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Neocons: Obama's education speech = "Indoctrination," "brainwashing," Communist China, Hitler Youth

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Glenn Beck: Obama speech more evidence of the "indoctrination of your children." On his radio show, Beck discussed Obama's speech with a caller and said, "On Tuesday, the president is going to be speaking to classrooms and your children, if they go to school -- K through sixth grade, I believe. You know, hey, get 'em while they're young." Beck added that he was planning on airing "a special one-hour broadcast next Tuesday on television on the indoctrination of your children," explaining that he decided to air "it on that Tuesday because of Barack Obama speaking [to students] on that Tuesday." Beck continued: "Gang, you have a system that is wildly, wildly out of control, and they are capturing your kids. As [special adviser for green jobs] Van Jones himself has said, the earlier we get the kids, the earlier we make this adjustment with the youth, the easier this transition is going to be. Stand guard America. Your republic is under attack." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 9/2/09]
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NewsBusters' Finkelstein: "The Sayings Of Chairman Barack." In a September 2 blog post, contributing editor Mark Finkelstein repeatedly compared Obama's address to Chinese communism, writing: "Our leader will be addressing all schoolchildren on September 8th. ... Will our MSM report on the interesting parallel between our president's plan for our children and the approach of another Great Leader from the past?"
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Michelle Malkin: "School Indoctrination," "No junior lobbyist left behind." In her September 2 Creators Syndicate column, Michelle Malkin claimed that Obama's speech amounts to recruiting "junior lobbyists." From her column, titled, "Obama's classroom campaign: No junior lobbyist left behind":

'The activist tradition of government schools using students as junior lobbyists cannot be ignored. Zealous teacher's unions have enlisted captive schoolchildren as letter-writers in their campaigns for higher education spending. Out-of-control activists have enlisted their secondary-school charges in pro-illegal immigration protests, gay marriage ceremonies, environmental propaganda stunts, and anti-war events.'
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American Thinker: "Obama has turned his team of brainwashers on the task of indoctrinating America's youth." In a September 1 post, Lauri Regan wrote that "Obama has turned his team of brainwashers on the task of indoctrinating America's youth. ... My children are off limits."

In a recent article that I wrote for AT, I stated that while I feared it imminent, the Obama administration had not yet turned its attention to controlling the public education system. Little did I know that my fear would come to fruition so quickly.

Perhaps because he has had enough of adult Americans questioning his policies and his lies, or perhaps he would like to take some attention away from his falling approval ratings and failing healthcare overhaul, Obama has turned his team of brainwashers on the task of indoctrinating America's youth.
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43 comments // Neocons: Obama's education speech = "Indoctrination," "brainwashing," Communist China, Hitler Youth

  • Pogo_Nom_Tropo
  • J_Jammer
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    • The Cato Institute, a public-policy research foundation, issued a press release entitled "Hey Obama, Leave Those Kids Alone," criticizing the "troubling buzzwords" in the lesson plans:

      "It's one thing for a president to encourage all kids to work hard and stay in school – that's a reasonable use of the bully pulpit. It's another thing entirely, however, to have the U.S. Department of Education send detailed instructions to public schools nationwide on how to glorify the president and the presidency, and push them to drive social change."

      Across the blogosphere, comments covered the spectrum, from critical to supportive, and from one student, a little anger:

      "I sent my children to school to be educated NOT indoctrinated." — justamom

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      AND:
      In an ironic twist, one Missouri school won't be airing the speech because of a lack of funding. Michelle Baumstark, spokeswoman for Columbia public schools, told the Columbia Daily Tribune, "We don’t have the funding or the equipment to support that type of broadcasting.”
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      if he cares they'll fix that so ALL schools have a chance. I mean what's more important Ford or Schools? So far GM and Banks are more important.....we'll see.

      Hopefully he'll do something and show that he does have good intentions with said speech.

      But so far it seems that big business is more important than the little children....with school districts losing school buses and such...education is panning out to not be as important as the President suggests.

