Thank You From Laura and Euna

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On March 17, 2009, our colleagues, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, were arrested by
North Korean guards while reporting along the China-North Korea border.
After 140 days detained in North Korea, Laura and Euna returned home.

You can watch this "thank you" message and a full Vanguard special tribute to
Laura and Euna tonight on Current TV.

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  • rickyd2333
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      rickyd2333  
    • hi,laura and euna its ssssoooooooooo nice to have you back home we have been praying for you both.thank god you are home,rest ladies.laura its good to see your beautiful caring eyes again,god bless you please come back to reporting soon its your calling,ricky

    • 2 years ago
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Sounds like transwoman is actually thanking the North Korean government. We should send Kim Jong-il a box of Choco Pies. She forgets that Laura, Mitch, and Euna were supposed to be calling attention to the problems of North Korean refugees in China.
      Current should send Euna down to Tucson to interview Robert Park. I can't wait to hear what that idiot says on US soil about his voluntary vacation in Pyongyang.

    • 2 years ago
  • jaykey
  • PoliticalGeek
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • PoliticalGeek:

      Wow, people really are capable of forgetting the truth that quickly. You need to go back and you check you time line again kid, North Korea Closed negotiations before all of this started by accusing South Korea of being hostile in January of 2009, Laura and Euna were caught in March.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/country_profiles/1132268.stm

      If anything there detainment inadvertently restarted the peace process by giving Bill Clinton a chance to talk directly with Kim Jong-il.

      Lay off the fox news and conspiracy theories please.

    • 2 years ago
  • jjelite
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      jjelite  
    • Hopefully this will have taught you both a lesson. Mrs. Saldate you do have a daughter, maybe some though should be given to her the next time you decide to play junior action reporter. I feel sorry for those poor souls whom you comprimised by your misguided actions. How much good will did you cause the U.S. to expend by your foolish actions, we may not have it the next time it's needed for someone who didn't break any laws.

    • 2 years ago
  • lesaloralyng
  • matthew2003
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      matthew2003  
    • lesaloralyng:

      i read what you wrote, and i dont understand what you are trying to say, but it still stands that these girls could walk into every tv station in the world and talk about north korean human rights and they would get air time on every channel. They have a responsibility now, they have the power in their hands, if i were to walk in to a tv station and want to talk about north kkorean human rights, i would be kicked out, but due to the circumstances of their case, they now have the power to make the media listen to them and what do they do with that power?????, absolutely nothing!!, you have the weight of 200000 political prisoners on your shoulders laura ling, you can do the right thing and use your voice to spread awareness or otherwise on behalf of the prisoners in the camps, i hope that you die and are reborn in one of those camps just as many other children are born as slaves in these camps. You have the power now, do something with it!!!!!! because noone listens to me because i havent had the media coverage you have had. !!!!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • matthew2003
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      matthew2003  
    • laura ling is an idiot, after being released she was the one person on the earth who could have raised awareness of the people dying in the north korean concentration camps, she could have done a world wide tour and everyone would have listened due to the interest in her case. instead she goes completely quiet and lets the prisoners continue to die humiliating deaths, we should have left you there to rot woman!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • bill1think2012
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      bill1think2012  
    • I watch your shows every time it come on or I see it on. I love you two and wish you well.
      I did not know you were arrested in north Korea till now. When I saw this post. My heart dropped . Now my anger for this thing they did to, Two of the Worlds Most Lovable Saints. I don’t know if I can say I live with unconditional love any more. For, I fill hatred for the North Korean Gov. I believe that we as humans can will things good or bad to happen.
      And with that, I ask all peoples, that read this to
      “Light rubbed sage, as the smoke spirals up around you face in meditation, and Wish ill will and sickness on the leaders of North Korea“.

      I am so happy you two are safe. Please don’t let this stop you in your quest.

      For ever love William Alexander N…..K

    • 2 years ago
  • musicianbum
  • bafrent
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      bafrent  
    • Hi rrawtry,

      I would be happy for YOU or ANYONE if they had just been reunited with their loved ones. I'm just tired of EVERYTHING being politicized. There's something wrong in a world where something good can't happen to a fellow human being, without having someone use it for political purposes.

      And, BTW, "I" didn't admit anything. I'm not directly connected with this in any way, other than Laura and Euna are fellow human beings.

      That was my first comment on the web site. If current.com is just political arguing, I don't have the time...

    • 2 years ago
  • rrawtry
  • ras_menelik
  • bafrent
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      bafrent  
    • Those who have used the circumstances of Laura's and Euna's return as a way to attack the Obama administration show no shame and no compassion for what these women have just been through.

      Why can't they be happy for fellow Americans who have gained their freedom?

    • 2 years ago
  • fiat_lux088
  • keithponder
  • ThusSpokeYourFace
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • Dear Laura and Euna,

      I was very happy when you were released. I saw you both wlking onto the plane, carrying your own bags. Then I saw you get off the plane, hug your families, and talk to them. Laura even delivered a prepared speech. Though you both looked thin, especially Euna, I was relieved that you had apparently not been abused.

