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Obese people have 'severe brain degeneration'

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A new study finds obese people have 8 percent less brain tissue than normal-weight individuals. Their brains look 16 years older than the brains of lean individuals, researchers said today.

Those classified as overweight have 4 percent less brain tissue and their brains appear to have aged prematurely by 8 years.

The results, based on brain scans of 94 people in their 70s, represent "severe brain degeneration," said Paul Thompson, senior author of the study and a UCLA professor of neurology.

"That's a big loss of tissue and it depletes your cognitive reserves, putting you at much greater risk of Alzheimer's and other diseases that attack the brain," said Thompson. "But you can greatly reduce your risk for Alzheimer's, if you can eat healthily and keep your weight under control."

The findings are detailed in the online edition of the journal Human Brain Mapping.

Obesity packs many negative health effects, including increased risk of heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, hypertension and some cancers. It's also been shown to reduce sexual activity.

More than 300 million worldwide are now classified as obese, according to the World Health Organization. Another billion are overweight. The main cause, experts say: bad diet, including an increased reliance on highly processed foods.

Obese people had lost brain tissue in the frontal and temporal lobes, areas of the brain critical for planning and memory, and in the anterior cingulate gyrus (attention and executive functions), hippocampus (long-term memory) and basal ganglia (movement), the researchers said in a statement today. Overweight people showed brain loss in the basal ganglia, the corona radiata, white matter comprised of axons, and the parietal lobe (sensory lobe).
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  • rubycon40
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • My theory is , they crave fats , because they need essential fatty acids for their brains . The brain is mostly fat . Eating bad fats does not support the brain , it does the reverse . EFAs are not easily absorbed under the best conditions . Most people do not know how to get them or what foods to eat anyways . Very sad .

    • 2 years ago
  • RojoGatto
  • cynker
  • asthmaticgrapefruitclinton
  • lilysol
  • Gravity_Man
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • Gravity_Man
  • ZinaS
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      ZinaS  
    • The CDC estimates that the Obesity epidemic cost the US about $147,000,000,000. That's about $490 for each of us, not to mention the 40 million in lost days of productivity or seats on the bus...

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • ZinaS:

      Good comments ZinaS! Actually, there should not even be an Obesity Epidemic. The United States military diet makes soldiers slim and yet they pile butter on their food. The military knows how to stop it.

      The military has always known how to stop obesity.

    • 2 years ago
  • tonkabeans
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      tonkabeans  
    • ZinaS:

      I've read that in order to keep your weight under control one needs to walk about 10,000 steps a day. That turns out to be about 5 miles for the average height person. Do you think anyone is doing that when you can just as easily jump in your car and drive half a mile for a pint of ice cream?

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • ZinaS:

      Ice Cream is a fast track to diabetes and will put a thin person into diabetes too, not just fat people. You can violate these rules if you go overboard into proper nutrition to balance the bad choices. You don't have to become the Bulletproof Monk of Abstinence. You do have to find balance or you fall off the beam.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • ZinaS:

      Tonkabeans one big reason American's health is bottoming out is we don't have to deal with natural temperature fluctuations as we once did. The invention of air conditioners, car air conditioners and home heatpumps has removed the physical up & down we need for maintaining inner strength.

      It could be easily corrected though. Let's say your computer room was in the basement. You could set a new wall partition between your computer room and the water heater, then place a small window unit air conditioner in that new wall partition, right? It would pull heat away from the computer room and exhaust it into the side of the basement with the water heater, taking some electrical load off the water heater element.

      Then when you leave the colder computer room and walk through the heated area you would be introducing a fluctuation that would put a workload (that is now missing) back into everyone's life. Every hour take a 5 minute break from the computer and go into the heated side, do some squat thrusts or jumping jacks. People could get their strength back, and along with that strength lose some weight and ramp up their Immune System to be able to fight off simple cold and flu viruses.

      Mall walkers could walk outside a while then walk inside the Mall a while. There are a number of variations that beat heck out of climbing 10,000 steps up stairs a day. We invented escalators and elevators to stomp out stuff like that long ago.

