Mexico legalizes possession of heroin, marijuana, LSD, and cocaine
source: http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/mexico-legalizes-drug-posession/
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Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin on Friday — a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of the government's grueling battle against drug traffickers.Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's corruption-prone police from shaking down casual users and offers addicts free treatment to keep growing domestic drug use in check.
"This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty," said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general's office.
The new law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution.
Espino del Castillo says, in practice, small users almost never did face charges anyway. Under the previous law, the possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts.
"We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he said.
Despite the provisions, police sometimes hauled in suspects and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.
"The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion," Espino del Castillo said.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the new personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory.
The maximum amount of marijuana for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.
Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people since President Felipe Calderon took office in late 2006.
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Joe_Medina
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Think about this Mexico, the marijuana farm of the world!
- 2 years ago
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Joe_Medina
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thebeancounter41
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The US will never follow suit until we stop favoring big business in our legislation.Because legalized drugs WILL impact the profits of liquor and the pharmaceutical industries and they spend millions every year omn lobbyists and campaign contributions to ensure our politicians vote favorably to their interests.And what is favorable to their interest is keeping ALL street drugs and herbs ILLEGAL
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thebeancounter41
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EmperorThan
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Would be funny now if there was a mass migration of people across the border from the US into Mexico seeking freedom.
- 3 years ago
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EmperorThan
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jonbrooks
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Alt headline: Mexico bracing for sudden surge in tourism.
- 3 years ago
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eldiablo
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I was surprise when i saw this. Finally, Mexico is taking it's baby steps to become something good ones more =)
- 3 years ago
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eldiablo
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HighonFructose
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I think this is a step in the right direction. No matter what the government will ever do, people will still be doing these drugs, and those amounts are definately reasonable to put a limit on personal use. Its not the drug users that are the main problem, its the drug dealers. Finally a government that can understand the difference.
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HighonFructose
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Scalar
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HighonFructose:
Again, the quantities of everything but cannabis are unreasonable and this law does NOTHING but stand in opposition to our imperialistic imposition of moralistic laws.
Quantities:
Meth - just less than one full hit.
Heroin - less than two daily doses of cut up, tarry street junk.
LSD - Wowee, less than a THRESHOLD dose. (i.e. you wouldn't even notice if you took it.
Cocaine - Enough for recreational use, but not enough to get an addict through the day.
Cannabis - the least addictive one by far, yet the only reasonable amount.De facto drug enforcment policies in Mexico are no different than this red herring of a law. It's a waste of time to prosecute addicts because they take up too much violent offender jail-space and Mexico has realized this for quite a while. ALL this law does is flip the bird to the United States.
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Scalar
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euqinaid
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I just don't understand why drugs are the highlight of everyone's lives nowadays. The law's supposed tabs on limited drug possession is not going to work. People don't work or think like that! It's a slippery slope because a little bit of leaven,.......if you get my point!
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euqinaid
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euqinaid:
Well when it comes to cannabis-The first cultivated crop-the enthogen that promoted the evolutionary leap to language and philosophy among early hunter gathers. It prevents/cures cancers among many other disease. The perfect balance of Omega fats and nutrients!
Do you realize how much power and wealth the elite's amass from there control of the military industrial and pharmaceutical industrial complexes? Not to mention there corporations like the American Cancer Society and there control of your mind with their media!? It's just so all encompassing and much of it evolves around cannabis!
The Soma Solution by Chris Bennett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r2mN1pl4Gg
Politicians & Cannabinoids - FLP/BLP Theory, Dr.Bob Melamede
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbNXQw8Xk2w - 3 years ago
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MinneapolisMafia
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veronaaa
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marijuana ok, fine, logical. but LSD, Heroin? come on. WTF?
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veronaaa
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trelk
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veronaaa:
heroin is the most addictive and deadly drug known to man. lsd is neither addictive nor deadly. they should not be lumped together as "hard drugs".
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trelk
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Bunjing
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4 is all i need...
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Bunjing
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TrilLogic
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The same stuff is happening here, more reason for us to legalize.