      But now you say that some of your experiences are too painful to talk about, and that your psychological wounds are healing slowly. I am very sorry to hear that. Of course such things were always possible, and my fear of them was one of the main reasons I signed the petition for your release and sent my own letter to the North Korean government.

      I hope that the love of your families, the esteem of your colleagues, and the admiration of your viewers will promote your healing. Good luck on your next project!

    • 2 years ago
  • ana_may
  • democrat69
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      democrat69  
    • They should be in a labor camp knitting Kim Jong Il's socks, sorry I don't do stupid shit and have no pity for people who get in trouble for doing stupid shit.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • johnd12
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      johnd12  
    • Everyone is thankful that you have been rescued. You certainly bring some interesting stories to a concerned audience. However, it is unfortunate that a rescue was even necessary. You must be embarrassed and humiliated for having caused such an international incident. Hopefully, you have learned to respect the laws of other countries, as well as those of the United States. It was not surprising that you were arrested breaking the law in a foreign country, as you have done so, and gotten away with it, in other episodes of your program. It seems to be a typical arrogance of many reporters to believe that rules should be suspended so that they can pursue a story.

    • 2 years ago
  • petarro
  • Clark_Patrick
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      Clark_Patrick  
    • I'm glad to see you both were able to make it home safely. BUT - speaking from the perspective of a photographer who has spent time in a number of extremely dangerous parts of the world -- you should not have taken the risks that you did in the area of the world you were. Although you are journalist and feel the need to speak for those who cannot tell their own stories... you are not one women armies. Whenever you leave the United States all bets are off, your safety is up to you... And unfortunately, as you point out your capture has likely made the possibility for people in that region to leave North Korea that much harder... being a journalist is not the same thing as a crusader. I have lost a lot of respect for Current TV for allowing you and your team to take such risks.

    • 2 years ago
  • sidewaysclyde
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Radio Free Asia now reports that Mitch Koss was indeed standing on China's side of the border filming his female colleagues before Laura Ling and Euna Lee were arrested on North Korean territory. This supports the theory that Laura and Euna crossed onto a sandbar belonging to North Korea in close proximity to China's shore of the Tumen River, which could have been done on a whim though we await the forthcoming truth from Laura's editorial this week.

      However it is reported in this RFA article that the objective was only to gather border area footage, a task that could have been safely done in Dandong where they were scheduled to go on that fateful day.

      http://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/ChinaSeizedDefectorFootage-08242009094102....

      SEOUL—Authorities in northeast China seized video footage shot by two U.S. journalists who were arrested by North Korea while investigating the plight of North Korean defectors in China, human rights workers said.

      According to the North Korea Freedom Coalition, a cameraman working with Current TV journalists Euna Lee and Laura Ling was still on the Chinese side of the border when the two women were arrested, and the footage he carried is now in the possession of Chinese authorities.

      North Korea Freedom Coalition Chairman Suzanne Scholte said that when Lee and Ling were arrested March 17, videotape was confiscated from their cameraman (Mitch Koss) by Chinese police and used to identify North Korean defectors.

      Ling and Lee, who had admitted violating North Korean law in an attempt to shoot television footage, were pardoned and flew home in early August after a personal visit to Pyongyang by former U.S. President Bill Clinton.

      Rev. Lee Chan-woo said that Current TV cameraman Mitch Koss had videotapes in his possession of Lee's orphanage when he was detained by public security bureau officials on the Chinese side of the border on March 17, and that police had told him during interrogation that they had seized them.

      He said that in addition to covering his orphanage, the two reporters had also covered North Korean women defectors offering online sexual services via video chat.

      Such footage could result in more security crackdowns for North Korean defectors in China, said Rev. Lee, who paid a U.S. $3,200 fine before being deported.

      Chinese authorities also seized documents from missionary Rev. Lee Chan-woo, 71, of Durihana Missions, whose orphanage for North Korean second-generation defector children in China was filmed by Current TV's journalists.

      "Everything was in the documents taken from me," he said, referring to detailed background information on the children in his care and contact information for human rights activists working with North Korean defectors in China.

    • 2 years ago
  • michael429
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      michael429  
    • reporters should not become the story....this is getting more than a bit absurd.....they're back, safe and that should be the end of the story.

      by the way, there are still at least two Chinese reporters that are languishing in prison because Yahoo Google gave them up to the Chinese secret police.....that is a much bigger story because all of the U.S, software companies doing business in China permit the police to have a presence in their facilities to monitor and to seek out dissidents.....why doesn't Current shine a light on that?

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Any day now, according to Lisa Ling's husband Paul Song:

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125107212590852551.html

      Mr. Paul Song said he couldn't comment on exactly what videos, notes or phone numbers may have been seized by North Korean or Chinese security agents from Laura Ling, Euna Lee or Mitch Koss. He said the two women would be running an editorial this week that will detail the circumstances surrounding their arrest and detention.

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • TumenTourGuide:

      The WSJ story says the poor guide was sentenced to six months in jail in China. So I guess he didn't betray them for a reward.

      I'm looking forward to that editorial by Laura and Euna.

