Texas exonerees become millionaires
source: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/09/new-law-makes-texas-prisoners-exonerated-by-dna...
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They will get $80,000 for each year they spent behind bars, the AP says. The compensation also includes lifetime annuity payments that for most of the wrongly convicted are worth between $40,000 and $50,000 a year.
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If you're going to get falsely accused of a crime, do it in Texas.
More story at the link.
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Celogen
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For those who are truly interested in background information and statistics on DNA exonerees, visit www.innocenceproject.org. They have answers to all of your questions, including a state-by-state breakdown.
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Celogen
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Tyr
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Celogen:
Thanks celogen, I just bookmarked that site.
My suspicions were confirmed. - 2 years ago
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Celogen
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This link provides a more complete story (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5grLo5gR1yAbyKHKS_xv9RhFRbv1gD9...). I like the recent changes in the Texas law, not just the increased compensation, but the level and type of social and support services that are also provided.
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Tyr
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Does anybody know which state has had the most exonerated prisoners?
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Tyr
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raiderguyx
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they should get SOME compensation, but not @ 80k a yr. most of these guys were rescued, rather than arrested.
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raiderguyx:
I think 80k is not enough to compensate for loss of prime of their life and emotional crippling forever.
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MotherForTruth
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Maeveeo
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The Bottom line is that The TEXAS JUDICIAL SYSTEM
SUCKS BIG TIME ENOUGH WHERE AS THE STATE HAS 2 PAY ALL THAT MONEY 4 STUFF THEY WERE
SUPPOSE 2 GET RIGHT THE 1st TIME ! Glad i don't live there ! WHEW ! - 2 years ago
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SDLN
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"If you're going to get falsely accused of a crime, do it in Texas."
That'd be a helluva gamble. You'd be betting your life that the Texas judicial system will exonerate you before you're executed. Tick, tick, tick...
Nonetheless, it's good to see Texas making an effort of some kind. And naming the bill after Tim Cole was a nice touch.
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wmorrison13
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if texas has a shi*ty court, they might as well pay for it.
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hombre76
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It's only right we all as a society took these persons life from them unlawfully and falsely. they will need that money just to get their life back on track. go to college and get some schooling so they can have some type of decent life. and frankly as compensation for the horrific existence they had to endure as an inmate in a prison population.
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hombre76
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hombre76:
They can get schooling while in prison. So that's not something they'll really be looking to do.
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hombre76:
I agree with your post, but I would like to point out that Che Guevara was a murdering thug. Yes, I am a flaming liberal, but let's not make out icons out of butchers.
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hammywill
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More information at the above link.
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MotherForTruth
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Bad laws enforced by overzealous prosecutors who are allowed to manipulate the system for the personal advancement, private prisons, innocent that may not have the funds to hire good attorney to PROVE their innocence. The change is overdue.
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jaystyx
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I still wouldn’t want to be convicted of any crime in Texas. They might give me the chair for steeling a piece of gum.
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jaystyx:
Where did that happen?
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jaystyx:
I am clearly making a joke about how easily it is to end up on death row in Texas.
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jaystyx:
I know.
But just because Texas has it, doesn't mean it's easy to sit down in it and get lit up.
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samthesixth
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It would be great if this would spark a review by all the governors.
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morgane_r
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This is a great initiative. Hopefully Texas becomes a little more careful about who they put in prison.
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morgane_r:
That's a problem world around, not just Texas.
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spacemikey [removed]
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Too bad they can't bring back the people I'm sure they wrongly executed... (there had to be a few)
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booksellergirl
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So how much do they give to the person wrongfully executed? Oh, right, money can't fix dead.
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freshfish
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That poor man they took his youth how bout penalties for those involved in the procecution of someone innocent.
Maybe that WOULD MAKE THESE ASSHOLE DA's think twice about the circumstantial evidence they use to put these people behind bars. Fucking texas I am ashamed to be one, all the ex-con millionaires wont make up for those who have died in prison or have been executed innocently, in the past.I used to believe there was a place for the death penalty but i am increasingly aware that we are not a society that is even mature enough to decide if someone is guilty or innocent,
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shanklinmike
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE49YfOwXls
Actually, the prison complex, the court system, and the government bureaucracy that deviates this money ALL stand to gain ever more from wrongful imprisonment. This actually just gave the bureaucrats more incentives, not less. Remember, none of this is their money, so the more they can control the better for them and the worse for the economy. This will only funnel money to inefficient coercive monopolies that will only strengthen their power grip over time. Who knows how long before this program becomes unsustainable......so sad. The problems are the laws, and they are curtailing the solution to build another bureaucracy.....Not saying these people don't deserve compensation, I am saying many of the laws on the books currently shouldn't be in the first place.