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Rodney_Rachal
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Im on the fence on this one.... on one hand it looks good to see mexico changing its drug laws but you just cant think that the drug cartels had their hand in this. we are going to see more poeple going to mexico just to get their high on. Small businesses and clubs are going to be selling these drugs that the cartels will be supplying. i think the cartel war will shift to these places But it may not be as deadly cause it will be bad for legal buissness. I can go on and on about this...
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gem7007
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Uuuugh no comment
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gem7007
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gem7007:
except that one, right?
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jac1992
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gem7007:
nice burn
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jac1992
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jac1992
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Less time spent on the petty stuff, more time spent on the cartels. Good idea, lets hope the execution is aswell
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jac1992
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jac1992:
Listen to all 11 parts! Amazing!
Mike Ruppert - The CIA & Drug Running (4/11)
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MinneapolisMafia
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Earlier I said it was a step in the right direction? This is a shell game! This "allows" the poor bastards that are hooked on meth and coke to keep ruining there lives which to a libertarian like me is fine but the problem is they affect their families and many times communities. All the while the CIA, DEA and big governments, police and the so-called 'drug lords' which are below the for-mentioned thugs and ALL of them are under the Don's of the whole mob which are the Bankers (banksters) which launder and make all the 'real' money and power in the drug war which really is world wide!? Wake up people ! TOTAL DECRIMINALIZATION is the only way to take the power back! The 6000 or so 'superclass' need to be removed.
I don't agree with this whole vid being that I believe 9-11 was an 'inside job', at the very least a real investigation need to happen. But there is some interesting points.
New American Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsHFwrwdQ-0
US Government is Addicted to Drug Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbgjvC1OT8g
Michael Ruppert is hiding out in another country!
Michael Ruppert confronts CIA director about Drug Laundering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3pl5Wxgyg - 3 years ago
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Alex_French
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5 grams = 4 joints?
who rolls your joints?
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Fearzen
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I don't get it. Doesn't sond like it's going to help anything about Mexico (other than, as many of you say, tourism). I would put my money on this being a big mistake.
. . . but maybe that's just me.
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antoniomo
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antoniomo:
Correto.
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Drach
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Time for the US to follow suit.
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Drach
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ocanada
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This is rediculous. Marijuana certainly, but Heroin, cocaine, and LSD? This makes Mexico into the failed state we feared. Mexico is now 100 percent cartel owned. Pathetic.
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ocanada
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poopdude
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Horray for addiction to drugs!
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poopdude
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kttyk713
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wow, really?
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hunzedog
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if its legal they have to have somewhere to buy it legally ?
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hunzedog
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hunzedog
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so in theory a cop can arrest you for having 6 joints ; AND he can be smoking a joint when he does it.?
The thing the cartels and our government both dont want us to remember is that Cannabis IS FREE !!!
You CAN have your WEED and smoke it TOO !
you can buy a few seeds for 10 bucks a pop, and never pay for marijuana again.
I hope this is real.......
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RuthRuthless
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Now that I think about it this really isn't going to help anything.Interesting try thou.
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GodsnLiberals
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A good to add stablization within the Mexican mentality as whole. This specific move explains why Mexico is in such a fucked up state. Hey why not. If it does not work just blame those "evil" imperialists and leech if thier welfare system.
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GodsnLiberals
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I have full faith that these mexicans will prove that legalizing drugs is an idiotic quick fix to this drug problems
Drug Use is for the weak minded!!!
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RuthRuthless
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It was bound to happen eventually. Lets see if it helps.
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CalgarC
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YaY the drug war is coming to a near end :D
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The US should do the same... instead, here in California, our idiot "Governor" Arnold is planning on releasing about 25,000 prisoners to "help our economy", many of whom he plans to keep on house arrest...maybe he should just release the drug offenders who didn't hurt anyone!!! America brags about being the leader of the world but really we are just falling further behind every day...
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stephenthomson
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pretty cool, but -- when I bought coke ("perico") in Mexico, it usually came in bags ("cebollitas") greater than .5 gram.
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denport
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Great, now if they open state run stores, they can under cut the cartels and soon the cartels will run out of capital and no more cartels. The gangs in america during the alcohol prohibition went belly up when people could buy it from state regulated stores.
