Our Sons Plundered for Their Organs

Here RT posted a video
http://www.russiatoday.com/Best_Videos/2009-08-28/organ-trade-israel-family.html

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But linking this affair with the misconduct of the armed forces of Israel was an ugly and unacceptable analogy which the editors of “Aftonbladet” should have avoided. Still, there was no need for the Netanyahu Government to blow it up to a head-on confrontation between the two countries. Indeed, the leaders of the Jewish community in Sweden were far from pleased with the Israeli overreaction. But the Israeli government did not act out of concern for them. It had its own specific agenda for making the maximum noise.

Almost from the first day he assumed power, Netanyahu is under constant pressure from President Barack Obama to cease all settlement activity in the occupied territories. The fanatic hardliners in his cabinet call for Israel to defy all pressures, continue and extend the building of Jewish settlements and tell the Americans to go to hell. Deep in his heart Netanyahu might sympathize – but he knows well enough that such a course would be suicidal, and that it would be Israel which would get to hell in short order. Sweden is a convenient alternative target, which could be attacked with relative impunity. Moreover, Sweden – having the Presidency of European Union – has itself quite recently lodged a strong protest about the settlements and the expulsion of Palestinian families from their homes is the Sheikh Jarah Neighbourhood in East Jerusalem. It makes perfect sense for Netanyahu to try and put the Swedish government on the defensive.

The row also helps to divert the criticism on Netanyahu from inside his government coalition. Israel’s historically-loaden ambivalent relation to Europe is a Pandora box easily opened.

On the one hand, Israelis like to think of themselves as belonging to Europe; on the other hand when encountering criticism, wild accusations of antisemitism immediately fly around and the history of the Second World War and the Holocaust is very selectively referenced.

Israelis are delighted that their country was admitted to the European Song Festival and that their football and basketball teams can participate in European championships. But the same people would not opt for Israel becoming subject to the authority of the European Human Rights Court in Strasbourg, and to have that court give the actions of the Israeli armed forces the kind of scrutiny it gave to the British army in North Ireland.

In today’s Europe it is taken for granted that a democratic state is, by definition, “The State of All Its Citizens”. The Israeli mainstream would like Israel to be accepted as a European State while rejecting any such definition and insisting that “A State of All Its Citizens” is a subversive and extremist idea where Israel is concerned.

The present confrontation with Sweden is the latest – and probably not the last – of such cases.

Written at the invitation of the Swedish weekly ‘Efter Arbetet’ for its Aug. 28 edition

this is interesting:

Netanyahu’s Swedish theatre and the reality of the occupation
By Adam Keller

For days the Israeli political establishment and mainstream media engaged in an unrestrained campaign of demonization of Sweden. Only after having already castigated Swedes as “antisemites” did mass circulation newspaper Yediot Aharonot take the elementary journalistic step of sending a reporter to check the facts. Ronny Shaked’s Aug. 24 article revealed no organ harvesting horror – but showed quite clearly how such a story could emerge from the grim occupation reality.

It is an old story, going back seventeen years, the story of a young man named Bilal Ahmad Ghanem from the small West Bank village of Amatin. Ghanem was one of those which official Israel castigates as terrorists and their own people praise as freedom fighters. In the early 1990’s he figured on the Israeli “wanted” list.

In May 1992 Israel was in the midst of a crucial elections campaign. Opposition leader Yitzchak Rabin was asking for the voters’ mandate on a pledge to make peace with the Palestinians – a pledge he would eventually seriously try to implement and for which he would pay with his own life three and a half years later. All of that was part of a future, which Bilal Ahmad Ghanem would not live to see. On the night of May 13, 1992, Israeli hunters ambushed him outside his parents’ home, and killed him on the spot with a bullet directly to the heart. This in itself excludes the possibility that Ghanem’s organs were used for transplantation. It is an elementary medical fact that organs are taken from brain-dead patients whose heart is still beating.

There was not, and could not have been, a “harvesting of organs”. But it is true that Ghanem’s body was taken away, restored to the family only after a week, in which it evidently was subjected to an autopsy, to which the family did not consent nor was asked for consent. (In Israel itself, an autopsy is only performed with the consent of the family or by court order, but such rules do not apply in military-ruled territory). When at last the body was given back, the family was shocked to see a scar running from his neck down to his abdomen. They were not given much time to speculate, and nobody was there to answer questions. Soldiers on the spot urged them to get on with the funeral and disperse to their homes. A Swedish journalist made some photos of Ghanem’s scarred body – arousing the ire of the soldiers, who promptly confiscated his camera. But he had managed to extract the film and throw it among the bushes. On the following day he returned, recovered the photos and recorded the angry and pained reactions of Ghanem’s mother, who could not be expected to know or care about medical facts and the conditions where organ transplanting is or is not possible.

The photos and report were published in 1992 Sweden, without getting much attention. They were included as one of many items in an 2001 book on the situation in the Occupied Territories, to whose publication the Government of Sweden apparently contributed though it was unlikely to have closely and minutely supervised its contents. Again, not many people noticed or paid attention. And now it has surfaced again and became – seventeen years after the fact – the center of a raging storm.