      As always, I hope they're doing well. This has been a nightmare for them.

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • Laura and Euna - I hope you're recovering thoroughly and rapidly. Negative comments about you have appeared in the New York Times: In South Korea, Freed U.S. Journalists Come Under Harsh Criticism

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/22/world/asia/22journalists.html?_r=1&hpw

      But Mitch speaks:
      'The cameraman, Mr. Koss, declined to answer specific questions about the trip until Ms. Ling and Ms. Lee had spoken first. Still, he said, he was amazed by “how many untrue stories have been published in the last five months” and how “when there is silence, fantasy answers to fill in empty spaces.” '

      When you're ready, please replace fantasy with the truth.

    • 2 years ago
  • rivera10
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      rivera10  
    • well we are so happy for you laura my family we no god listen sorry my eglish is bad but i wana now ;;;esatamos muy pero muy felices de tenerte de nuevo ;laura te queremos mucho,mucho mucho.....................

    • 2 years ago
  • rivera10
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      rivera10  
    • well we are so happy for you laura my family we no god listen sorry my eglish is bad but i wana now ;;;esatamos muy pero muy felices de tenerte de nuevo ;laura te queremos mucho,mucho mucho.....................

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

      Video footage shot by two Current TV journalists who were detained in North Korea after filming on the Chinese border was used by China to round up North Korean refugees. This is according to Durihana Pastor Lee Chan-woo, who told his powerful story to one of South Korea's leading newspapers:

      http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/08/21/2009082100326.html

      Here are highlights from the above link:

      Chinese police also confiscated related materials including list of activists working for North Korean refugees in China, data on North Korean orphans, and video footage showing North Korean women who were sold into the Chinese countryside or appeared in porn videos.

      Lee said Laura Ling, Euna Lee and a man named Mitch Koss met him at a hotel in Yanji, in China's Jilin Province, on March 14. They said they wanted to gather information about North Korean women who were working in adult videos at the North Korean-Chinese border area and on other North Korean women who were sold into the Chinese countryside.

      The next day, the journalists filmed North Korean women at the border. They crossed the border and were arrested by North Korean soldiers on March 17. Ling and Lee were taken to North Korea, but Koss made it back and was arrested by Chinese border guards and handed over the video footage he was carrying.

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • TumenTourGuide:

      Well, TumenTourGuide, you beat me to the punch. But I've added the internet address of this story to my group, StPatrickOfTheTumen.

      This news report out of South Korea says the Chinese seized video of Korean-Chinese children from Mitch Koss, then closed the orphanages where the kids lived. As they continued their investigation, they acquired the names and plans of human-rights activists. The report also says that Laura, Euna, and Mitch 'filmed' North Korean women at the border. To me, that raises the possiblity that they did have a good, professional reason to go there. The final sentence is: "Koss declined to comment, and it was not possible to contact Euna Lee." So did someone really manage to reach Mitch?

      I hope Laura and Euna are enjoying their time with their families. They need and deserve it. But I also hope they'll speak frankly, soon.

    • 2 years ago
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • TumenTourGuide:

      Not so fast my friend; just because Lee Chan-woo says Current TV went to the border to film North Korean women doesn't necessarily mean that the border crossing was done at the same place.
      They could have gone to Mapai village to film a North Korean woman living there and then stopped by the border at a different point along the Tumen River on their way back to Yanji. (Also they could have stopped somewhere between Tumen and Mapai along the Tumen River on their way to the village.)
      Mapai is a village of China located very close to the Tumen River. It is about an hour's drive from Yanji, south of the town of Tumen.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
  • Hawk30
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      Hawk30  
    • TumenTourGuide:

      Actions, no matter how good, noble and righteous the intention of those actions was, have unintended consequences.

      Lisa Ling said before the Sacramento rally. "Right now we need the help of our government. ... At the end of the day Laura and Euna are journalists and they were doing their job. And they made a mistake on March 17, for which they are paying."

      Now we know there are innocents paying as well. And still no comment from Current. I understand the silence during the incarceration, but the women are home now and safe. I understand why the women are not talking. (I can only imagine how they must feel if they know about this article)

      But it is time for Current and the people who know what actually happened and why to start telling their side of the story. I am wondering why Current is silent. My conclusions are less than charitable. The truth will help me make an informed decision. Isn't this the job of journalism?

      The tag at the top says "our alien ways must be strange and confusing." Sadly, Current, this just seems like the same old stuff everyone else does.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • TumenTourGuide:

      Unfair assessment.

      Just because you do not get what you want from them does not mean that Current is like everyone else...or, for that matter, acting like everyone else. You just requested the information to make an informed decision and yet at the same time you're stating that you already made up your mind.

      If you were so even handed in your request then you'd ask it instead of state that you are forming and opinion it with or without the information.

      If the information is important you'd hold off on the opinion.

      It seems it is not.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
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      AlienNationRefugee  
    • TumenTourGuide:

      When you go from covering the story to being the story then you are news and deserve to be covered. No amount of subterfuge or obfuscation will help Current more than just telling the truth right now. Either tell it or others will.