    • 2 years ago
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  

    • Permit me to make an amendment to my earlier post where I stated that you were here to provoke dissension, with further evidence I stand corrected, what you are actually doing is just arguing for the sake of arguing.
      Speaking of books, one of my favorites from many years ago was ' How To Win Friends And Influence People " Dale Carnegie
      The lesson I learned from that book that I feel is apropo states " Any fool can argue...and most of them do" So I would suggest that if you are not adding anything informative or constructive to this article or this site you most certainly would fall into that category. Now if you disagree with that, please,
      take it up with Dale Carnegie...by the way he died in 1955, so you will definitely have the last word in that event.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  
    • Tyr:

      metaphorically speaking I was holding a mirror up to you so you could see yourself as others see you.
      Now satisfy your self indulgence with what you, and you alone, will consider a clever reply.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • Tyr:

      Again talking about yourself.

      Because if you are only stating things to get a pat on the back then you're doing it for the lie and the cheer.

      Not a wise move. But you already knew that.

    • 2 years ago
  • hunzedog
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      hunzedog  

    • he wont talk to the three and a half million people that want to talk to him about Marijuana legalization..but he has time to talk to the kiddies..........? I guess they dont ask the tough questions...

    • 2 years ago
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  

    • Are you serious? You don't have a side that you are in more of agreement with than another? Interesting...so you are just using this site to provoke dissention?

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • Tyr:

      If I went to Fox and posted there I would and could defend Obama and whatever it is he has said.

      This is no different.

      Too many people on one side. Underdogs are far more interesting to defend than people who bully and think they are right. On this site it's the liberals and democrats. On fox it would be conservatives and the Republicans.

      Just so happens I don't like over use of Red so I'm here. I like Green and black.

      And I could careless if you agree with me or if I convince you of anything. I just want people to realize that they've ignored a point of view and once they read it enough they can't deny another exists and they'll even think of it....even if it's a for a little bit.

    • 2 years ago
  • MilchMann
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    • Tyr:

      I am reminded of a Harry Nilsson album... 'The Point' ... specifically a line from the song 'The Pointed Man'

      "The pointed man, or the pointless man depending on your point of view. You see the pointless man did have a point, in fact he had hundreds of them pointing in every direction, but as he quickly pointed out, a point in every direction is the same as no point at all"

      And for you to truly understand that you are going to have to listen to the album, it is a narrative... I very influential narrative in the 60's... but culture has a way of disappearing in this country...

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • MilchMann
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    • Tyr:

      I can see how paranoia would lead you to the 1984 comparison

      Catch22... how the hell do you get that as a parallel?

      Animal Farm... that was an allegory of the Bolshevik Revolution... which started with an armed insurrection... the last time I looked it was the neocon fear mongers running around with guns threatening to revolt... the Bolsheviks were also a minority (hence the small number of pigs in Animal Farm) who manipulated the system through lies and propaganda... kind of like death panels and brain washing scares... or did you forget that Obama is the first president this millennium that got both the popular and electoral vote into office.

      This is a very well documented psychological ploy, it is called the big lie... my father literally wrote the book on it... and I was raised on its understanding, as well as other bargaining and manipulation tactics... car salesmen were consider a sport in my upbringing. Look kid, you are not playing around with morons on this site, well, not entirely, but you are starting to make your self look like a complete idiot... you really need to stop while you are ahead.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • Tyr:

      Anything MM recommends there's got to be a million things wrong with it....or, in this case, a million and one.

      Wow...he BARELY got the popular vote....if you use the electoral college it's a landslide. You use the popular vote it's a 51/49% going.

      Not a good thing to mention. don't forget that, yet you've already done so.

      Obama, as well as you, are trying to use force and fear to get people to agree...Animal Farm and 1984 and Catch-22. Manipulate the system? Cheat on taxes you get to become Secretary of Treasury. Have a shady judging past with weak experience you get to become a justice. Have no experince barely a senator and you get to become President as long as you get people chanting phrases that motivate them.

      Talk about manipulating the system to their advantage.

      If I was as dumb as you state...you wouldn't waste your time with me.

      Oh....but you do waste your time...because you know how wrong you are so you have to constantly justify your wrongness and your double standards that you hold.

      I think you need to read some books again. You missed some of the vital points. It's like you read the Spark Notes versions.

    • 2 years ago
  • MilchMann
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    • Tyr:

      I waste my time with you because there are people out there that might actually find you convincing for some reason... and I will not stand for it, you spew BS.

