Japan to slaughter hundreds of dolphins

if there were any pro-whaling moles around here I suspect it would be you two. You two make anti-whaling activists look like they haven't a clue about what they are talking about and by reading your collective rambling incoherent rants on unrelated matters it would be appear you two haven't a clue about what you are talking about.

This is an old tactic - pretend to be the opposition but be such an extreme caricature as to make a mockery of that position. Then this caricature is held up to be representative of the opposition as a whole in order to lessen the impact and legitimacy of their arguments.

sepkuD

that is what YOU are labeling us.

you could have avoided losing credibility for yourself if you had not lied about dog meat not being eaten by japanese (ever), by editing the things you wrote in order to hide the evidence that you are the deceptive person, and by waiting so long to proclaim you were a whaling activist. your not even japanese, from what i can tell! Are you even a certified teacher in any state in the US?

i dont object to opinions by looking through a persons history. i just confront what they are presenting. if i find it DECEPTIVE i will state the facts.

and for you to go on mao's post for anti whaling, after all that has been said and done, just to flame her, you are guilty of what you are accusing us of.

you even said,

"i bet you cant tell the difference between a japanes person and a Chinese."

many japanes and chinese cant either! what kind of ignorant statement was that. can you tell the difference between someone from Germany and someone from England?

death before dishonor is the Bushido code.

zzzzzz.... you're starting to bore me. Wake me up when you have something lucid and coherent worth reading.

so your saying you cant tell the difference between the german and the english.?

or

are you saying you are not certified to teach in any state in the US?

you would never be accepted in Bushido. are you an expatriate reject?

zzzzzzzzz.....

is that all you have to say?

good one!

WTF? I didn't say Japanese ate dogs - where did you get that? Your buddy iamahuman is the one who brought it up several times not me. I was the one telling him he was wrong.

I'm sorry but both of you are quite strange and not very coherent in your statements

Seppukodave,

your weird for going back and playing ninja mind tricks by editing all your posts that stated "japanese dont eat dog meat and never have". and calling me a racist for for correcting your disinformation on the subject.

now that i sited the evidence you wait two days to reply, hoping i forgot about the whole thing, thinking you could get away with a last shot at me personally. i'm better than that and not a manipulative liar like you.

why anybody would trust anything you say, now, is bizarre to me.

alter or hide the evidence, thats is what the japanee tried to do after the war too! Way to go suicidedave!!!!

good thing for the whales and dolphins that you are only an english teacher and not a litigator.

ah, how little you know, you who thought Japanese ate dogs.

Japanese do not have an unsatisfiable appetite for expensive whale meat. That is one of the arguments against whaling is that the demand for whale meat is lower than what the whalers want to supply.

Whale meat was a cheap alternative to beef in the post war days. McArthur actually encouraged whaling as a cheap source of food. Many people had whale meat in their school lunches.

But in later richer days, whale meat reminded many of poverty so it lost some of its appeal. I've talked to those who had whale meat in their lunches and many of them didn't remember it with any kind of joy.

Your generalization of Japanese being some kind of ravenous whale eaters just justifies whalers in saying anti-whalers are racists.

Seriously, educate yourself and try to be coherent. Your ignorance in this matter is appalling and an embarrassment to the cause to save the dolphins (and whales).

"Japanese do not have an unsatisfiable appetite for expensive whale meat. That is one of the arguments against whaling is that the demand for whale meat is lower than what the whalers want to supply."

So, where is it all going then? petfood? to canneries in order to preserve it for future generations? you make it sound like the whaling industry is trying to force it on everyone. then why is it so expensive then? you say it is real expensive, yet they are feeding it to school children? (even dolphin labeled as whale meat?)

"no not me, you are .............!"

"no, you are....!"

"no, you......."

"you!"

"no you!"

lets grow up, shall we?

if you are going to be an "activist", which i'm not (just curious as to your tactic) just tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. you cant let a non-activist debunk the basis of your argument. if you do, then your only casting a shadow over the efforts of your "associates".

i'm glad that this post for the petition has almost reached 2000 views so i dont mind responding to your accusations and insults.

the only person defending whaling was you, by omitting crucial information, and by not being strait forward with everyone. so you dont agree with taking away their motivation to profit from whale meat?

With logic like that. How bout you jump off a bridge now to save all of us from having to read arguably "stupid" posts like this one?

wouldnt it be miraculous if they got raptured before they have to suffer?