    • 2 years ago
  • Mariamarti_Muhana
  • AlienNationRefugee
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • Mariamarti_Muhana:

      I created a group StPatrickOfTheTumen for people who want to get the facts on this case. I don't mean that I have the answers. I mean I'm inviting curious people to band together. So far, no one has joined. So the answer to your question is no, not everyone on this website is completely insane.

    • 2 years ago
  • versasrev
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      versasrev  
    • Sometimes you have to take a risk. Hopefully, they believed in the risk they undertook. I personally, support all individuals that take risks to enlighten the world to injustice. Yes, sometimes that means you have to put yourself in harms way, and yes you really don't want to be in harms way.
      When you believe that something is the right cause then you act appropriately.

      And in no way, under any circumstances, is what they did more than a danger to themselves. Anyone how thinks other wise is foolish. So yes, they did these things. Yes, there were dangers involved. Yes, they knew these things they were doing could be dangerous; and yet they did it anyway. I don't think people react that way for a paycheck. I think it's obvious that they believed it was important for them to do this, and that by doing so they would help to enlighten the world to the issue.

      That is what I call courage. That is what I call Valor. That is what I call sacrifice. Does it seem silly? To cowards, yes.

      To Laura and Euna: Keep doing what you can, for as long as you believe you can. That's all that you need to do. Peace, Love, and good fortune to you both.

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • versasrev:

      They were carrying their video interviews of North Korean women in China. The border guards seized those videos. That exposed those women, who don't have a famous sister and don't work for a former vice-president, to the wrath of the North Korean and Chinese governments. Laura, Euna, and Mitch didn't need video of the Tumen River. Taking that needless risk, they endangered not only themselves, but others.

    • 2 years ago
  • versasrev
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      versasrev  
    • versasrev:

      For Glans-

      According to some the act of going into China is a needless risk. Just because something seems like a needless risk to you in your time, in your place, and with your hindsight, doesn't mean that when a person is confronted with the real situation that those decisions seem perfectly logical.

      It is easy to determine the correct course of actions when one is thousands of miles removed from the situation and months removed from the event. Until you realize that unless you where a part of the entourage that made this excursion; then you can not adequately make judgments about what was appropriate at that time and in that place.

      Honestly, know one should be able to determine what they would do in that situation unless they where there or had been previously in a similar situation. If you as a person can say that you know exactly what you would do in that situation then one of two conditions must have been meet.

      1. You had to have been there in that situation
      or
      2. You presume to much about yourself.

      Plenty of people believe that they would make what they believe would be the correct decision, that they decide from the side lines well after the fact. In reality however, this is simply not the situation.

      If you where there, then forgive me for what I'm about to say, other wise no one really cares what you think because you lack the judgment to realize that you lack the experience to determine the correct course of action.

      If, you on the other hand have been a correspondent, then I can only say that I will then take your opinion into consideration.

      In summation, short of you having actually been there or in a similar situation; your assumptions about the appropriate course of action are unmitigated and irrelevant. As you would not posses any understanding of the situation.

      So either your a correspondent and you have a valid opinion on what they should have done, or you are a judgmental pretentious @$$. While it's true that only you will really know the truth, your next response or lack of response will tell me everything I need to know.

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • versasrev:

      versasrev, thanks for a thoughtful reply. Four people were in that situation:
      guide Kim Sung-Chul
      cameraman/producer Mitch Koss
      journalist Laura Ling
      journalist Euna Lee aka Lee Cheng-En
      I'm waiting for them to tell what they did and why. I'm waiting to learn the fate of the women in the videos.
      Meanwhile, I'm very happy that Laura and Euna are well. (After a few visits to lauraandeuna.com, I loved them -- I petitioned for their release and sent them post cards.)
      I haven't heard anything at all about Kim Sung-chul, alive or dead. Did he suffer for helping Laura and Euna, or get a reward for betraying them?
      I haven't heard about Mitch Koss, either. Does he still work for Current? Is he hiding his face in shame? Was the border excursion his idea, and did he abandon the two women to their fate? Why don't they even mention him? Why doesn't he speak up?

    • 2 years ago
  • versasrev
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      versasrev  
    • versasrev:

      Ultimately current has been playing this one really close to the hip. That said, we will all find out when we are expected to least likely care. My speculation on the other two would be pretty straight forward though.

      Mitch Koss is either right back at work doing what he always did, or moved into some lower position to be wedged out of the company latter, either way we probably won't ever hear about him. We will just move forward and slowly forget. As for Kim Sung-Chul, I would not expect to hear about him ever. Either which way it goes all bets say Mitch was probably well compensated and signed a non-disclosure agreement.

      If when Laura and Euna decide to speak they mention the fate of these two people, that will be the only time we hear about them. If they do not, I would expect to not be able to ever figure it out.

      We will wait and see what happens though. After that we can make are judgments about current as a corporate entity. So far they have been making it seem as if they tend to care about their viewers and staff, but depending on how this actually plays out it might have all been a gimmick. Hard to tell at this point though. We are all just going to have to reserve our judgments until we hear from Laura and Euna.