      First your statistic is wrong, it was 53% to 46%
      http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/

      Secondly... even if it was 51% it would still be a majority... you can not change that, or manipulate that to your advantage. Saying that he barely got the popular vote is ridiculous, he did, and that is more than could have ever been said for George Bush who served two terms in office.

      Catch22 is my favorite book of all time, I have read it about seven times... if you want to call Yossarian or Major Major Major manipulating the system, that is your prerogative, every American has tried to get out of at least one day of school, or a speeding ticket in their life... manipulation on that scale does not equate to what you are trying to equate it to here. The point of the book was that you can be stuck between senselessness and not be able to budge, that is what a catch22 is, you can not get out of it any which way you turn.

      Example:

      Your round robin arguments that you post on here relentlessly are a catch22... also known as a logical fallacy... as presented in the picture above.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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    • Tyr:

      Speak of the devil.....that doesn't add anything positive to any article they posts in......

      66,882,230 58,343,671
      the difference is 8,538,559

      Roughly the same difference between Clinton and Dole
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_1996

      But Clinton won more Electoral Votes....14 more.

      George Bush won Popular Vote and the Election in 2004
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Presidential_Election_2004

      Don't choke on the crow just yet.

      The reason for the Catch-22 mention, because you need help and that's understandable, is the following:

      Yes you can dislike Obama. Please tell us why you dislike Obama.

      Because he has barely kept any of his campaign promises and the one I really wish he'd keep is to remove the don't ask, don't tell.....

      RACIST.

      What? You said that I can dislike Obama if I have a reason. I gave a reason.

      You may dislike Obama as long as your dislike of Obama is not racist. But if you dislike Obama you are racist. Do you understand?

      Well...do you?

    • 2 years ago
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • Tyr:

      No one called you racist on this thread, and I for one have never called you racist... ever!!! So I do not know where all of that came from, perhaps a guilty conscience, I will not speculate further though.... because I do not care.

      Catch22 statement you just made

      A) does not make any sense... how does that book have anything to do with being able to dislike Obama, or fulfilling campaign promises (of which he has filled quite a few in a mere 9 months) and

      B) Ignores the fact that you stated this just a few posts ago

      "Obama, as well as you, are trying to use force and fear to get people to agree...Animal Farm and 1984 and Catch-22"

      ... which pretty clearly states that you had a different reason for using it as a reference... and have now realized that it did not make any sense... congratulations... you receive today's award for inconsistency!!!!

      You are grasping at straws here, and they are becoming more and more incoherent...

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • Tyr:

      You just proved the point I made with the example.

      What negative comments are Ok to state about Obama? Apparently every time someone makes one you rush in to defend him and mock the person making the accusation. Just like you're doing here.

      This whole thing started because you poked your nose where it did not belong doing exactly what you stated I do....which is provoked. Then when you got a response you act like you don't know what hit you.

      You're so full of it that people can smell it. The only people that can't are the ones that blindly like Obama.

      I was mocking you with your poor use of that song you used to weasel yourself into this conversation. Apparently you were feeling lonely and you needed to talk/hate on someone.

      You got more than you could handle so you're trying to weasel out of it.

      You should and you shouldn't start things you can't finish...

    • 2 years ago
  • MilchMann
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    • Tyr:

      Your feint attempts are comical... and the only thing you are achieving with this blatant duplicity is to discredit yourself. With every comment you make comes a new implied imposition for which you expect me to defend my self... which I have to admit, is an interesting tactic you have developed, but it is not very effective here... you make these grandiose claims and when you are challenged on them you pull into your shell and continue to spit out these challenges/attacks till you have had the last word...

      I am trying to figure out what you think you may have gained by claiming I am in over my head... the only thing I can come up with is that you are attempting a bait and switch... which I would guess is more of a subconscious emulation for you... but none the less... it does not work here... this s a forum where all of the facts are laid out in print for all to see.

      Whatever... I am done, go ahead and take the last word if it makes you feel like you have accomplished something...

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • Tyr:

      That's what people do..I'm done. Instead of doing the most reasonable thing and just stop replying you have to make it apparent you've quit. Egotistical.

      And you made my point. Someone will state something about Obama and you'll state it's wrong...all the time. Hence the exaggerated catch-22.