How's the weather on those consequences? Whether is the most suitable word in this instance. However I could be wrong, I'm no linguist by any means.

what happened to intellectual conversation?

when i was admonished by current the person who sent the email said that you would never admit to being "pro whaling". so, till now, i thought you were. perhaps you should have been more up front about it?

so why did it take so long to tell me? were you trolling?

so stop whaling and stop drive fishing dolphins.

how can there possibly be a difference? they are both bad to eat and hunt.

yet you keep implying that whale hunting is not as bad as dolphin hunting, because the rest of japan does not "hunt" dolphin. and you even admit not knowing if they do eat dolphin meat, where you are. just "not killing them there".

grow up

If aliens come to earth they will eat the fat ones first.

the republicans first?

or should we offer "them" the dolphin eaters first?

(As an appetizer)

maybe they'll get full and leave!

Oh the kids that don't even know better deserve to be poisoned huh? Aren't you the compassionate one?

its their parents poisoning them.

your talking about what the corporations do or what Americans do?

americans express there view! thats how we have done so many good things too. just because there is some special interest getting in the way does not mean we condone it as a whole. you also foolishly assume they are purely American Corporations.

dolphin stake doe not = Fillet Minon

that is why you cant go dolphin hunting in the US.

maybe they should eat sea lion (i think they do), we got plenty. we cant shoot em cuz of the laws we have implemented as a nation. unless native peoples do it and they get crap for it anyway.

so the Japanese are not surprised by our disdain for such practices. they have a lot of contempt for our culture too. we have the right to tell them what we think is objectionable. just like they do.

so if i have to bash South Korea for eating dogs so that they realize they are not starving anymore and that there are better meats out there. i'll do the same to japan for eating dolphins.

'there is some special interest getting in the way'?
Good God, I weep for humanity.

Fine, I will bite. Let me ask you this. What gives us the right to preach to Japan? Because we are sharing this planet with them? Because we do so much better than them? What exactly? I can/will teach my children what would be good or bad for them. And as their parent, I have every right to do so. But to my neighbor's kids? I doubt it, even if he/she exercises an activity that doesn't seem 'right' to me. I will let his/her parent to handle it. And when I think things start getting out of hand, I will talk to their parent through proper channel. Period.

Secondly, if we are concerned so dearly about our environments' well-being, why don't we start with bigger, worse cases, such as giant US corporations all over the world that have been polluting the planet with lethal toxin / killing ecosystem for centuries. To me, the reason why we, US citizen, don't go after those companies before yapping about how the other nations should practice their diet is simply hysterical. I don't go out and knock on my neighbor's door to tell them to turn down their radio, when my son is hosting rock concerts at my garage 24/7.

Learn to argue better.

Yes, we can express our opinion, but throwing hissing bombs?
Give this poor schmuck a break. No wonder they think it's a joke.

the first amendment, gives me the right to say what i want.

dont some japanese, and bleeding hearts like you "bitch" about Hiroshima? did Nagasaki have to happen at all? they would not give up? we saved just as many japanese lives by not having to invade or starve them to death (witch they would have chosen to do if they were ordered by their emperor, how ironic)

when they committed more atrocities in northern asia.

what about the raping and slaughtering of children in Korea? have the japanese apologized for that.

We have the right to tell the japanese or anyone else what we think.............untill that right is taken away from me.

so you can eat a dog, a horse, your own babies (which some parts of china have been known to do for medicinal purposes), Donkey Penis, whatever. just dont do that shit in front of me and expect me not to tell you how revolting and sick it makes me feel.

japan, china, ............Canada.......wherever whoever!

dont kill dolphins!!! OR WHALES!

unless you think monkey brains taste much better while still alive than dead!!!

its about the humane treatment of animals. not prejudice like so many japanese want to claim.

if anyone reading this is japanese, its not my fault you are ashamed of your home land and are just trying to make excuses for animal cruelty.

its wrong! its a practice of Japanese decadence.

lobsters are stupid, dolphins are not!

the corporations conspire in secrecy. many Americans are against the things they do and have done in the name of American Progress, and are outspoken about it.

please tell me the japanese do the same. can you?

the fact is, they wont because of their nationalism and homogeneous culture. Japanese textbooks don't teach the history of WWII the way we do. care to geuss how?

there is a Japanese saying, "the nail that stands up gets hammered."

i'll stand up for my beliefs anytime when i'm defending the defenseless.

and i love to go fishing (its not even close to gutting a dolphin alive.) at least hunters wait for there prey to die first.

I'm sorry, I thought you could read English or you would know something about the subject. Life's too short. Your pardon is begged.

did you see the video?

if you r american?

did you agree with the backtracking we did after the Kyoto summit?

were you old enough? did you do anything in a proactive manner?

beatnik_kid

. . . Sometimes a graphic designer, sometimes a poker player, but most time a lazy kitten with beatnik mentality.

but mostly a loser without a life cus mommy and daddy did all the bad things for him so he could be a self rightouse asshole!