      That's really why it's best not to speculate at this point either which way. Something happened, and the situation has been resolved. Let's move on from there and determine our next course of action about this when we find out more.

      Although it should be noted that if nothing is said within 6 months or so people might get really upset. I would assume a good month up to 3 for some one to be able to talk about it if there was no abuse. If there was any form of abuse though I would not expect to hear anything about it willingly within a year or more.

      All said, there are a lot of unknowns, so lets move forward and not forget what happened.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • versasrev:

      Agree, AlienNationRefugee, I think it's Jammer's Kool-Aid.

      Look, I have been to the China/North Korea border. In fact, I crossed it a number of times at 3 different points without any risk of getting caught.
      Why was there no risk? Because I'm a professional; and prepared well in advance with tactical planning and reconnaissance. It was not done on a whim. Now you must take my opinion into consideration.

      Sometimes you have to take a risk. Do I agree with this statement? Only if the risk is mandatory for the mission. Current TV's crew had already completed interviews with refugees in the city of Yanji. That was the assignment they went to China for. Their purpose of going to China was not to cross the border to North Korea. In fact, on March 17 they were scheduled to go to Dandong in China's Liaoning province.

      Versasrev fails to address the fact that those confiscated videotapes likely endangered the lives of North Korean refugees and aid workers in China. It is precisely that circumstance by which the unnecessary risk Current TV's crew took at the border endangered more than themselves. That is what I call "sacrifice", which is obviously a different definition than the one tendered by Versasrev above.

      Going into China is not a needless risk. Journalists do it every day without getting arrested. Laura and Mitch did a documentary on Uighers in Xinjiang province without any trouble. Other reporters, such as Tom O'Neill of National Geographic magazine, have done the exact same story in Yanji that Current was doing without inclusion of a border crossing caper.

      We've waited 2 weeks for the truth; a story Lisa Ling said Laura wants to tell. I hope it's tomorrow, not next month or next year.

    • 2 years ago
  • versasrev
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      versasrev  
    • versasrev:

      Fair enough. Experience counts for something in my book, and I will concede to you on your points.

      That really just begs the question though of whose decision would it be to cross the boarder, in this case?

      I suppose speculation is useless at this point until the information becomes available.

    • 2 years ago
  • Hawk30
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      Hawk30  
    • Here is the link. It is a 12:31 unedited press conference. Some of it will be recognized.

      http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Lisa_Ling_Talks_About_Sister_s_Retu...

      I was paraphrasing what I heard. I believe that if Lisa says she doesn't think they used poor judgement then she must believe Laura used good judgement.
      I mispoke when I said that Laura told Lisa she used good judgement. I surmised that Lisa was basing her believe on the few things that Laura had told her. I apologize for stating my own opinion as a fact.

      Watch it yourself and draw your own conclusions.

    • 2 years ago
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Hawk30:

      Thank you very much Hawk30 from the bottom of my heart! I have somehow not seen this video before.

      The question asked at the 6:40 point in the video is inaudible, but here is Lisa Ling's reply:
      "Based on the limited knowledge I have, I don't think they used poor judgement. Why not? There's probably more that we don't know about."

      She prefaced that statement with her media mantra:
      "Laura will confirm that when they left US soil they never intended to cross the border."

      How do I interpret this Lisanese language? It simply means that the Current TV crew's intentions changed on the morning of March 17. Therefore it sounds like the border crossing may have been done on a whim.

      Laura will tell us when she's ready. Until then the truth remains detained in house arrest. I hope her new home has a nice comfortable writing desk and plenty of paper. She sure has a lot of 'splainin' to do!

    • 2 years ago
  • 1Eco_Media
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • 1Eco_Media:

      Maybe Laura, Euna, and Mitch were adding something really important to our understanding of this issue. We don't know, because the border guards seized their videos. If they hadn't made the excursion to the border, their report would have aired on Vanguard by now, and viewers could judge for themselves.

    • 2 years ago
  • TREBORUSMC
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      TREBORUSMC  
    • aliennation:
      What creative or adventuresome feat have you accomplished in your evil life? Have you ever served humanity? Have you ever traveled outside of the USA? We are blessed in this country and we do not deserve the blessing!!! You can change, aliennation, from your sourpuss attitude into one of appreciation of people, like those Vanguard reporters who try to improve the lot of poor and oppressed people all over the earth.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
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    • TREBORUSMC:

      I was bombed by al qaida in the Hyatt in Amman Jordan in 2005. Does that count?

      And I lived in South Korea (Seoul) for 5 years so I am well aware of the barbaric insanity of the DPRK. Perhaps it is for this reason that I find it so astonishing that anyone would joke around with DPRK border guards picking up 'souvenir rocks'. I am sorry but this whole story to me is simply incomprehensible.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Lisa responded that Laura used good judgement in stepping across the border into North Korea? Lisa said that? Laura said that? I don't think so. I would like to see a link to that specific statement or simply copy and paste it in a reply.

      Laura said Lisa was going to write an editorial with her "powerful story" detailing the events of March 17.
      That was 12 days ago and perhaps will shed light on what kind of judgement was used.

