5 yr old schoolboys taught about 'wife beating' despite evidence of abuse against boys/men
source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204359/In-week-Harriet-Harman-takes-charge-feminist...
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05th August 2009
Pupils as young as five will be taught about the evils of 'wife beating' and the need to form healthy relationships. The lessons are part of a controversial drive, unveiled today, to reduce violence against women and young girls.
They will include teaching boys that they must not beat their partners or any other female.
Last night, critics warned that ministers are cramming the already over-stuffed National Curriculum with lessons that should be taught in the home or in the community.
Others say the plan is part of the feminist agenda led by Harriet Harman in her role as Equalities Minister.
They pointed out the new classes will not cover violence against men, who are far more likely to be the victims of violent crime.
In the past few days alone, Miss Harman has blamed men for the banking crisis, and suggested the Labour Party should always have a female in one of its top two posts.
Under controversial plans, schoolboys will be taught not to beat their partners or any other female. The lessons will be part of the National Curriculum and are likely to be taught in Personal, Social and Health Education classes, which are attended by children from the age of five.
The Government claims that violence against women is costing Britain an astonishing £40billion. It has emerged they are carrying out five separate reviews into the causes and how women can be better protected. This is despite evidence showing that boys and young men are more than twice as likely to fall victim to violence, and that young women are becoming increasingly aggressive.
In a document peppered with the language of Miss Harman's equalities-agenda, the Government says the first ever Violence Against Women and Girls strategy is in production by departments across Whitehall 'Our vision is a society where women and girls feel safe and confident in their homes and communities so that they can develop fully, live freely, contribute to society, and prosper in their daily lives. We want to overcome women's and girls' fear of crime and the gender-based violence that they experience.'
As well as the lessons, the already stretched Health Service has been ordered to conduct studies into As well as the lessons, the already stretched Health Service has been ordered to conduct studies into how it can improve treatment of women at risk of violence, and police must carry out a review of domestic violence incidents.
It comes despite a separate Whitehall action plan on youth crime last month warning that girls needed to be targeted with special lessons to stop them being the aggressors in violent crimes - not the victim. A quarter of all violent assaults in England and Wales are carried out by women, and it is the most common reason for females to be arrested, recently overtaking theft and handling stolen goods.
Police figures reveal a massive rise in the number of women arrested for 'violence against the person' offences which more than doubled from 37,000 ten years ago to 88,000 last year.
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EmperorThan
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I can't stop laughing cus the girl in the picture at the top looks just like my friend Kathryn hahahaha
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MotherForTruth
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Div, please provide examples of violence perpetrated by men are condoned by mass media...
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MotherForTruth:
I'll have to search for exact examples later, but some few that come to mind:
- rape as being portrayed as something a woman can prevent
--> men are dissolved of their involvement in rape- some "high fashion" advertisements in which women are shown as animals and not human
--> if they're not human, then they don't hurt like humans so they don't need to be treated as such - 2 years ago
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div
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Motherfortruth,
You're right about women needing to learn that violence against other women is not ok. I guess I'm privileged that I went to a school where we learned about all of the categories of gendered violence...
But the fact still remains that violence perpetrated BY men (towards either sex) is an issue that pervades all societies and is condoned by mass media on a level that violence by women has never been.
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Div, boys/men do need to learn respect girls/women AND girls/women need to learn to respect boys/men. Men need to have sensitivity and courage to walk away and women need to quit thinking that their violence is harmless. I agree there surely are men who are violent towards other men, but additionally I want to bring to your attention the existence of numerous examples of women against women violence. The education on respect for men is as much as for women is urgently needed.
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MotherForTruth
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Boys are conditioned through their lives to think that violence against women is normal because of the media. Women are just now starting to be conditioned to believe that violence against men is socially accepted if it can look "funny" (eg, a slap upside the head because your boyfriend said something stupid).
What is more prevalent however, is violence against women.
Violence against men is more likely to be committed BY men as well. So yes, I think it is pertinent to teach boys that violence is bad. Should we pretend that girls are not violent? no, not ever. But when men are taught to respect women, the learn to respect men, too, because they learn they don't have to be violent to be 'men.'
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what do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
nothing, she's been told twice.
