Crowley had 8 prior racial bias complaints
source: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/20465427/detail.html
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samthesixth
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How current could put this story, with this headline on tv is beyond me. The headline is wrong. Look into the matter and you will see the officer does not have 8 prior complaints based on race. Why will some do anything to hide this administration's mistakes?
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iamaman
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samthesixth:
what administration? what Mistake?
be specific. cowards hide behind generalizations.
Edit:oh you mean being "picked for tv" with that title. i see you point now.
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iamaman
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nanac
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I weep for this Country , because I believe that the Constitution has been torn to treads by the people on the right....It seems to be more important to win an argument than represent the truth, stand up for justice, love thy neighbor, and not make false statements against thy neighbors..........Together we stand,...............Divided we fall
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nanac
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nanac
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If you are White, and you are always on the side of the police, you are racist....Most Caucasian Americans are the descendants of murderers, thieves, rapist, and the law breakers of society....In the early development of this Country, The Aristocrats used the down trodden to build this magnificent Country.....Most African Americans are law abiding citizens, on the other hand, cops frequently break the law..................I know, because I use to work with cops..........Those without sin, cast the first stone!..........Together we stand,,Divided we fall...................
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"Prime example of media bias."
Yeah CNN is always criticize for being too conservative... I love the idea that conspiracy theories now could as non-biased reporting.
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mojojuju
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"Yep, one of the complainers was CLEARLY "pulling a Gates" when he was pulled over after fitting a vague discription of "black man""
Where does it say that the driver fit a "vague" description?
I read the article which said the driver "matched the suspect of a black man wanted for a video store robbery."
That doesn't say anything about there only being a vague description. Perhaps the description included things like what the robber was wearing, what kind of car he was driving, body size, facial hair, etc...
The article doesn't tell the full description that Crowley matched the suspect to.
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iamaman
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mojojuju:
"The article doesn't tell the full description that Crowley matched the suspect to."
then i guess there should be no reason to include it in the article.
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iamaman
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Boooo!
I am an upset audience member. I say boo, boo to this whole situation as it has been played out in our media, boo to this article and all other articles on this topic, boo to most of the posts on this topic (including this one)... Boo. I payed a lot for a front row seat to an intellectual and meaningful discussion on race relations in this country and all I've gotten is a bunch of commercials, groups of idiots jumping up and down screaming prepared talking points at each other, unsubstantiated claims, elitist bravado, and a shitload of sensationalism! I'm going home now, and I'm taking my new found lack of respect for individuals on both sides of this issue with me. I hope this played out, tired ass script gets a rewrite before the inevitable remake.
Booooooo. - 2 years ago
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iamaman
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sirpaulmcdarkney:
what makes this thread so upsetting?
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iamaman
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Complaints are not convictions. When someone someone is accused of something and they get it thrown out for whatever reason they can't still be prosecuted for it and it's wrong to attach to them that stigma them. And besides the entire occurrence was recorded and there was an African American cop with him who did not agree with the allegations.
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iamaman
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Mariyoshi:
your right complaints are not convictions, but they could lead to one. someone has to complain if they want justice.
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iamaman
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Current needs some quality control. These misleading and false article titles are getting annoying. Seems that people vote on stories on the basis of their titles rather than the actual content of the stories.
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iamaman
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numinant:
well if it brings lite to any kind of abuse of authority than i dont mind even if the intent was to incorrectly focus on the race issue. thats why it is important to express your opinion when you have one, even if it means making one to police internal affairs.
the article was "spin".
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iamaman
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kryssi51
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awww jeez, and so it begins again.
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bailey78
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It's all abunch of bullshit to begin with.
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iamaman
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-Racial profiling is the inclusion of racial or ethnic characteristics in determining whether a person is considered likely to commit a particular type of crime or an illegal act or to behave in a "predictable" manner. It is often confused with the more comprehensive Offender Profiling (wikipedia)
racial profiling is prejudicial and only became more recognized after 911. for years prior, minorities have been complaining about being singled out of a group of speeding cars by the mere fact police are allowed to pratice the tactic.
anyone who advocates racial profiling advocates prejudicial behavior.
this time the prejudice was between cop and citizen.
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bc_f:
yup, his smugness is not helping the boston PD. that is most likely why the story came out at all. to make him look better. that is most likely why they did not print the other complaints, because he IS a major douche bag.