      As for Current.com, maybe now they can bring Laura's 2007 "China Sex Workers" video documentary back to the website, in which she interviews prostitutes in Beijing.

      Check out the review quote from Shanghaiist about Laura Ling’s work on “China Sex Workers”:

      “She also almost got into trouble with some local mafia (which brought back some nasty flashbacks of our own encounters with them a few years ago), but fortunately she got away with it and her tape!”

      Looks like Laura is experienced with using sound judgement when dangerous situations in China require her to do so. What was she thinking as she approached the China/North Korea border? Maybe her thought was "This will only take a minute" ?? We'll have to wait for that editorial that her sister said was forthcoming.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
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      AlienNationRefugee  
    • In all seriousness, I do hope that Laura and Euna will offer to donate any and all proceeds from "selling" their story to organizations that might actually help the victims of North Korean human trafficking. I think that would be a noble gesture on their part and help to allay concerns that people may have about their motives in this whole affair.

    • 2 years ago
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  • Hawk30
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      Hawk30  
    • In her first press conference after Laura's release, LIsa was asked if Laura showed poorr judgement. Lisa responded that Laure said she used good judgement in going into North Korea. As the debate continues, I believe it is time for Current to give us what they know. I understood the silence (but not the censorship) while the women were in custody. But why the silence now? What if Euna and Laura worked for another news organization? Would Current accept this silence?

      I hope that Current and the journalists (when they are mentally and physically ready) show true courage, and give us the truth about what led up to and what happened on March 17th. Right or wrong, Cureent and the ladies have become the story, and people want to know.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • TumenTourGuide
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    • Hawk30:

      What version of the truth? We haven't heard Laura's version yet. How can anybody be pleased with something that does not exist? That sounds like fantasy, not fact.

      Speak for yourself, Jammer, as you always do anyway.

    • 2 years ago
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  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • I started a group for people who want the facts on this case. I don't mean that I know the facts! I mean this is to be a group who politely seek the facts. My group is:

      StPatrickOfTheTumen

      And I repeat, I'm very glad Laura and Euna are home, safe, and sound. I sent post cards to them, I signed the online appeal, and I sent a hard-copy letter to the North Korean government, requesting the pardon.

    • 2 years ago
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • Some folks seem to think that Laura and Euna were accused of spying. No, they were accused, and convicted, on two charges: 1) illegal entry. 2) hostile acts (working on a video report unfavorable to the North Korean government). Some folks still doubt that they knowingly entered North Korea. A clear statement from Laura, Euna, or Mitch would resolve that. For example, they could admit or deny that they admitted illegal entry on their own video; they could admit or deny that they pocketed a souvenir stone from North Korea; etc.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
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    • he·ro n. A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life.

      I am very happy that Euna and Laura are safe at home with their families. Nonetheless, I think the idea of calling them heroes is laughable. They were very foolish and endangered their own lives as well as others. They should apologize to the country and their families now (not wait for their book deals) and promise never to do anything like that again.

    • 2 years ago
  • lesaloralyng
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    • AlienNationRefugee:

      Is this interesting? No! Because it's getting tired.
      Barelykim and Alien Nation Illegal...".....when Laura Ling and Euna Lee stepped off the 'safety' of China's shoreline of the Tumen River, the border between China and N. Korea, it was NOT! clearly marked, The two women were on N. Korean soil for all of 30 seconds, long enough for N. Korean border guards to grab them as 'spies' because they were documenting Korean refugees as human trafficking by N. Korea and/or China.
      There ARE situations where borders between two commnunist countries aren't clearly marked just as there are UNmarked border areas between the U.S. and Canada are there so that nationals or others can simply walk in one or two steps INTO Canada and no one's the wiser. So those from the Middle East can slip into Canada, UNdetected and start up sleeper cells.
      Anyone crossing from one unfriendly country to another, through a porous border, like China to N.Korea, where the borders are NOT clearly marked, is NOT going to know what they've done until they're declared to be 'spies'! N. Korea is isolated from the rest of the world and that's how Kim jong-il wants to it to be. If caught, you're an automatic spy. End of.

    • 2 years ago
  • TumenTourGuide
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    • AlienNationRefugee:

      1. One thing that is very clear about the border between China and North Korea is that China owns its own shoreline of The Tumen River. Only after you step off of that shoreline does the border then become unclear. I seriously doubt stepping off the safety of China's shoreline was part of the assignment that Current TV was in Yanji to cover, especially since the Tumen River border is not even within walking distance of Yanji unless you are a North Korean refugee.

      2. All of the North Korean refugees that Laura Ling, Mitch Koss, and Euna Lee documented were located in the city of Yanji, which is about a 45 minute drive from the Tumen River border area.
      When the two women were arrested for their 30 second adventure there was no human trafficking going on; the only traffic across the border at that time was 3 American humans and their ethnic Korean guide.