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denport:
bingo!
two birds..........
:)
oh yeah, more like three birds! corruption, drug cartels, TOURISM!
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iamaman
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MinneapolisMafia
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Well it's a step in the right direction.....
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@rodrigosaenz Old news hermano http://www.milenio.com/node/204108
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While I'll admit this is breakthrough policy, I have to quibble about the maximum personal quantities of the a couple of the drugs. ANYONE who uses methamphetamine is almost guaranteed to have more than 40 milligrams of it on them at any given time. That's damned near a full hit for serious users. At first glance, the quantity of heroin an addict might have at any given time, scoring two doses once a day seems likely under the max mark. However, a full dose of heroin when pure is somewhere around 15mg, and this is rarely found especially in countries not heavily producing opium. An average hit, while I've never abused or weighed street samples of heroin, I'd wager money is more than 50mg in total mass. Regarding the LSD... how do they calculate the amount of the actual drug? Do they? Do the weigh the whole damned hit? What if it's in a sugar cube, or a jelly?
My last nitpick is just a silly one. Five grams of pot in four joints? Dang, bro. Whoever wrote this is a serious smoker. - 3 years ago
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ajiacoysancocho
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The United States should do the same, as Mexico's new law only solves their side, but will have little effect on drug dealing here.
As soon as the strong nations legalize or apply similar laws as Mexico, they will realize it was not such a great problem on its own. All the fuss of stomping out drugs was the resource wasting problem.
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bailey78
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I wonder how long before the U.S. comes to there sences and does the same thing.
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hayden_augustus
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Your move Barrack. Time for us to do the same!
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hayden_augustus:
as much as we all like to think that Barrack is a cool guy and all, i REALLY don't think he's ganna do this for us anytime soon. And honestly, i prolly wouldn't either. Not cuz i don't this it's the right thing to do, or because it's not important, but because there is already some serious shit going on in this country, and the masses can only take but so much. Once the health care this is resolved (and please let it be soon) and once the economy has more time to heal, i would propose the idea. And if he waits for a good time, and explains, in everyday English, all the good things that will come from this, i don't see too much room for opposition.
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hayden_augustus:
No one is going to take your point seriously in an online discussion if you can't spell the president's name.
C'mon guys, you're better than that.
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My initial impulse on seeing this headline was to check the calendar. Awesomely, it is not April 1st! Good for you, Mexico. Too bad for some of us that America is too backward to ever follow suit.
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hunzedog
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This is brilliant for mexico to do...we allready buy drugs from them, they might as well make it legal. Imagine the possibilities...America is turning into a third world country ! The only thing America is making right now is Enemies ! legalize it all MEXICO ! undalay
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hunzedog:
Both sides need to legalize it, to deal with the problem in both nations.
On a related note, Mexico isn't the only country that has this issue, and thanks to them, other nations may follow suit.
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"The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion," Espino del Castillo said
Thats the proverbial Yang in our Ying
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Capicuaman
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good for them!
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Its a sad day when the laws of Mexico are more fair and sensible than those of the United States.
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bansheewail
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Cancun just got a lot cooler. I predict a spike in tourism South of the Border.
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partyrager
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Sweet! I just booked a week long vaction in Mexico! Looks like its going to be a good one. This takes away some of the sketchiness of the problems with the cops. The US should take note and follow suit.
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Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's corruption-prone police from shaking down casual users and offers addicts free treatment...
Mexico has left the nations of madness.
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Now if they could just do something with those pesky murderous cartels, we could all take a vacation.... I see it now; go there, get kidnapped, they find out I don't have money, and they kill me for wasting their time..... happy for them, but if I were a consumer I think I'd stay in the states and risk a charge....
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It should happen in America, but too many wardens make money off the imprisonment of non-violent offenders, so until it becomes the Washington topic of the month I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Mexico = New Amsterdam? probably not
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Iheartponies:
You beat me to it.
But I'm going to bank on Mexico becoming the New Amsterdam... at least for Americans.
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Iheartponies:
Mexterdam.
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Iheartponies:
Mexterdam, that's hilarious. I'm gonna use that one.