      It's not a bate and switch. You started this and then you pretend as if you were pulled into it and then pretend further you didn't make up something to start your inquisition. It is funny. You've convinced yourself that you didn't start the provoking.

      Even those that pretend to ignore (Marylin) they still make reference, meaning they still read. Not so good with the ignoring.

      You tired to embarrass me and it failed. It was time for you to go. You should have just not bother to being with. But who am I to tell you what you already decided from my first reply to you here.

    • 2 years ago
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  

    • If he can brainwash your kids with a 5 or 10 minute speech your kids and all your influence on them is weak as water.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  
    • Tyr:

      I am using the words of those you apparently agree with from the above quotes:
      American Thinker: "Obama has turned his team of brainwashers on the task of indoctrinating America's youth." In a September 1 post, Lauri Regan wrote that "Obama has turned his team of brainwashers on the task of indoctrinating America's youth. ... My children are off limits."
      The term brainwashing came from your side of the argument.
      Further, if encouraging my kids to stay in school and do their very best is brainwashing then I must admit that I am guilty of it as well. I started laying down that foundation of indoctrination in the first grade. What a corrupt idea, as insidious as it gets, next I might even program them to consider college, and we know how conservatives feel about that bastion of liberal thinking.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • Tyr:

      He hasn't spoken yet. So you are wrong to suggest what is he will say as those that think it'll be bad are wrong. If you are not wrong then they are not wrong.

      But basing what he is to say on what he says he's going to talk about is as trustworthy as his campaign promises.

      And I don't have a side. But if you wish to use that to further something in your own mind, be my guest.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  

    • Hear that hacking? Please send your well wishes because one of our own Current members has something stuck in her throat. We do not wish her to feel pain. May it not cause her any discomfort.

      Some might call it double standard....but no one should die over it....well socially of course.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      J_Jammer [removed]  

    • Good god is there not a single article on this that can come from source that isn't enslaved to a political side? MediaMatters is such a pathetic trashy place. Ick.

      There is a secretary of Education for a reason and Obama is far too busy helping gays in the military to speak to children....oh wait.

    • 2 years ago
  • JohnA
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      JohnA  

    • Read William Ayers book and tell me this doesn't scare the shit out of you. Oh yeah, but Obama and William Ayers are just guys around the neighborhood, they're not friends or associates or anything. And Obama's not a Muslim either. Right?

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • JohnA:

      Why would people want to read Ayers? He is a nut job... and the supposed Obama connections to him are so far removed it is laughable... it is the equal of my sisters best friends room mate heard... it is Fing stupid.

    • 2 years ago
  • JohnA
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      JohnA  
    • JohnA:

      Still refusing to see what is right in front of our face, are we? You'll realize the truth soon enough, don't worry. I just hope it's not too late when you do.

    • 2 years ago
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • JohnA:

      I tell you what, spell it out to me, word for word, one piece of evidence at a time... and if you can put Barack Obama in consistent contact with Ayres... I will reverse my opinion entirely. If you on the other hand can not, and are relying on conjecture and word of mouth... I will continue to call your statements blatant fear mongering lies.

      So have at it... sway my opinion with the facts JohnA.

    • 2 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
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      chasingame  

    • For the zombies that follow Beck I am sure that this is a nightmare scenario playing out right before their eyes. The president is going to brainwash their kids with this one speech. What kind of week minded offspring are these people raising? I really do feel sorry for them and hope that they make it through this OK. For the rest of America, as Marilynn pointed out, it is nice to see Obama taking the time to speak to our children on the importance of an education.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • It takes a pretty twisted person to take the president encouraging students to do well in school and turn that into indoctrination. Good for President Obama that he cares enough to take the time to let the students know that he is interested in their achievements.

      May the people that find fault with this choke on their hateful bile.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • Marilynn_Murray
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  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  

    • Yes educating the youth on the Office of the President is a horrific indoctrination. I never want my child to respect the office or the individual elected to it, especially after the last "educator" that held the position..

      Hopefully he won't continue to read a children's book while thousands of Americans die in a terrorist attack.

    • 2 years ago
  • Progresshiv
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      WakeUpPeople  

    • This just proves that no matter what Obama does, he will never do anything right in these people's eyes. He could help an old lady across the street and they would call it attempted eldery euthanasia.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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