Orlando man accused of raping dog to death

Agreed. Interesting how those that aren't willing to acknowledge their own faults are the quickest to condemn.

Nobody fucks the chickens.

We view dogs as man's best friend and seeing someone do such a hideous thing to a creature we value for loyalty and honesty makes us feel sick from the pit of our guts. If we viewed chickens as special animals, then we would be appalled at the way we treat them and have a different view.

"Nobody fucks the chickens."

I'm sorry to say that is not so...

@Ronen,

There's a huge difference between nourishing oneself - something we need to do to survive, and raping a dog to death - something I'm guessing one would only do for 'pleasure'.

You can't just lump both of them together as if they are one in the same just because their end results are identical.

@bishopobispo

I do not condemn eating animals: a very natural occurrence. But I do condemn their treatment before and during their slaughter. The conditions the animals suffer are irrelevant to nourishing ourselves. We could treat them remotely humanely and then eat them. But because the food industry wants to squeeze as much money out of them as possible and we want to spend as little money as possible on the food - so we can spend more on "pleasure" - we let torturing animals slide.

One guy gets horny and torture's a dog - everyone's fuming. A bunch of businessmen get greedy and torture millions of animals - no one cares.

I guess your point is: this guy didn't have to do what he did, we have to eat the meat in the grocery store. But we don't have to let them be treated as disturbingly as they are. Not even close. If people had as much rage against the monsters that run the meat industry as they do against this guy I think things would be very different.

Bishop, obviously you can nourish yourself without the use of animals, so how is that relevant? Eating animals may have played a pivotal role in human survival at some point, but so was warfare. Now both are totally superfluous and one participates in both at one's own discretion. Eating meat for you is an elective pursuit. You do it for no other reason than to derive pleasure from it.

Nettle, there's an undercover slaughterhouse video somewhere of one of the workers blithely finger fucking a chicken.

Also, are you saying that something is morally acceptable as long as it falls within the confines of what a given culture deems appropriate?

@Ronen,

Yeah, I can see where you are coming from. They're gonna die but we don't have to treat them horribly in the process.

It's as easy as that no?

Nonetheless, I think it is a very overblown comparison to equate raising live stock with sexually abusing an animal.

At least with the former example there is a positive outcome because of the animal's suffering (i.e. we get to eat). As for the latter (aka fucking a dog), what good comes of it?

@numinant

It's relevant because I run 7 kilometers day and exercise another two on top of that. Not to mention I weigh 240 pounds and I'm 6'6" tall (which isn't fat in case you were wondering).

I eat and drink products derived from animals because I need protein for my body to recover after returning from the gym... and yes, I need a lot of it.

Pleasure... trust me. There's no pleasure in those bland cans of tuna I down twice a day. And also, I'd much rather eat a cheese pizza over eating boiled eggs every single day. Necessity is the reason.

As for you last point, 'no'.

There are a plethora of vegan athletes and body builders. You can easily obtain enough protein on a vegan diet.

And something good did come out of raping that dog, from his perspective. An orgasm.

But let's say he ate the carcass once he was finished raping it. Then that would have justified the process just the same as that found in industrial farming, no? He would have derived precious protein and nutrients from it, and who can blame a guy for that?

@numinant

Well might I suggest you hit the gym and get back to me and tell me how that vegan body building session worked out.

And as for your point about consuming a post raped dog carcass, we're on two totally different pages here.

As vile as you think it is, there is a purpose behind keeping these animals in cages and pumping them up on steroids - it allows distributors to more efficiently produce more of a product for consumers to buy.

I'm not quite sure how you think animal sex fits into that equation.

Whether you're consuming or selling animal flesh, you're doing it for one reason, self-gratification, consideration for the feelings of the actual animals to whom the flesh belongs be damned.

I'm not a body builder, but I get ample protein without the slightest effort. I'm not sure where you got the idea that it's difficult to obtain adequate protein from a vegetarian diet, but it's false. Ever look at a horse? Where do you think they get the protein for all their muscle mass?

@numinant

One reason? Self-gratification? Well, I guess that would make sense if self-gratification dealt with 'necessity' instead of what it's really used for - desire.

And because eating is crucial to staying alive I would say that makes it a necessity. But don't get me wrong, it falls under both categories at times. But for you to say we eat solely for pleasure would be completely off base.

Moving on,

I'm sure you've heard arguments for vegan or vegetarian diets and you've heard many against them so I'm not going to parrot them back to you unless you want me to go into it.

Bottom line though: vegan diets can be beneficial for some while they can be highly detrimental to others. It would be foolish to say a more vegan diet would be better for all who adopt them.

Here's an article if you want to read up on it: http://www.acu-cell.com/veg.html

And P.S. We're not horses dude. Our bodies behave differently than theirs and make use of nutrients in a different fashion. Anyway, thanks for making me read an article about horses' nutritional needs and digestive processes. It's something I've always wanted to do... sigh.

http://www.effem-equine.com/Waltham%20-%20Horse/nutritional_aspects/digestive_pr...

go eat your twinkie and shut up

Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention that he's a loser, because that wasn't self evident.

All these strange stories seem to come from Germany or Florida.

Yeah.... I read this and I know I left Florida for so many good reasons....

It's the south all-together; I believe there was a guy who raped a dog in Georgia.

no matter where you live, there is gonna someone that abuses animals and children. Singling out a certain state, country or area is just stupid. It's not the place, it's the PEOPLE.