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Betico
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dozens of wrongly accused people? sounds like an institutional problem to me...good for those poor people. institutionalized racism sucks mean donkey cock.
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outtheinside
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it may seem like a lot of money, but really?? i mean think of everything in the world you've missed out on - family, having kids, a career, travel - it still seems like chump change to me. it should be doubled or have some exponential sliding scale for the more years you've wrongfully served. i wasn't aware of this being an issue (compensation for wrongly accused) but at least this is a start.
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outtheinside:
Start?
Texas is the state that is releasing the most wrongly accused---not as in they have the most but they are actually going through and checking via DNA evidence and releasing. Other states are falling behind. And Texas is the only state that has this high payment. Other states will not pay you this much at all.
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outtheinside:
In Texas they have the death penalty am I right?
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hcice
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Our justice system was supposed to be based on "to ensure we don't imprison the innocent, we may at times end up letting the guilty go" instead of the "to make sure we get all the guilty it is worth imprisoning some innocents."
I greatly hope that the state having to pay out like this will help reform the system. They should be getting the $80,000 per year that they were wrongfully imprisoned and then $80,000 per year after that too. I mean, come on Texas, for most of these people you have completely ruined their lives, or at least the lives they could have had!
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samthesixth
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Hey lifestudentno83---you do realize Texas is a Republican state don't you?
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samthesixth:
You have a point, I assume?
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lifestudentno83
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samthesixth:
I found it refreshing that you would post something that demonstrated tolerance for the other side!
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samthesixth:
You're assuming I am a Democrat supporter, but that is incorrect.
I dislike bi-partisan politics, and I am not afraid to call either side out onto the carpet. However, I find Republicans are big offenders of civil liberties and rights we wish to uphold. Truthfully, I don't like any of the politicians on Capitol Hill save for less than a handful. Obama isn't even my favorite president, but I will defend him against unfair attacks just like I have for Bush.Whether or not this state has a republican Governor or not is irrelevant in the case of exonerated people getting paid money from the state. It an issue of justice and not politics.
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samthesixth:
lifest... is clearly a no0b!
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samthesixth:
I am not impugning anyone's character. I agree with you when it comes to your characterization of today's politicians.
I was psyched that someone on current (and not you in particular) was willing to post something on an important issue (like exoneration) even though it said something positive about the Texans!
My question was tongue in cheek to try to point out the above.
Hopefully I have given no offense here as none was intended.
Thanks for the post on such an important issue.
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samthesixth:
None taken.
Thanks for commenting, Sam. - 2 years ago
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lifestudentno83
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$80,000 for a year of wrongful imprisonment is not an exorbitant compensation. It's more like lost wages plus a few grand as an apology. It might even put an incentive on the state not to incarcerate innocent people.
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H3ADLINE:
Actually, the prison complex, the court system, and the government bureaucracy that deviates this money ALL stand to gain ever more from wrongful imprisonment. This actually just gave the bureaucrats more incentives, not less. Remember, none of this is their money, so the more they can control the better for them and the worse for the economy. This will only funnel money to inefficient coercive monopolies that will only strengthen their power grip over time. Who knows how long before this program becomes unsustainable......so sad. The problems are the laws, and they are curtailing the solution to build another bureaucracy.....
Not saying these people don't deserve compensation, I am saying many of the laws on the books currently shouldn't be in the first place.
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shanklinmike
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H3ADLINE:
I agree with you that the prison lobby rigging the law for mass incarceration is the underlying problem. It would be nice to see the profit incentive for locking people up removed.
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luthreads
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they deserve that flow
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lj111
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seems right to me.
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Alex_French
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yeah, but if you are going to be rightly accused of a crime, DON'T do it in Texas.
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Alex_French:
This is true... Lol.
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lifestudentno83
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Alex_French:
LMAO! SO true!
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hammywill