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iamaman
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lj111
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THE TRUTH IS USUALLY REVEALED IN THESE CASES...
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JohnA
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8 crackheads whine "that cop arrested me 'cause I'm black" and we're supposed to believe them? He still has his job, so obviously there was nothing to the "complaints".
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JohnA:
You are obviously less literate than those "crack heads". Read the article and know that only 2 of those were racially based complaints.
There have been abuses of authority against white men, women, and children by policeman that have been dismissed without the cop losing his job. Those were "obviously nothing" too right?
One of those "crack heads" states- "As a young African-American male, I am especially concerned by the lack of restraint the officers demonstrated in this situation," wrote the driver. I am curious if the description of 'black male' immediately suspends the rights of all brown skinned individuals within a 10-block radius.'' - Typical CRACK HEAD just like Gates
Ignorance is bliss, so I wish you a HAPPY afternoon!
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Every other black man who gets arrested states that the PO-lice are out to get them just because they are black... not because of the sack of cocaine in their pocket. Thats like every situation you see on cops. Its no surprise there were at least two complaints against this guy, he just doesn't take no shit from anybody, plus it was TWO complaints in the 10 plus years he's been doing this shit. give it a rest already, the media is a hock of shit
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wankityspank:
You are so enlightened. And 'PO-lice'...that was a brilliant representation of a darky. Your knowledge of those blacks is truly extensive..I mean all you have to do is watch Cops right and you have it figured out...blacks are crack heads and whites are trailer trash... why didn't I see that before now!
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iamaman
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wankityspank:
for every complaint there is probably another incident that did not get reported due to the lack of confidence, by minorities, in our judicial system.
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wankityspank:
definitely a good point imaman, but i think for every one complaint there are SEVERAL from ALL races because of lack of confidence in and fear of the police. As many have pointed out the large number of taser and trigger happy and power hungry policemen negate the good work of the great cops who work to make America safer. I have so many stories, one of which I shared in another comment, that I have either personally been involved in, witnessed, or been told of by reliable friends and family (of multiple races, I feel I have to add) of police abuses of power. As far as I know, none have filed complaints.
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BTW, I wonder how many African-American policemen have racial complaints against them for being 'Uncle Toms' or 'Oreos'???
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nursediesel:
i doubt very much, if at all.
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nursediesel:
It is a legitimate question, though I doubt that terminology would be used. Self-hate is rampant in MOST marginalized cultures and it would not be uncommon for a black policeman to try to be a Good Ole Boy and abuse a weaker person of his own race.
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nursediesel:
well if "nurseratchet" were a black police man i would give her statement A LOT more credibility.
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this is all very ironic. anyone without a working brain would look at the title and gasp. "Oh my! 8 complaints!!! what a doucher!" but once you know that these complaints were spread over 11 years and that only 2 of them were "race based" complaints... you start to ask "who cares?" talk about your media bias. by not reading the article you yourself have biased this man and portrayed him in an unfair manner. of course... he is a cop. i'm biased against cops already. oh well, to hell with it. im gunna go grab a snickers, refresh myself with a coke, and plop my ass down in front of 'how i met your mother', and in the process, become a real american. not that fake kind who enjoys freedom and questions the government. **mouth full** more fnickerf! more fnickerffff!!!
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Alex_French:
bill hicks punchline stealer.
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curtisreed
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AND ALL THE GENEROUS SUPPORT FROM BLACK COWORKERS MEANS NOTHING....!?!?!?!?!
INSTEAD WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE 8 COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE LIKE...WELL, LIKE THE RACIST PROFESSOR GAITS?
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curtisreed:
And the head line here is wrong, too. It was two racial complaints. Not 8!
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curtisreed:
She's right, people need to read the article; it was only two racially based complaints. They did, in my opinion,seem legitimate though. The officer had black defenders and a little known fact is that Gates has been married to two white women and has several white colleagues, friends, and even family members. Much of his geneology research focuses on race in an effort to dispel race myths and bring all of us together. Neither one of them are probably the evil racists they are painted to be...what is more likely is that they are both victims of the prejudices and stereotypes ingrained in the majority of Americans (black, white, red, and other) even well meaning ones. Wrong is still wrong, however.