    • 2 years ago
  • Rosenquartz
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      Rosenquartz  
    • I'm disappointed with the quality of commenter on Current now. I go away for a little and the site seems over run by those who post without reading the article.

      If you have a problem with fat people that's fine but keep it to your self. I'm sure no one here wants to be hounded for the choices they made in life good or bad.

      Besides based solely off of the pool of people they used for this study, 94 overweight 70 year olds I would say this is inconclusive. To make a statement like this you have to take much larger more varied samples.

    • 2 years ago
  • thedez
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      thedez  
    • Rosenquartz:

      I agree with you Rosenquartz and and sudden wave of folks hating of fat people on this thread. To paraphare Eminem's Rain Man: I find you offensive for finding me offensive.

    • 2 years ago
  • SDLN
  • TheBrownKid
  • lilysol
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      lilysol  
    • TheBrownKid:

      yep, it does seem that the research dollars could be better served elsewhere....

      On the other hand, people have been predicting and wondering about the end of humanity for centuries..

      This widespread obesity is looking more and more like de-evolution...maybe we eat ourselves into extinction while other continents die from food shortages?

    • 2 years ago
  • thewallisgirl
  • locutus
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      locutus [removed]  
    • Only thing worse than fat people are the pathetic losers who need to make themselves feel better by talking trash about fat people.

      Guess that makes me the winner.

    • 2 years ago
  • Mobius2012
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      Mobius2012  
    • Being fat is the least of our problems... We still haven't fully accepted the existence of life in other galaxies and on other planets! HAHAHA WOW, WE ARE F#^$k*^!!!!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • QuestionGeek
  • dlester
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      dlester  
    • Far be it from me to doubt any of this, but just where did the people performing this study find so many obese people over the age of 70? Obese people don't typically live that long.

    • 2 years ago
  • FireEyedBoy
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      FireEyedBoy  
    • very interesting parallel here... Americans are overweight and stupid hmmmmm. It would be quite the thing if fast food companies would just CLOSE!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • Mobius2012
  • lilysol
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      lilysol  
    • QuestionGeek- The thyroid problem doesn't cause them to not feel full, I believe that is a neurological/brain problem. People with undiagnosed Hypothyroidism, an autoimmune disease that causes a person's metabolic functions to slow down severely and their energy level to be very depleted, do gain weight. I think there are also parathyroid issues that lead to weight gain.

      Once diagnosed, though, people with thyroid disease can get medicine that pretty much brings their thyroid levels back to normal. That's what I did when I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism in 2006. My weight went up, but not significantly because I was ALREADY working out, eating healthy foods, and walking instead of taking the car just to go around the corner.

      My thyroid will never work again, I often get more tired than I used to, I will have to take medicine for the rest of my life, and can no longer enjoy my late night snacks, but I'm a size 4/5, and I completed my first marathon (all 26.2 miles of it) last May. 3:58:32 baby! (Hopefully I don't sound like a douche, but I'm proud of myself lol).

      Some of the mean-spirited comments are inaccurate because there are also 'skinny' people who are unhealthy and equally burdensome to our healthcare system, but I understand people's anger/disgust because some obese people's self-victimization causes others to persecute them for lack of a better term.

      Hopefully discoveries like this will inspire people to live a healthier and smarter-in more ways than one.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • lilysol:

      I rejected all the thyroid replacement meds. Synthroid, Levothyroxin, and Unithroid. They didn't work plus put a big burden on my Immune System as if they were poisoning me. I started taking great nutrition products, one in particular called Oxy-Nectar, and quit the thyroid pills altogether 3+ years ago.

      Despite the doctors all telling me if I quit taking them I wold surely die I'm still here, and I surmise that all the positive nutrients gave my body the ability to generate improved thyroid tissue.

      Perhaps your being a much smaller person allows you to not feel the rejection symptoms near as much as I did. I'm a big guy at 270, broad shoulders and big bones, but my bodyweight has been this weight for over 20 years. I recently lost some weight by increasing my sources of CLA (conjugated linoleic acid). Google it and you'll find out we started getting less CLA in the American food supply was when the obesity epidemic began.

