice, as I believe if someone wants to do away with themselves, and only themselves, it should be their choice. I don't think it should be up to the rest of us to tell someone they have to continue to live in circumstances that are intolerable to them.
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2helenahandbasket:
Completely agreeable.
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2helenahandbasket:
A fetus... Isn't alive?
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2helenahandbasket:
@Valence: "A fetus... Isn't alive?" Are you asking me, or telling? I firmly believe a fetus is not only alive, it's a baby.
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2helenahandbasket:
It is Ok! Not all of us beleive in what you do. And this is about an adult right to die not abortion.
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2helenahandbasket:
@maof4brats: Calm down! I'm allowed to say what I think, and I know what the thread is about.
My whole point is, if people think abortion is OK why would they balk at suicide?
And you have my permission to believe anything you want.
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I am an RN working hospice care, there have been times where the PT. is not getting enough morphine and in a great deal of pain we are waiting for either the Dr. or insurance company to OK the dosage increase and they ask me and the family ask me to give more. Somtimes more means death and I know it. Most of the time the Dr. doesn't Ok it and the PT. is moaning and crying. Why is it when a animal gets sick or hurt we have no problem giving them a shot and they just stop breathing peacefull!We don't need an act of legestlature to alllow the dying the right to Peace.Most deaths I have seen are a peacefull one but there has been sometimes that I wouldn't mind to give that little more and they go to sleep,and out of pain.
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We have had asisted suicide, or death with dignity, in Oregon for a long time. It is no big deal, very few use it. Yet it is nice to know it is there.
Sad that religious freaks have prevented individual autonomy in the past. No more.
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We're not talking about people who hate their lives, that cut themselves and can recieve help, or people who have so much more life to live. These are terminally ill paitients, who are weighed down by death which looms on their backs.
If they feel it is their time to go, why do we selfishly hold them back? Because we want more time with them, while they suffer? Because we can't let go of their life even though they have already come to terms with it? - 2 years ago
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UncleCharlie thinks that if you have an untreatable, terminal illness whose pain is comparable to being fully submerged in boiling oil that it's "self-worship" to ask to die instead of live for another 14 hours in unbearable pain.
Of course, he only thinks this up until he would have to deal with it, then he'd flip a 180 like any of the other hypocritical retards that don't support euthanasia for a pseudo-religious reason.
If you don't have rights over your own damn life, you don't have rights at all.
You HAVE the right to die, any other suggestion is completely stupid.
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When someone wishes to do, they shouldn't be forced to starve themselves.
Refusing food and drink is a much more painful way to die that an overdose of morphine, surrounded by those you love. If you're really determined and have a good health care proxy, you can do it if you're old.
How is it a "worship" of self when you want to chose a death of dignity over a death of slowly losing yourself in a world of pain, shame, and suffering? What does society lose by a person ending their own life when they are in their right mind and feel its value is less than the effort of maintaining it?
My body, my life, my choice to die. Your body, your life, your choice to live.
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The worship of self. Sad. When doctors are forced to become killers, we are a much poorer society.
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unclecharlie:
I doubt a doctor would be forced to kill.
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unclecharlie:
Where does the "worship of self" come into this issue?
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unclecharlie:
Again, charlie, get off of your kool-aid..!~
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unclecharlie:
Nobody forces anyone.
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unclecharlie:
Are you off your rocker old man? death is a blessing for some.
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I am all for death with dignity. I as a human being have the right to choose how I am personaly going to leave this world.
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