    • 2 years ago
  • AlienNationRefugee
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      AlienNationRefugee  
    • AlienNationRefugee:

      The nature of the cover-up and weak rationalizations is deafening. There was no story on the border. There was no reason for them to be on the border except "to get the shot"--to make it look as if they were being brave and doing something dangerous. Well you know what? It was dangerous and they were not brave. I would sincerely hope that Current TV IS NOT actively encouraging young Americans to engage in such publicity stunts. Next time they MAY NOT be so lucky.

    • 2 years ago
  • michael429
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      michael429  
    • some people have confused criticism of these two women venturing into North Korea with the idea that i am somehow sympathetic to the North Korean government. It's an absurd assumption...the North Korean government is run by thugs and criminals....their behavior unconscionable....that does not alter the fact that the two reporters used poor judgement and that being arrested was not an heroic act.

      jumping into a shark infested water is not heroic....the heroics are performed by the people that jump in to save you....hence my praise for Barack, Hillary and Bill.

    • 2 years ago
  • Inzo
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      Inzo  
    • I'm so glad you girls are back home, I kept you in my heart as soon as I read what had happened on CNN. It is so pleasing to know that diplomacy can affect people on such a personal level, and that there are people who hold influence who are willing to break down barriers in the name of humanity. Welcome home girls ^^

      And a big thank you to the people in charge at Current for the Laura & Euna marathons, these are 2 very talented ladies who have the balls to go where others fear to tread.

    • 2 years ago
  • dcgrrl
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      dcgrrl  
    • I've really enjoyed the Laura & Euna tributes. What a great way to turn this into a positive. You are two brave ladies, and you have done so much good and covered so many important stories. Enjoy a well deserved vacation.

    • 2 years ago
  • michael429
  • emmerton
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  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • Why must we know exactly what happened? It's not the public's business. It's obvious North Korea is not a humanitarian nation and that's all the explanation we need to know.

      The U.S. has questionable enough practices in this regard as well. We "detain" people for very little reason, simply for being a certain ethnicity under pretext of violating law. We have the highest proportion of people in jails in the world. We are a police state.

      Laws should be questioned and tested at every turn. Laura and Euna are journalists and it is their job to push the limits to get the stories. They are indeed heroes of the highest kind. To say they were irresponsible or acted unlawfully toward a lawless state is nothing but the mad rantings of unthinking authoritarians who only know to follow and do what they're told. They may as well be amoebas.

    • 2 years ago
  • michael429
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      michael429  
    • okay...of course i am happy that you are safely returned...but there is nothing heroic about what you did...it was dumb....going into North Korea and provoking an international incident for no reason was ignorant and naive....welcome home, glad you are safe...but you are not heroes....Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are the heroes.....

    • 2 years ago
  • philster72
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      philster72  
    • michael429:

      If you have been watching the news recently, you may notice that North Korea does not need to be "provoked" in order to act out. The argument that their capture was "provoking a national incident" is really lame. If there had been a national incident, the responsibility would have been shared by how the US and North Korea collectively responded to Laura and Euna's capture. And that was obviously handled quite aptly. So chill.

      What Laura and Euna were doing was being journalists, dammit! Excuse me, but at no point do I ever remember hearing either of them say, "O my God, this shouldn't be happening to us" or, "We didn't do anything wrong" or, "It's not our fault" etc, etc. Laura and Euna took full responsibility and did not complain once!

      To me, Laura and Euna showed guts through the whole ordeal, and I welcome them home wholeheartedly.

    • 2 years ago
  • nonbelieveringorereligion
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      nonbelieveringorereligion  
    • I am happy your are back. I would happily pay whatever our country paid to get your back. But it is time for a little honesty and tough love since you obviously do not listen to your parents and husbands or those who love you. As an American I say you have burned up all your "get out of jail free cards". I just watched you in Mexico risking your lives and others before you got your "wake up call" in North Korea. We know you crossed the border illegally. We have watched you break rule after rule and become bolder by getting away with it. You are real lucky you are not dead and never heard of again. You have heard of the three idiots that crossed into Iran. It was either stupidity or intentional so what do you figure is going to happen to them? Do they get lucky like you or do the Daniel Pearl? If it was stupidity maybe Iran should keep them. Next time you do it which will it be? Retire from risking your life, I am sure someone will appreciate that. Maybe someone else that needs a "get out of jail free card".

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • nonbelieveringorereligion
  • TumenTourGuide
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    • nonbelieveringorereligion:

      Don't forget the 53 year old South Korean housewife (Park Wang Ja) who was shot in the back by North Korean soldiers last year at the Mt. Kumgang resort.

      How do I know this? "J Jammer" would say it is none of my business that North Korean soldiers shoot innocent tourists. The North Koreans can shoot at anybody they want; we should not be so nosy as to ask why they would shoot a tourist taking a morning stroll on the beach.

      So were Laura and Euna and Mitch lucky not to get shot at? Well, from a "level of risk" assessment I would suggest that there have been other assignments where Laura has ventured into dangerous territory. Thanks to the recent Laura Ling marathon, we saw Laura crouching in the middle of the world's largest marijuana farm in Morocco, a huge plot of land owned by drug lords.