"learn to read english!" you mean "learn english"! if one can write it should be logical that one can read it? i was born here. were you?

get a clue and go do something!

like maybe finish the fights you choose, instead of being an apathetic loser without any purpose but to be validated on the WWW.

"despite international outcry"

its not just us!

iamahuman based on your rambling rant on Japanese WWII atrocities I think you care less for the dolphins and just want to bash japan.

As to beatnik, both are wrong but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye and say nothing. The main thing here is the pointlessness of their actions - dolphin meat is very unhealthy and is not a widely eaten food. Yet Taiji is trying to defend their practice as cultural and at the same time trying to push unhealthy dophin meat onto the rest of japan to justify their actions.

Being a whaling town too they are following the same tactics as the whalers - using the cultural defense and trying to lobby to get the dolphin and whale into school cafeterias. This is bad for both the dolphins and the Japanese especially the children who have less choice at their school cafeteria than the average consumer.

killing dolphins or whales? whats the difference?

You never answered my question BECAUSE YOU WANT TO LABEL ME A RACIST.

HOW DOES WHALE MEAT TASTE? YOU NEVER SAID IF YOU TRIED IT OR NOT.

WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? THE TRUTH?

"WHALING IS JUST AS BAD AS DOLPHIN CULLING".

sAMURAIDAVE......... Would you agree with that statement?

Personally, I am against dolphin drive hunting for more than several reasons, and I strongly believe that we shouldn't neglect what is going on with the issue in Japan.

However, I am also against the obscenity of stupidity.

GREAT SO YOU FINALLY SAW THE VIDEO.

GOOD JOB.

I'm proud of you!

Samurai Dave is saying you are ignorant because you are generalizing this small percentage of Japan and lumping it with a whole country, like how I don't call you a racist or a murderer or a money grubbing capitalistic hoor because there are a few in the U.S. He never said dolphin culling wasn't wrong.

BTW I am Japanese and I don't eat dolphins or any meat as a matter of fact and infuriates me that you tell me I am not an individual with my own thoughts or that I do not care about the dolphins because I am Japanese. I definitely think that the Nanking rapings etc. were wrong just like how I think the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were wrong.

Stop hating

tinimoto!

i think you are sensitive because it hurts to know your own culture and heritage would reject you (unless your a monk) for your beliefs.

so you think whale hunting is ok too?

do you eat it too?

Sterilize yourself! SaBUKOdave!

Bakatade whale hunter/hethan!

answer the question or you are just a facade. no honor! no glory? you are not man enough to admit you eat whale!

i'm sorry to beatnik_kid who is probably getting these emails with these bizarre replies.

I find it ironic that on the youtube link to the Cove I am currently arguing with an irrational pro-dolphin-hunting person while here I am arguing with an irrational anti-dolphin-hunting person.

Neither of which are capable of making a lucid coherent argument. It just goes to show that extremists regardless of what they stand for and very much alike.

ok so the pro dolphin killing guy and i have something in common.

we dont see the difference between killing whales and dolphins.

P.S. thanks for editing your language toward me.

(even though people will, now, think i was the one who was initially abusive).

editing my language to you? You told me to sterlize myself and called me stupid in Japanese. I don't have to edit my language to someone is insensitive and ignorant.

but you did alter your posts. anyone familiar with the thread should know it. i did'nt because i dont play mind tricks on people.

and you told someone else previously to "sterilize your (his) self" because you reacted to a statement he made in the same manner.

you were the first to use this statement toward "armelite."

"japanese kill everything they can? Wow, what an insightful intelligent comment! Please sterilize yourself."

who is really the insensitive and ignorant person?

insensitive and ignorant? Uh, that would be you.

As for my comments to the other person, his comments were racist in that he was generalizing all of Japan as a race of killers.

You are often dancing that line as well with your generalizations and your assumptions. When you went on your little tirade about WWII atrocities, it told me you were more about bashing Japan than saving whales or dolphins.

see, this is what i'm talking about mind tricks for.

you first accused me of telling you to kill yourself. then you go back and change it to what i actually said, ".....sterilize yourself.....?". and that was only done to mock your inability to notice the double standard you are expecting everyone to accept.

then you complain about it? you can dish it out but cant handle it yourself?

get real.............. "suicidedave".

the only reason i called you a "bakatade whale hunter" was because you never admitted your feeling on whale hunting until last night.

i mentioned the WWII atrocities do emphasize that japan is able to change. unless you disagree.

then go live there!

noooo, actually we don't hunt, kill, and eat whatever we want in America. Hunters are bound to rather strict regulations as to the number and type of animals they can hunt and when. We do not hunt endangered animals or consume them (legally at least).

