RARE Whale Being Slaughtered for Meat...

I am Japanese and I and many others here do not support eating whales. Please try not to us being "Japs". I must admit a lot of people do it here and it's something I'm not proud of and I hope it will be stopped.

then i wouldnt have my wonderful laptop.

but point well taken.

Especially Americans who try to force their hegemony on the rest of the world.

I like how he assumed that I'm an American.
And, I like how he decided that expressing my dislike of the slaughterers of one of the most intelligent and beautiful animals on Earth could be described as hegemony.
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You are obviously a caring person and have the health and welfare of all in mind. Enjoy your next KFC or Big Mac.

You might be interested to know, possibly not, that this "smug dick" has been a vegan for the last thirty-six years.

And I am sure that the two of you measuring whose metaphorical "tofu dick" is longer makes a huge difference as to how valid either opinion is. :D

I say you both should get locked in a cage and fight it out to the death. I mean, its the only way to be sure who is right. Right? ;)

Amazing how you don't learn from your mistakes.

Jumped on one guy and now jump on another. Sure, I could bleed my life choices and how they reflect my opinions all over this space, but what is the point? I mean, you have me all figured out already right?

Hitler comparisons are soooo Glenn Beck. Surely, if your going to criticize someone who for all intensive purposes agrees with you and, as I am sure you have figured out, makes similar lifestyle choices, the least you could do is be less melodramatic about it. Hitler led a government and a society to actively violate human rights, I have not led a ship to kill a whale, nor do I speak out in support of such actions, thus your comparison is melodramatic, extreme, and for folks that are Jewish it might even be quite offensive. You might not care, but it wasn't necessary.

How about this to clarify my point: Hypothetically, if you make the life choices you say you make and your father doesn't...BUT, you mutually agree on the topic and what should be done relative to that specific topic, is your father somehow less correct then yourself? You should be respected for your actions, absolutely. You live your life that is in harmony with what you believe. But disrespecting others because of your personal pride in such actions is in itself self defeating. Which was my only real point. It was joke reflective of the unnecessary tension. Too bad you chose to perpetuate it. It isn't necessary or productive. Oh, and apologies for my part in it.

Holy hell you are an angry one. Okay, obviously I am giving you some entertainment, so I am good for another round.

Your example is indeed correct, but you continue to compare, yes compare, apples to oranges. Of course you are not wrong when talking about an action like how to save a child. In a less melodramatic example, the same could be said for how to plant a garden. You would obviously have to know more then just "plant some seeds in the ground". My point was that everyone would agree that the seeds do go in the ground. Your point, if I am not mistaken, is that some people would be more qualified then others to figure out the details and take the actions. Of course that is true, but I was not aware that was what I was argueing against. I was simply pointing out that all of us think whale killing = bad, and you don't have to be living a certain way or experienced anything to come to that conclusion. Many different people come to that conclusion for a variety of reasons, some because whales strike somekind of emotional chord with them and others because eating meat seems like murder, and still others because they are endangered animals. I mean, if I was to over simplify my original joke, funny or not, it would be "we all think whale poachers suck, so why be dicks to eachother".

While I agree with your example and see the intelligence behind it, the anger you choose to bring to the table is something I need to step aside from. I am new here, but I did take the time to read your other posts, on other topics as well, and I can't match that anger. I don't want to match it. I choose humor, appreciated or not, as my approach.

If you and your approach to things is considered intelligent, then I forfeit this battle. Congratulations. I don' think it will give you much satisfaction, but there you have it.

By the way, everyone who can post here is invited, no one is univited. That is how the site works. Don't worry though, I will give you your space should I come across you in a thread again, which I am sure is what you want.

Should you want to continue this discussion, which I highly doubt, I invite you to send me mesage to my inbox here. This thread is about whale killing, not us, and as such if you want to continue this we can do via private message.

lol..can't tell ;P

I went and had a beer, and while I was discussing this very conversation with my gf she reminded me that my sense of humor doesn't translate well on the internet, and that if my sense of appropriatemenss on the web is only half as bad as it is in real life, I probably sound like quite the goof.

Who can not appreciate real loving support like that right?

Of course, she is right. And your right about staying in it until its done.

Per the email you did send, I am back. Well put summary, well put arguement. I am going to have another beer, you do the same and pretend I bought it.

agreed there are more concerning issues, but the killing of a rare, nearly endagered animal is one of the many of those issues.

as for the amount of whales that are being butchered overseas in japan, norway & several other countries are quite a few more than you have insisted.

and thanksgiving/christmas holidays are filled with contradictions, hypocrisy, selfishness & lies; and anyone who really celebrates those days are degenerates, but that is a different story...

When turkey, chicken and beef are looking to be endangered or extinct I will be right on board with such an action.

In the meantime, comparing apples to oranges to blur the reality of the situation is not how progress is made. You can set whatever priorities you want on the various problems in the world, there are more then enough of them that is for sure. Your statement could just as easily rebutted with "Who cares what a few Africans die of?". But that would just sound ignorant now wouldn't it?

Acknowledging one problem doesn't mean another one is any less valid. This is a problem, and the key to the solution would most likely do wonders for solving many others within the oceanic ecosystem. A hugely vast, fertile, and economically vital resource for everyone. Everywhere.

so to hell with endangered? worry about saving a few bucks at a species expense

I'd eat people, we need some population control...

no more tentacle hentai for you.

exactly my thoughts. . .

Totally agree. Plus either way why would the Japanese people want to serve or eat meat that has high levels of mercury that could be dangerous to them anyways? They should consider the health risks and environmental risks and stop slaughtering dolphins and whales.

it's a traditional part of American culture too. And Norwegian culture, and Finnish culture, and Russian culture. The only reason the Japanese can do it at all is because everyone else on earth stopped. That traditional culture arguement is BS.

...alot of japanese whaling institutions actually use the excuse that whaling is a japanese tradition, when in reality there were only a few small villages that used to actually do it.

yet the (japanese) whalers continue to exploit that small population

@iloveravi : Point well taken, I'm sure the Corporations use the guise of "culture" for business purposes only. I wonder what the outcome would be if there was a vote to see if the Japanese people would forgo Whale, Unfortunately, I am unfamiliar as to how Whale factors into their culture, so can't give any real insight :(

Listen guys, i'm really disgusted by this, but you have to realize yea maybe it's not the cultural norm over there, but there are enough people doing it to fund these sorts of slaughter expeditions.

karma is a bitch, they'll realize that when the mercury has left them blind, deaf and dumb.