      I located a nutrition product from My Supplement Store (MSSO) that's derived from a tree in India called the Guggel tree, right? It changes couch potato hormone into activated thyroid hormone so it has helped raise my Energy level very much.

      Sick people need more nutrition not drug store meds that reduces oxygen in our body. Our Immune System rejecting all laboratory made prescription meds produces a tremendous and steady 24/7 battle so steady that the Immune System is burning up all the extra oxygen in our body.

      That reduced oxygen slows our metabolic rate down to a crawl. That reduced oxygen reaching that fella's brain caused his degenerative brain cell issue. The reason he has given up is because he was smart enough to realize he was caught in a vicious situation and the doctors didn't understand he needed more oxygen (as in an OXYGEN TANK TO INCREASE FAT BURNING).

      American doctors are the most stupid people in the world when it comes to helping fat people because they hold the same prejudices against us as the totally uneducated have. They could for instance issue that heavy man a home hyperbaric chamber that would press more oxygen deep into his body tissues and into the fat.

      That's just one of many therapies they withhold from fat people. The fat people of America are on their own baby and always have been. Once you gain some weight you don't get real help you get jeers and snide remarks and crap.

    • 2 years ago
  • lilysol
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      lilysol  
    • lilysol:

      I'm so sorry to hear about your situation! I was actually thinking of recommending a hyperbaric oxygen chamber... I heard about Guggel; maybe I'll still try it to help with the energy loss. Have you heard of a drug, I believe it's called Armour?

      You'll have to check the spelling, but I believe it's actually pig thyroid hormones. As awful as that sounds they're believed to be a much closer match to humans than all the synthetics. I'm on Levothyroxine, but I've heard amazing things about Armour. It isn't readily prescribed because the manufacturers aren't shoving incentives down doctor's throats and sending doc's on vacations. Also, instead of taking it once a day..I believe it is three times daily because as it's natural it doesn't just sit in your bloodstream for 24hrs. The reason I haven't tried it is because you have to go to the doctor several times in the beginning so that they can monitor adjust the amount they put you on. My insurance doesn't encourage too many visits!

      If you notice, in my previous post I said SOME. It appears that you are well informed and trying to help yourself...it's unfortunate that you don't feel sufficiently helped by western medicine/doctors. Good luck, man. I wish you the best. (Send me a message if you try that Armour)

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • lilysol:

      My doctors stopped trying to help me many years ago but they still liked the Medicare money. I kept going to them for years before realizing what was going on. They had decided amongst themselves that all my medical issues were stemming from being bipolar.

      I quit taking the thyroid pills when it became obvious they were not keeping my body warm. I remained close to hypothermia sometimes so you can forget weightloss. But since I couldn't lose weight I couldn't return to work because I need to get some weight off first. So they had me in a holding pattern where they wanted me, MEDICARE IN THEIR HIP POCKET BY KEEPING ME IN THEIR REVOLVING DOOR.

      They threatened me to keep me in fear (and a returning patient) by telling me if I quit the meds I would die. I quit both, the Lithium first in 2002 and the thyroid do-nothing pills 4 years ago. I seem to have miraculously remained alive.

      I've sworn off the local doctors. They don't get nuthin' from me my Medicare nor my Humana coverage... so I wouldn't be able to get a prescription for Armour. My battle with the doctors is to the death, either my physical death or the DEATH OF THEIR SLIMY MEDICAL PRACTICE EXTORTION.

    • 2 years ago
  • lilysol
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • lilysol:

      Almost. Roanoke Virginia actually. I was trusting this doctor named Steinweg for a year and a half, thinking he was interested in helping me get back to Work, right? So after 18 months going to him I was sitting in his exam room on the exam cot and suddenly it hit me so hard between the eyes he really wasn't trying to help me at all... and I went into a catatonic brain shutdown it hit me so hard.

      All my senses shut off. No sight, no hearing, no heartbeat, nothing. It was real dark in there without any sound. Anyway, I came back and he wasn't in front of me any longer. He had moved to a different chair. He hadn't made a single move to help me. Obviously he thought the whole thing was faked...