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This is a FAIL. His record is remarkably clean considering how many people are quick to complain against cops. Only two were racially motivated and none of the eight were verified.
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I honestly think that Crowley had his tetosterone flare when Gates did not act like most people of all colors and behave subservient and meekly.
Both of them could have acted much better and there would have been no incident.
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carmalite:
How is one "supposed" to act in one's own home?
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carmalite:
The officer did not go to the house to intimidate Gates, he went there to protect Gates' home. The man acted like an asshole. The ride downtown was to settle the man down he was screaming and freaking out, because the cop didn't know who he was (some rich, liberal proffessor that had friends in high places)
His college ID didn't have an address on it .
When people act the way Gates did and they don't calm down they can't just leave them there freaking out.
Hell. he could have had a coronary. Then we'd be fighting that they left him there freaking out because he was black and it's the cops fault he died of a heart attack.
Black's have a higher risk of coronaries because of the higher rate of hypertention.
Enough is enough, zufeil ist zufeil! - 2 years ago
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iamaman
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carmalite:
Racial profiling is the inclusion of racial or ethnic characteristics in determining whether a person is considered likely to commit a particular type of crime or an illegal act or to behave in a "predictable" manner. It is often confused with the more comprehensive Offender Profiling (wikipedia)
racial profiling is prejudicial and only became more recognized after 911. for years prior, minorities have been complaining about being singled out of a group of speeding cars by the mere fact police are allowed to pratice the tactic.
anyone who advocates racial profiling advocates prejudicial behavior.
this time the prejudice was between cop and citizen.
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iamaman
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Oh wow, with two racially motivated complaints in eleven years Crowley is either not a bigot or the laziest, racist cop on the planet.
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eldamon
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Why do people insist on making this black and white. It was just a poorly handled call by a cop that misread the situation. He may be a great policeman or a racist bastard, who knows? But in this case he all he had to do was say "sorry for the confusion" and walk the hell out of the man's house.
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eldamon:
i doubt crowley will be getting any advancements in rank any time soon. he created a PR disaster.
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iamaman
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GodsnLiberals
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I bet the "black" guy have more than this guy..
its worse when you think you are not a racist because your black..
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GodsnLiberals:
No, it's worse when you think racism doesn't exist because you're privileged, white, black, Asian, Arabic, or all combination of the five.
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GodsnLiberals:
its worse when you think you are not a racist because you are poor and ignorant.
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OK, so in previous cases, cops were looking for a black suspect - one one files charges that being a black man and being stopped? Hmm, was he supposed to stop a white man just to be fair? The race card is becoming so trite - its beyond ridiculous...
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samthesixth
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The headline is wrong!
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onemalefla:
Ouch! Nothing became of these peoples complaints either.... Don't think that makes you feel any better lol
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onemalefla:
internal affairs takes all complaints seriously when there is clear evidence of a rouge cop. they might not admit it but they do.
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This is not a story at all, its crap. STFU already.
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Of the two alleged racial incidents the calling an African-American "homeboy' was uncalled for.
But the detaining someone because he fit the description of a robbery suspect is within his job description.
I've been stopped by police on different occasions and yes, some cops seem rude when they are without humor and business like. Some people are business-like and matter-of-fact all the time.
I've worked with and known people that cry wolf in situations to get out of the situation and create a diversion when they themsef are in the wrong. It's wrong and it hurts those that actually experience the things they allege.
Sounds to me like he's not been accused of racism that would warrent al the hoopla the headline wants us to make. - 2 years ago
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nursediesel:
How many times have the cops come into YOUR HOME and disrespected you?
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nursediesel:
Nurse, I want to tell you about an experience I had but not on the board. The guy was definitely either psyco and I am glad it was on a busy road with lots of cars going by.
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nursediesel:
Actually, one time. It was very inappropriate and was in front of my daughter who started hollering at the policeman. I had to sit on her to shut her up or it would have gotten ugly.
A close friend of hers was at our house. Her mom and her were having some difficult times between them and mom's live-in boyfriend.
She came over to our house to vent and get her head straight. After talking with her boyfriend the mom called the police and exaggerated the circumstances to have the daughter removed to juvie.
The police knocked on my door and asked for this 14 y.o. girl, who was already crying from the mean things her mom and boyfriend said to her.