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i heard that one from a housewife so don't give me crap about it.ps women deserve only as much respect as they have for themselves
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money214:
The pain and the wars of this world happen because people think respect is something that is earned instead of just given.
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money214
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money214:
sounds about right. and?
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money214:
And....there are women that have self esteem issues and lack the ability to respect themselves. Your last line is not helpful advice.
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money214:
well i couldn't tell you about right and wrong, i came from a very and i mean very dysfunctional family.
its a sad and wrong part of this world, but bad parenting is a huge problem. i could advocate for parenting control on who should and shouldn't be a parent so children are brought up in a better world but many people will just think i'm trying to opress their natural rights to reproduce and impose my views on how children should be raised.
i could advocate for more anti abuse laws but its pointless because when i'm standing there telling it to a room full of people who never had to put up with the shit i did, they just give me a blank stare because they dont know what its like because its a situation they've never been in.
i don't think this world can be saved or even should be saved...we should let it ride out to a point where people will start to care.
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money214:
You are right, people would not understand unless they were in a similar situation. I have not been in such a situation, but my father was. I heard stories and that is enough to be painful and have empathy, but I still do not know how it feels.
I snicker at the truth of dictating who could and could not be a good parent. We need license to drive or operate heavy machinery but anyone can be a parent.
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money214:
Everyone deserves respect (period).
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div
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money214:
"women deserve only as much respect as they have for themselves"
Yeah, that's true. Except that society teaches women to act a certain way and then disdains them when they follow instructions. So I can't really agree with this statement. It's too black and white.
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money214:
I don't think this world can be fixed either. On some level it will always be broken, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't continue to try to fix what is broken...until our last breath.
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This article is false. Yes there are female on male violence, but over 99% of the statistics agree that there is way more male on femlae violence. I can not for the life of me understand why whoever wrote this would want to stop education that reduces violence.
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timetide:
timetide, please research your sources of information "over 99% of the statistics agree that there is way more male on femlae violence"... and check out these links.
http://current.com/items/90269278_domestic-violence-women-abusers-on-the-rise.ht...
http://current.com/items/90248121_husband-beating-on-the-rise.htm - 2 years ago
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Incredulous
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I am not disputing that fact MOT, I am only disputing the statement taken out of the context of the actual report, and indeed, the ranks of violent women are increasing, but they don't even begin to approach the numbers of men who engage in violence anywhere and everywhere, and that is where we need to address the problem, although I agree with hcice completely. The thing is, it is difficult to teach children to eschew violence when so many cultures exonerate it, in one form or another, or equate it with definitions of masculinity.
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hcice
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Just an idea, why not teach both boys and girls that it is not acceptable to beat ANYONE regardless of them being male or female. We should be teaching respect for PEOPLE and not focusing on a particular gender, race, religion, etc, etc.
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hcice:
Why that might just even work!
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hcice:
Totally agree hcice. It shouldn't matter if they're male or female. All children should be taught that it is wrong to hit someone else no matter who, what, where or when.
The part about them not wanting to "cram it into an already over-stuffed curriculum" is ridiculous. It's general manners and conduct in a school setting so of course it should be taught and enforced at school as well as at home, at church, at sports, in the community and everywhere else.
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that headline doesn't read very well.
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very misleading text...
"This is despite evidence showing that boys and young men are more than twice as likely to fall victim to violence"
While that statistic is true, boys and young men are NOT more than twice as likely to fall victim to female perpetrated violence. Take a closer look at the study you are quoting and not citing. Boys and young men are falling victim to male on male violence, which has always been the dominant form of violence. Indeed, we legitimize male violence via things like the use of excessive force by the police, and the recent tactics employed by the Bush administration. History overwhelmingly testifies to the fact that male on male violence is not only seen as a right, but in some sense as a right of passage.
Women and children are caught in the crossfire of what has been defined, since Cain and Abel, as masculinity.
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Incredulous:
So it's ok?
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Incredulous:
The same also applies to violence against women, there is a growing number of violence against women are perpetrated by women and not men. There are more women who initiated violence against men then the other way around.
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Incredulous:
J. Jammer....I suggest you answer that one for yourself.
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Incredulous
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Incredulous:
I did not ask myself.
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Incredulous
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Incredulous:
perhaps you should
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Incredulous