And as I mentioned before, this isn't a practice that you think "Japan" needs to stand up for its rights as the vast majority of Japan does not hunt or eat dolphins.

sami dave,

"noooo, actually we don't hunt, kill, and eat whatever we want in America. Hunters are bound to rather strict regulations as to the number and type of animals they can hunt and when. We do not hunt endangered animals or consume them (legally at least)."

"We"................... Americans or Japanese?

please clarify.

"Japan to slaughter hundreds of dolphins? Really? the whole country? I'm in Morioka at the moment and no one here is going to slaughter a dolphin (the coast is about two hours from here)."

have you ever eaten whale or dolphin.....in Morioka. does anyone else eat whale or dolphin in Morioka?

"If you lump this in with whaling and generalized it as a nationwide practice, you just shoot yourself in the foot as the dolphin slaughterers will just latch on to that larger issue trying to cover themselves in the pro-whaling argument. And the average Japanese citizen instead of condemning the activity as they might do on their own will feel compelled to defend dolphin slaughter in order to defend their culture."

they are already doing it. you are just trying to save face for the rest of japan and yourself.

imaahuman you would be better to learn how to make an lucid argument.

My point is that this dolphin business is not a Japanese phenomenon. It is very localized and no I haven't eaten dolphin and doubt very few people have in Morioka either since Morioka is the in northern part of Japan and Taiji is way to the south. Taiji is the only town left in Japan which hunts dolphins.

Blaming all of Japan for hunting dolphins or supporting all of Japan in defending their culture in lieu of western hypocrisy of eating beef
(a bad argument in itself) is erroneous.

Rather it would be better to focus the attention on Taiji rather than the whole of Japan.

the progressive north east of the USA, the whalers of Moby dick (so to speak) even stopped.

so "Japan as a nation" can make "them" stop too.

why do you sound so complaisant? that video pisses me off!!!

HOW DOES WHALE MEAT TASTE?

BE HONEST NOW!

whales.......... dolphins.......... WHATEVER!!!

so tell me.

How does the nation of japan feel about the consumption of Whale meat "in general"?

and dog meat? (since i'm asking)

WTF are you on about, man? You make no coherent sense and really haven't from the start. Do you suffer from ADD? Your post is a rambling mess.

You talk about Moby Dick, ask me how whale meat tastes, how japanese feel about whale consumption when this is about dolphins and you ask about dog meat which nobody eats in Japan.

Do the dolphin hunting protestors a favor and stay out of it. you're more damage than an assest to the protest.

so are you saying you condone industrial whaling?

you did not answer my question DUUUUDE.

have you eaten whale meat?

how many times do i have to ask you directly?

why can you only hop around from reply to reply and try to avoid the question?

JAPANESE USE TO EAT DOG A LONG TIME AGO.

HAVE YOU EATEN WHALE MEAT? YES OR NO?

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOG MEAT AND WHALE MEAT?

NOT MUCH TO ME. NEVER TRIED IT. NEVER WILL.

you have a mental problem, don't you? I have seen some of your other rambling posts on here. You are barely coherent. Your mind is all over the place. You can't keep things straight or focused.

You're asking about whales (and dogs for some idiotic reason) when this whole thing is about dolphins.

Stay on topic and take your medication and stop embarrassing yourself.

that is the mind trick you and the japanese whaling industry wants us to focus on.

I REPEAT

THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHALE HUNTING AND DOLPHIN HUNTING!!!!!

WHY CANT YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL?

I REPEAT

THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHALE HUNTING AND DOLPHIN HUNTING!!!!!

LET ME GUESS, YOU ATE WHALE MEAT DIDN'T YOU?

I see no personal attacks on this post this is just a statement, Do you eat whale meat? that is not an attack it's a question, if people can't handle a little heat get out of the kitchen.
Sorry my feelings not an attack.
You should see some of the attacks i get form some of these pro this and pro that. I just brush it off. I have been called worst by better people than them.

maof4brats,

from what i can tell you have always been a sweet heart. and i remember some of those too.

do you eat whale meat?

How does that relate to an article about dolphin slaughter, maof4brat? How does one eating or not eating whale meat related to that issue?

Iamahuman is all over the place with incoherent rantings from WWII atrocities, to whaling, to eating dog meat which they don't even do in Japan.

It's sheer comedy!