      He casually looked down at his watch, says to me "you've been gone 3 minutes". Could've been 3 years I wouldn't have known any different. Yes, I thought it was right shitty too, a doctor faking helping somebody for 18 months when my family was needing my income. That was mid-2002. Since then my 28YO son died from leukemia and I'm still not back to work and won't be. The doctors put me off, lost me too much time.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • lilysol:

      The big majority of healing I have had has been from searching out nutrition products. I have spent at least $9,000.00 since 2003 out-of-pocket, with help from my other son too. I've had to treat my own self off of online health store shelves. However, there's good from this too. I have finally put together one health tonic drink that does everything.

      Rebuilds muscle. Raises Immune System function. Trims the waistline. Speeds healing. Resistance to diseases. Restores synovial fluid to joints. Everything afflicting people today from the lacking food supply and afflicting people from their doctors not giving them nutrition, this tonic does.

      I haven't yet decided which way to go with it. Right now I'm too involved, about to release a few Gravity Wheels next month => http://tinyurl.com/GravityWheelEnergy and also http://tinyurl.com/ZeroGravityTricks my doctors not treating me took me through every circulatory disease we have. Last year I had 3 anginas in a row (January), followed by my heart coming to a complete stop. Later I had a major heart infarction.

      I gave myself hyperbaric oxygen by inventing methods of self-hyperbarics a few years ago => http://tinyurl.com/6k2wkd so I am able to increase oxygen reaching my heart muscle whenever I feel angina pains.

    • 2 years ago
  • QuestionGeek
  • Mobius2012
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      Mobius2012  
    • ''The results, based on brain scans of 94 people in their 70s'' LOL this doesn't prove anything, brain degeneration begins to occur rapidly in your late 20's LOL regardless of obesity.

    • 2 years ago
  • locutus
  • Eri_Soulja
  • Mobius2012
  • currentlilmexbro
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      currentlilmexbro  
    • yeah hate comments are ridiculously ignorant.

      but i find this interesting because they linked memory loss to overweight people causing a higher risk of alzeihmers.
      so it is said. not proven though i dont think.

    • 2 years ago
  • eldamon
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      eldamon  
    • I seriously don't understand how anyone gets to be 100+ lbs overweight. Don't you start to catch on around 40 or 50 lbs? And will someone please tell me how people too fat to get out of bed or out of their houses get fatter? I absolutely guarantee you will lose weight if you can't get out and you depend on me for sustenance.

    • 2 years ago
  • QuestionGeek
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      QuestionGeek  
    • eldamon:

      eldamon, your last statement was funny. :) Yes it is pretty disgusting that someone could get so fat they can't get out of bed or wash themselves. Nasty. Usually in that case they have an enabler

    • 2 years ago
  • apple_pie
  • bamboobanga007
  • JuiceBug
  • hayden_augustus
  • QuestionGeek
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      QuestionGeek  
    • Do these people deserve single payer health care? After all,their gluttonous piggy asses are intent on making themselves sicker by the minute

    • 2 years ago
  • Darevalo
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • Why don't we just say that if your BMI is above 26 for more than 1 month, you're banished from the United States?

    • 2 years ago
  • Darevalo
  • dariusvons
  • aka6
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      aka6  
    • You know gravity_man, whenever I see one of you posts I can't help but imagine you're some homeless guy stealing wifi from a starbuck or something.

    • 2 years ago
  • rmvb4flght
  • revolutioninamerica
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • aka6:

      Master Po says if you people would just turn the room temperature down a few degrees in your computer room you would lose weight. No one ever listens to Master Po.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • The brain is atop the shoulders, putting it closer to the microwave towers. This will become more apparent when they get around to testing thin people for the same issues. It's all just a roundabout way of sterilizing the population via reduced sex drive impulses from the degraded hippocampus or whatever.

      Nothing to see here move along.

    • 2 years ago
  • stardate
  • thelonemascot
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      thelonemascot  
    • So, fat people supposedly have brain degeneration...because of fat...

      How do they account for those who aren't fat but are barely one step over being mentally handicapped?

      I'm sorry, that was insensitive. I've met several handicapped people smarter than some "normal" people. My apologies, handicapped people.