They proceeded to handcuff this child, and I stepped in and said, "is that really necessary?" And I was quick dressed down verbally and that got my 13 y.o. very upset. She took offense at his verbal threat to me that if I stepped into the situation again they'd have to cuff me. Whoa!
I'm not sure what the mom told city hall but it was way over blown. I felt helpless for the poor kid. I couldn't stop them from taking her.God only knows what could have happen to the her. She wasn't a bad kid just questioning some of the stuff that was going on at home.
If I hadn't calmed my daughter down she'd have been whisked off, too.
Her mother later appologised to her daughter and to us for overrecting and no longer is with that crazy manipulative boyfriend. - 2 years ago
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nursediesel:
That must have been quite the ordeal. Not to take anything way from your experience but consider Prof Gates was one lone elderly person in his own home. Not really seeing the need for cuffs or police action there.
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nursediesel:
if he was just an average person none of this malpractice of justice would have been exposed on the media.
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onemalefla:
thats why the article was PR "Spin".
i wanted to see the rest also, they might have shown a problem with anger management or abusive conduct to even whites.. - 2 years ago
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eldamon
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It's not that serious, "Barney Fife" just got bent out of shape because he wasn't getting his ass kissed sufficiently. He completed mishandled the situation and deserves all the grief, and more he gets.
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Ok, I might get flamed for this but who's to say that the people who complained "Racial Bias" weren't just pulling the race card... and were just guilty punks who can't take responsibility for their own actions and thus blame the establishment... I know, it's unheard of, but it's a possibility.
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MikeofLA:
How about reading the story first, THEN making a snap judgement?
God forbid the white cop EVER being wrong about ANYTHING... [/sarcasm]
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MikeofLA:
Its a probability not a possibility. In N.O. the police often beat the *********** out of poor whites and Blacks. Recently one even beat up a lady bartender and it was on the bars security camera.. He was having off duty fun. He is not even doing jail time...........if he had been an ordinary citizen, he would be doing time for assult and battery.
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MikeofLA:
Yep, one of the complainers was CLEARLY "pulling a Gates" when he was pulled over after fitting a vague discription of "black man"-- "As a young African-American male, I am especially concerned by the lack of restraint the officers demonstrated in this situation," wrote the driver. I am curious if the description of 'black male' immediately suspends the rights of all brown skinned individuals within a 10-block radius.''Those blacks and their race cards. This also happened to my fiance who was pulled out of his car by the police with a gun pointed at his back. His 3 YEAR OLD nephew was in the back seat and Dora the Explorer sing-a-long was pumping in the stereo (typical Black Thug), His cute nephew probably fit the discription of "black male accomplice" lol. He didn't "pull a Gates" though...just took being marginalized and stereotyped, swallowed it and went home like 99% of us do when BS happens.
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8 complaints, 2 were racially biased.
Plus the incident with Gates.Maybe he doesn't HATE black people, but he probably doesn't like them very much. That, and it seems like he pissed off at least one person a year.
That's actually pretty low considering how many cops tazer people and piss off whole communities.
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lifestudentno83:
Hey I think that's a pretty tough accusation to level against a guy we don't even know. With the amount of bias in the media outlets and stuff I think we should hold off on passing judgment as we can never really know.
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lifestudentno83:
I'm not accusing him of anything. I just said he probably doesn't like black people that much.
Do you think all police officers like black people? Perhaps they just look down on them because of police stereotypes, and instead of beating, shooting, and arresting them have a secret desire to hold their hands and sing "We Are The World"?
I get it. They only do it to keep up appearances of racial bias in the media.
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lifestudentno83:
well, unfortunately, it had to take the O>J> trial to expose Mark Fuhrmen's (LAPD detective) true identity as a racist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fuhrman
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"During cross-examination, Fuhrman, when asked by defense attorney F. Lee Bailey whether he had used the word "nigger," said he hadn't used the word in ten years. The defense produced four witnesses to establish that Fuhrman had used the word "nigger" nine and one half years previously; as well as an audiotape contradicting his testimony. This testimony eventually resulted in a perjury conviction. In one 1985 recording, Fuhrman gave a taped interview to Laura Hart McKinny, a writer working on a screenplay about female police officers. In another interview, Fuhrman talked about gang members and was quoted as saying, "Yeah we work with niggers and gangs. You can take one of these niggers, drag 'em into the alley and beat the shit out of them and kick them. You can see them twitch. It really relieves your tension." He went on to say "we had them begging that they'd never be gang members again, begging us." He said that he would tell them, "You do what you're told, understand, nigger?"[3]
Only limited excerpts of the tapes were admitted as evidence in the Simpson trial, but the content of the admitted portions were strong enough to cast doubt on Fuhrman's motives and credibility with the jury.