Why resurrect this affair at exactly this time? Possibly because the mass killing of civilians in the recent Gaza war, which is an undoubted fact, has made also implausible Israeli atrocities seem plausible. But even so, a newspaper should have carefully checked its facts, and any doctor could have told them that this particular accusation could not be true. There had been a month ago an ugly case of illicit trade in organs for transplantation, in which the American citizens implicated happened to be Jewish. But linking this affair with the misconduct of the armed forces of Israel was an ugly and unacceptable analogy which the editors of “Aftonbladet” should ----continued

Monsters do live among us, truly sick....

This is the sickest most disturbing thing I've heard, of Hitler proportions. Why aren't these people being prosecuted for these sick, greedy, animalistic war crimes. This makes me sick to my stomach, I never want to hear another Jewish person bring up the Holocaust until this stops. Hypocrisy !!

The government of Israel could clear this up very easily.

All that has to be done is exhume the bodies of the Arab victims who where murdered by the IDF and then sent back in the dead of night and ordered to be buried.

If the organs are still there then this is a ligitimate case of "blood libel" against the Jewish state.

If the organs are not there then our worse nightmares are confirmed: real monsters do live among us humans and something must be done to eradicate this evil.

The only problem is that I think that this may be against Muslim laws and customs.

They would regret stealing my parts.

"...a pound of flesh!"

Why is there a photo of autopsy?

How is this any worse than Hamas or the Al Aqsa Martyr Brigade paying a family for a son or daughter to blow themselves up with some Israelis?

Oh well what the hell ...

Ghouls, ghouls and more ghouls. One day they may advertise like Kidneys Inc. or Body parts for sale. the end results are disgusting. If you are a organ donor it isnt safe to venture near a doctors office or a hospital. And Doctor Mengele was called the butcher of Lyon. What do we call these business people?

This rumor-mongering is reprehensible. Of course the army sews up bodies after autopsy -- would you prefer they leave the skin open so the contents can spill on the ground? There's *zero* evidence in this thread for this anti-semitic b.s. Yes, the man brokered organ purchases. Has it ever occurred to you libelers that he did so in order to prolong life -- because there's no other way for a person who needs an organ to get one? Each day in the U.S., 14 people die waiting for an organ. What are you doing about that, exactly? There's no need to steal organs, or take them from Palestinians. Plenty of people sell them. Big deal. The only reason this black market exists is because people like Dr. Delmonico (not 'Delmonici') work to prevent such organs from becoming available in a regulated way to those who are desperate.

“No one told me, not even Palestinian families, that the Israel army took organs from their sons. The army just returned sewed up bodies after autopsy and that raises questions,” says Swedish journalist Donald Bostrom.

http://www.rt.tv/Top_News/2009-08-26/organs-trade-palestinian-israel.html?fullst... (W/VID)

Clearly these actions of selling and biying organs is wrong. However, think about how many lives were saved by his illegal actions. Granted I would like to know how many patients died to save another life.

Don't be discouraged if your an organ donor, because the lives you might save would be worth more then your own someday.

Ewww, I just want to puke

There is some truth to this, but I am not 100% convinced.....yet. I've withheld on this story long enough.

But looking at and connecting the FBI arrest of these Rabbis in NYC for selling human organs and them sending the money to Israel, there seems to be a connection indeed.

This story is getting bigger for sure. But lets not pass judgment so quick! More info will follow since the courts in NY have taken over.

“A Jew is entitled to extract the liver from a goy if he needs it, for the life of a Jew is more valuable than the life of a goy. Likewise, the life of a goy is more valuable than the life of an animal,” – Rabbi Yitzhak Ginzberg.

goy |goi|
noun ( pl. goyim |ˈgoi-im|or goys ) informal often offensive, a Jewish name for a non-Jew.

Source: daily.pk
http://www.daily.pk/when-the-truth-becomes-%E2%80%98anti-semitism%E2%80%99-9494/

Disgusting.

these are diffenetly caused by havesting. I have seen it before. I hope Isreal is braught up war crimes. If you can procecute a man 60 years after a war. Then why aren't they proceuting these bastards that kill babys and harvesting body parts. there has already been procicutions in New york buy Rabbis that here harvesting body parts for other Jews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmCtAkPLikw

What is going to be next of these innocent people that are haveing their body parts harvesting.

TELL ME WhY syaing Jew is anti Simictic? It is just like daying Muslim, Christian, buddist, ECT. Why so defennsive. Go ahead and call me ATHEIST! I WILL NOT BE OFFENDED!

Thats just cold. Death to the body snachers!

The truth is anti-Semitic

"While the campaign was running, young Palestinian men started to disappear from villages in the West Bank and Gaza. After five days Israeli soldiers would bring them back dead, with their bodies ripped open."

What is this world come to?

black market organs in the united states?! holy macaroni things are screwy.!