    • 2 years ago
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • hey that is a good idea..we should tax people accordingly. the rate of taxation is based on how far they get off thier ideal weight..

      if they can afford to eat that much they can afford to be taxed..

    • 2 years ago
  • neonbunny
  • haydemon
  • EmperorThan
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • Rameez_Arif
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      Rameez_Arif  
    • i think obese people or extremely unhealthy foods should be taxed in order to encourage a more healthy lifestyle. the government heavily taxes cigarettes tax the obese aswell

    • 2 years ago
  • afloyd60
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      afloyd60  
    • Rameez_Arif:

      it's this type of sentiment that is moving this society ever closer to the orwellian, 1984 type society. if someone wants to be fat, it's their prerogative. why do some people (quite a few on this site) always look to the govt. to fix their problems. the govt. already encroaches way too much on the individual's private life as it is. do you really want them controlling every aspect of our lives?? i doubt you do.

      free and brave or cradle to the grave. i'll take free and brave thank you very much.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • Rameez_Arif:

      Well the catch is that if we don't tax fat people to reduce their population, sooner or later their stupid fat asses are going to be complaining ever louder that the government needs to make health care more affordable for their stupid fat asses.

      It's a vicious cycle, and it makes me hate fat people even more.

    • 2 years ago
  • neonbunny
  • apple_pie
  • JanforGore
  • cerealforeal
  • alivein85
  • WakeUpPeople
  • thewallisgirl
  • haydemon
  • hayckuh
  • Gravity_Man
  • neonbunny
  • QuestionGeek
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      QuestionGeek  
    • hayckuh:

      hayckuh -

      I've heard that people that are this big, like what you see in the photo, have a severe thyroid problem and they don't have the ability like you and I or other slender people to feel full. Sounds weird, huh? But if you ask them, that's what they'll say.

      But then again, it makes you wonder how much of it is lack of discipline, when you see a gargantuan guy, like what is pictured here, slurpin' up ice cream ( a super fattening food)

      Did you know that one scoop of ice cream contains as much fat as a stick of butter?

    • 2 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  
    • Well that makes sense, being obese puts a strain on other parts of the body like the heart, lungs, joints etc....so why wouldnt it put a strain on the brain as well?

    • 2 years ago
  • BenDorries
  • alivein85
  • dariusvons
  • QuestionGeek
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      QuestionGeek  
    • BenDorries:

      It's an expensive silicone based sexual lubricant that doesn't get sticky like the water based type. It's great for masturbating, or if your woman is too dry or making anal sex less painful and more comfortable. It's a similar product to KY-Liquid. I'm sure you've heard of that, correct?

    • 2 years ago
  • masterzip
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      masterzip  
    • This study forgot to mention that obese men also suffer from having a little known medical condition called a dickydoo, and that is when your stomach sticks out further than your dicky do.

    • 2 years ago
  • GodsnLiberals
  • nkeg87
  • animaladvocate
  • alivein85
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      alivein85  
    • animaladvocate:

      Whatever. Being morbidly obese is not a lifestyle. I am not talking about people who just had a kid or who are just somewhat overeweight. I'm talking about people like in the picture or in that movie Whats Eating Gilbert Grape.
      Its a choice, its not like they were born that way.

    • 2 years ago
  • GodsnLiberals
  • neonbunny
  • dariusvons
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      dariusvons  
    • animaladvocate:

      I agree with alive in 85, these people are glottons and nothing less... hell they're s glottonous they cant even control their own diets. that de-fucking-scusting! fat people are whats wrong with american healthcare. I work in a hospital and deal with these lardassses all day everyday... they diserve the health problems they get, because they aren't even living a life worth living.

      fat people are nothing short of glottons and they cant even hide it.

    • 2 years ago
  • alivein85
  • Pawper
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      Pawper  
    • animaladvocate:

      Don't forget, some just don't know any better, or what steps to take to live a healthier lifestyle. This is why health & wellness education is important. P.E. teachers need to spend more time educating and conditioning students instead of telling them to run laps or go play ball!

    • 2 years ago
  • thewallisgirl
  • stardate
  • Gravity_Man
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