With the jury absent on September 6, 1995, the defense asked Fuhrman whether or not he had ever falsified police reports or if he had planted or manufactured evidence in the Simpson case. He invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination."
that caused the reasonable doubt for most of us. not the fact that he used the "n" word.
cops are not super heroes.
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Yeah...plus they could have just been pulling a Gates lol
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ProjectBat:
Yep, one of the complainers was CLEARLY "pulling a Gates" when he was pulled over after fitting a vague discription of "black man"-- "As a young African-American male, I am especially concerned by the lack of restraint the officers demonstrated in this situation," wrote the driver. I am curious if the description of 'black male' immediately suspends the rights of all brown skinned individuals within a 10-block radius.''
Those blacks and their race cards. This also happened to my fiance who was pulled out of his car by the police with a gun pointed at his back. His 3 YEAR OLD nephew was in the back seat and Dora the Explorer sing-a-long was pumping in the stereo (typical Black Thug), His cute nephew probably fit the discription of "black male accomplice" lol. He didn't "pull a Gates" though...just took being marginalized and stereotyped, swallowed it and went home like 99% of us do when BS happens. - 2 years ago
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ProjectBat:
i dont think you've swallowed it all, you seem to have spilled some on to the internet...
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ProjectBat:
Haha, read the comment...never said I 'swallowed' anything..I said my fiance did. Well, I guess I swallowed by not filing a formal complaint for him. I realized that nothing would come of it; just like nothing came from those complaints filed by blacks AND whites.
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ProjectBat:
it creates a track record so its unfortunate he did not file one. the more a person gets away with abusing someone elses rights, the more they think they were justified by their victim's compliance.
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This title is a lie. He had 8 previous complaints, 2 of which were "racial bias". Read the freaking article! I think 8 complaints in 11 years is not so bad.
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Only 8 citizen complaints, which represents less than 1 percent of his interactions with the public, doesn't seem that bad.
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Really? Most people have NO compalints.
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And most people do not deal with the public under the circumstances that police officers do.
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police officers represent authority. that means they represent the laws we all (try to) abide by.whenever police abuse that authority it diminishes the respect people have for law.
this article is spin from the boston PD and boston media
""It is noteworthy that despite Sergeant Crowley's numerous arrests and citations, only eight citizen complaints have been filed against him, which represents less than 1 per cent of his interactions with the public,'' Cambridge police Commissioner Robert Haas said in a letter that accompanied the release of the records.
i dont thnk it was racial as much as it was Crowley being culturally insensitive and abusing his authority. every police officer who read the arrest report should know that the charge for the arrest was more than weak and would be thrown out and dismmissed as soon as a DA looked at it. cops usually do this when they just want to "inconveniece" someone back. it was real ignorant of him to be culturally incensitive to a black history professor that is a celebrity and an associat of Oprah.
this is not an example of racial profiling.
"In another complaint filed in 2002, a driver and a friend claimed that Crowley wrongly detained them because one matched the suspect of a black man wanted for a video store robbery."
'As a young African-American male, I am especially concerned by the lack of restraint the officers demonstrated in this situation," wrote the driver. "I am curious if the description of 'black male' immediately suspends the rights of all brown skinned individuals within a 10-block radius.'
-Racial profiling is the inclusion of racial or ethnic characteristics in determining whether a person is considered likely to commit a particular type of crime or an illegal act or to behave in a "predictable" manner. It is often confused with the more comprehensive Offender Profiling (wikipedia)
racial profiling is prejudicial and only became more recognized after 911. for years prior, minorities have been complaining about being singled out of a group of speeding cars by the mere fact police are allowed to pratice the tactic.
anyone who advocates racial profiling advocates prejudicial behavior.
this time the prejudice was between cop and citizen.
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its clear that he gets his panties in a bunch the moment someone questions his authority.
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