      I'll admit, the China/North Korea border can be very tempting. You won't find any marijuana farms, but the agates make nice souvenirs. There is actually a tourist destination near Dandong in China's Liaoning province that touts itself as being one bounding step from North Korea. (Google the term "Yi Bu Kua")
      Dandong was supposed to be the Current TV crew's destination on March 17. Perhaps they would have had better luck if they had waited until they got there before trying the border hopping caper.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • nonbelieveringorereligion:

      History; those who do not learn from it are doomed to repeat...
      Since the end of the Korean War, only 3 Americans have been arrested for crossing the China/North Korea border: Laura Ling, Euna Lee, and a drunk naked fool named Evan Hunziker.
      My point is that crossing the China/North Korea border and getting caught is an infamous distinction for tourists or journalists who act like tourists.
      3 Americans decided to cross the border into Iran just a few weeks after journalist Roxana Saberi was released. I wonder how long it will be before another American tries unsuccessfully to cross the China/North Korea border.

    • 2 years ago
  • polyvinyl
  • Glans
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      Glans  
    • Dear Laura and Euna, welcome home! I asked the North Korean government to give you amnesty, and I sent you postcards. I'm happy to see you back home, and It's wonderful to hear Euna's voice for the first time. I look forward to your return to work, and I hope you'll soon explain the March 17 incident on the Tumen. What has become of the women in the videos seized by the North Korean authorities as evidence of "hostile acts"?

    • 2 years ago
  • TumenTourGuide
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      TumenTourGuide  
    • Laura and Euna do not need to apologize to their nation.
      They already apologized to North Korea. However it would be nice to hear an apology from Laura, Euna, and Mitch Koss directed at the North Korean refugees in Yanji (China) who appear on their confiscated videotapes.
      Laura and Euna did go where they don't belong when they stepped off the safety of China's shoreline of the Tumen River. They were indeed warned not to get too close to the actual boundary by the person who arranged their China itinerary.
      If they had stayed in the city of Yanji and only went to Mapai village for a brief excursion then this border crossing blunder would not have happened. Instead we would be watching their documentary on China/North Korea human trafficking right now on Current TV instead of the highlight tribute.

    • 2 years ago
  • barelykim
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      barelykim  
    • At what point do these 2 apologize to the entire nation for putting us at risk on a global scale. They went where they did not belong, where they were warned not to go to cover a story that didn't need to be covered by the like of Current TV. Thanks again, Al, for making bring this country down yet another notch.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • lhatese
  • sandchild28
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      sandchild28  
    • Thank you for taking time to make this video. Both of you are incredibly brave and strong women.
      Hopes, prayers, and good strategy helped in bringing you safely home. The news of your freedom brought much joy to many people in the U.S. and other countries around the world.

    • 2 years ago
  • pandaman2105
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      pandaman2105  
    • great to see you guys again!!!
      I was moved to tears when seeing your arrival speech.

      you and the rest of the Vanguard team go to great lengths to bring us stories that REALLY MATTER

      I thank you and can't help but say WELCOME BACK!!!!!! :D

    • 2 years ago
  • SushiBandit
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      SushiBandit  
    • Aloha Euna and Laura,

      I am so happy you are both safe! Your stories inspire countless people around the world. Please rest and enjoy your families, you both deserve it!

      Mahalo nui loa, Mark

    • 2 years ago
  • Hawk30
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      Hawk30  
    • Laura and Euna. I want to extend to you my heartfelt thanks for the video and the letters expressing your gratitute.I can only imaging the adjustment you both are having to make after 140 days of isolation with a 12 year hard labor sentence hanging over your head. You both have a story to tell, tell it when you are ready. In the meantime, love your family and friends and heal.

      I also want to say "good going" on the book deal Laura. Make as much money as you can, and I don't mean that in a snarky or sarcastic way. People who have gone through or done little with their lives have done book deals, so why not you. You and your sister are obviously close, and have now gone through this ordeal and have bonded together even more.

      Euna, I hope you get a book deal too. Secure the future for your little Hannah. I also believe you will have some different insights into situation being from South Korea. Were you treated differently? Why no lawyer? I imaging you were singing to the Lord during your time of imprisonment, but what a joy it must have been that first Sunday back to church.

      God has blessed you and answered many prayers. May he continue to bless both of you ladies.

      The rest of this is for anyone at Current who might read this stuff. You do have people who don't need to rest and recover from a 140 day imprisonment with a 12 year death sentence hanging over their head (I really don't think they would have survived) that can start shedding some light on what really happened. How about it?

    • 2 years ago
  • IndianaFan
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      IndianaFan  
    • I'm SO GLAD you are both back safe and sound. One of the reasons I watch Current faithfully (or DID until your abduction) was you stories!
      I will admit that I was angry with Current (and told them so) for saying nothing --not even acknowledging your captivity -- when the rest of America's news outlets were telling the story-- but I'm sure they had their reasons.
      Take your time getting "well" from all of this and know that you really don't have to put your lives at risk just to get stories that we watch.
      I remain a great fan and look forward to both of you being back on Current -- when YOU are ready!
      MOST sincerely, Skip Surguine, Carmel, Indiana

    • 2 years ago
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