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The headline doesn't match the article...
Headline: "Mexico legalizes possession..."
Article: "Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin ","This is not legalization...","People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution."
Sounds like decriminalization, similar to what California has already done with marijuana. I doubt that there will be Amsterdam style coffee shops popping up though. Still a step in the right direction.
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sk8r408:
Are you high? ;) California is still in the US last time I checked. Possession of marijuana is still a crime, federaly. People get busted in CA for drugs all the time. I agree with your point about the headline, but that was the headline on the site I clipped it from. Sorry, for the confusion.
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sk8r408:
Also decriminalized in Massachusetts. Get your facts straight, banshee. The federal government doesn't control everything.
But yeah, the title is very misleading and contradicts what the article says.
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sk8r408:
The difference between Cali and Mexico is a thin but important line (much like the border, I guess...)
Cali is legalizing the concept of Medical Marijuana Users and Dispensaries, while Mexico is dealing with possession for personal, and ostensibly "recreational" purposes...
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sk8r408:
Found _Avenue, I'm not talking about medical marijuana. California has decriminalized less than an ounce of marijuana to for anyone, not just people with a medical card. They have legalized it for people who have a medical marijuana patient card. The decriminalization aspect is what I was comparing to Mexico.
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sk8r408:
this happens a lot on current, but it seems to always be the ORIGINAL headlines from other sources. its the big media's fault. i opened this article thinking one thing, and as i read, discovered something different. it isn't fair. people should come up with their own headlines when they post the articles if the title is misleading.
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Anybody have any idea IF THEY ARE going to allow hash stores? or is it still distributed illegally, if so it is still susceptible to huge corruption issues. But at least they arent throwing people in jail for petty shit. Although the mexican police don't arrest for anything as long as you have enough money to buy them off.
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Let's see how this works for them.
I'll also be watching if it starts to fail if the Drug Lords of Current post about it. I don't have high hopes on that one.
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ii386
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Those joints in the picture look like a little more than 5 grams!!!! Get them!
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ii386:
hahahhahahhahahah.
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bailey78
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Wow mexico thats the way to go Vato
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bailey78:
Yeah essay...er I mean short story.
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bailey78:
shawn fails...
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Awesome..can't wait til my next vacation!!
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Mexico has been talking about this for quite some time. It started all about the same time the swine flu "outbreak" began. Obama was also in Mexico last week, i am sure this is something they discussed.
I would love to see these drugs legalized, however this does nothing to stop cartels. Who produces all the drugs now? the cartels. this is basically allowing them to sell freely now. Without other limits in place this will just end up hurting mexico even more. If they wanted to stop the cartels they should legalize it in the US, because that is where all the money comes from!
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marQueso:
Longer than that, it was voted against about 4 years ago... the United States threatened to pull funding because they said it would promote drug tourism... which it most likely will unfortunately.
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"Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers..."
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hell0everything:
Agreed!!!
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hell0everything:
Damn straight.
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bansheewail
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Mexico is leading the way on drug law reform. Who knew? If the murder rate and the cartel activity goes down, it will be hard to deny that the US needs to follow. More money and less violence makes for a happier world.
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bansheewail:
The drug related murder and crime rate in Mexico has little to do with personal drug use of Mexican citizens.
It is directly related to the damed for drugs in the US. This will have zero impact on the Drug cartels in Mexico.
I
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bansheewail:
I agree with the other posts, the American Black market and the flow of weapons from TX to Mexico are major contributing factors to the violence of late. Police corruption is the root of the problem.
If you think that police corruption, which is the focus of this reform, is not a large part of the drug cartels' influence with the police forces there, then you know very little about this subject. Shhhhhhh.
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bansheewail:
The problem is terrible human greed and the need to be angry and abusive that make things worse. The access to guns isn't a cause of a problem that didn't already exist.
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bansheewail:
Like hawk5000 said, American consumption is basically a force of nature, it can't be matched.
While this is very good news for me trip to Tijuana today, trust me, police corruption will not be affected at all...
they will find another reason to try to steal money from you, if
you don't defend your rights, they will take advantage of you. - 3 years ago
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