Republicans Propagating Falsehoods in Attacks on Health-Care Reform

That might also depend on your health and your age.
If you have ever known any other system, besides government systems and if waiting, rationing, out dated equipment and procedures would actually affect you.

If you are healthy and young like most posters here are, they probably don't give a shit, it's a political win/loss.

But there are real Americans who will suffer from such systems. (Why do I not live with my love in AUS? my health plan doesn't work out of the USA and I don't want their government health care if I get married, and he doesn't want to leave his AUS due to family issues.)

P.S. I have been lucky to see alot of the world, the good and the bad of it. So don't make such conclusions when trying to stereotype people... also the only thing that I needed to oppose the bill is to understand several of the details FROM THE BILL ITSELF. I need no one to spoon feed me anything about this topic.. NOT Fox news or any one else. I can draw conclusions on my own.

Just as you have.

Funny, you trust the government with what ever they say now, but a year ago, everything was a lie. It can't be both ways. You either question or you sheep.

Health care companys
do that to it's denying people
care for a pre-exsisting condition
and do Americans suffer from medacare
because thats a goverment run program.

I know. And have stated the case for medicare elsewhere, and I don't need it getting worse than it is, as it is stated the changes that will be made in the bill...

There are insurances now on TV every day that are inexpensive (at least in my state) that don't exclude preexisting conditions. You just have to look and buy.

Healthcare will never be free, if you think that, then you are delusional.

I don't want it to be free
there are people that work hard
and still can't afford it

I always put it first, right up with food, then rent. So it isn't a matter of not affording insurance premiums.

I probably pay more for my medicines and co-pays and everything else on my fixed income, it's more than half of my pay. Do I cry and say I can't afford to pay my insurance? Medicare is NOT FREE and neither are the supplemental insurances or the medicines.

Being handicapped is scary with this bill coming around. I will tell you this.

I don't have anyone to pay for my food, and I made $0.12 too much for food stamps and other medical support thru the state.

I do not get supplemented housing, been on a list for a few years though. So I am on my own. I pay my car insurance, rent, everything else to be a good citizen, but I cannot afford for my quality of life to become worse than it is now -- medically.

I believe there is a way to decrease the costs of healthcare, but the current bill is not it. And a public option isn't practical either. What we need to do is to let insurances truly compete for business across state lines. We need to break up strong holds and start looking at ways of bringing costs down in ways that don't ration or delay treatment.

There is much that can be done. But currently, they seem to be barking up all the wrong trees...

it's not bipartisan that's what Beck
says but the tea parties are put together
by a conservative lobbying group
called freedom works
disappointed in Obama
but that he's not that liberal
and 71% of Amaricans want
a public option.

I've heard several reports and seen the video. Anyone on the left who tries to ask about public option or, more importantly, single payer option, gets shouted down by these right-wing, goosestepping thugs just like the representatives are being intimidated. These obstructions are not about protest, they are about keeping things confused and not letting people be informed about the plan. It's all about making any dem plan fail. Very transparent and very sad.

What's not transparent is Obama and the information on the plan, if the actual bill items that I for one am upset about am "mis-led" over by... uh THE VERY BILL ITSELF.

GET OVER IT. A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll conducted over the last week in July found that more people think President Obama's health care proposal is a bad idea than a good one.

According to the poll, 42 percent of respondents said it's a bad idea while only 36 percent said it's a good idea.

Now that we are able to see the bill, combined with the fact that the finance people say the bill isn't financially sound... it's going to be less and less popular as every day goes by.

NO GOP ANYTHING could do as much damage to the health care bill as the health care bill itself is doing to itself by being as bad as it is for Americans. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

Any human who truly needs medical care will be in a position where they will read parts of the bill. And they will have no problems telling their congressmen what a load of crap they are trying to push on our country.

Where is Canada? Just curious...

Funny, why do people of wealth come to the united states when they need a serious cutting edge surgery that isn't available in their country?

Oh it must be our horrible healthcare.

Get your self up to date, in America, where I live, the latest numbers to be generous would be 36% approve of the healthcare bill so far, and numbers are going down. THIRTY-SIX.

Goosesteeping thugs = the elderly: old ladies, some old men, the handicapped.
Children, moms and some dads.

In that order of ingredients.

Canada is 30 so
it not much better
but it better and we do
have the best health care
for rich people wealth come to the united states
because they can afford it but we do not have best health care for most people and most
Americans want a public option
people don't know if there will a public option
and that's people desaprove of the way
Obama is handling Health care.

what are you talking about.

my bad missing Canada, yeah 30.

The other post is to someone else. That's why it doesn't make sense in what you and I were talking about. Read up, it's one in between a bunch up there.

America yeah 37

and thirty-six percent of americans think the health plan is a good idea. Crazy.

Well, I'm going to go for tonight. It's been good talking to you . Send me a msg if you wish.

peace.

71% want a public option
most people think Obama is not pushing hard
enough.

The silence is because there is no big GOP plot. Seriously you guys give the GOP too much power and credit, they can't accomplish reactions like this, they never could before and never have before, so how are they suddenly doing such now?

Answer: They aren't.

it's not a GOP plot
it's health care lobbyist are puting
these mob's together.

Corporations=Neo Con Republicans. There is really not much of a seperation.