How the US Became a Vassal State of China

suicide troops, oh you mean the ones from pearl harbour? great memory you have. i almost forgot about that one. are you taking into account that china doesnt have an aircraft carrier? how do you propose they launch an invasion? swimming ashore? and then maybe doing some kung fu? china does have a presence in south america, and africa. but they dont go in there with guns like america does. their so called presence is still nothing compared to americas 750 military bases around the world where they have guns pointed at countries from every angle. also, china is not staging coups and assasinating leaders that dont agree with their view point. you make the assumption that other countries are like yours. just because america uses threats to gain influence does not mean every country rolls that way. its funny you bring this up because right now there is a debate in japan about removing u.s. troops. this base is actually one of the biggest u.s. bases world wide, and also i would not even call it a debate. the japanese people have spoken. they want the u.s. out, yet america is trying to strong arm the japanese. so much for democracy. ragan, you need to educate yourself before you make any comments about the chinese. study their history. they were a super power for thousands of years, and had the opportunity to invade and attack other countries but they chose not to. they arrived in africa before the europeans did, and left. they did not try to colonise. they also sailed with their navy to south east asia and made no attempts to conquer or colonise. go read 1434 by gavin menzies, and stop fear mongering.

So much BS in that post.

You might as well state that you don't like bush and would rather blame him than put any blame on Democrats.

You're almost funny enough to be called a joke.

jammer....

it is bush's fault..........Duh?......how much more evidence do you need......... a conviction. to be told what the truth is because you cant see it?

It's Thomas Jefferson's fault. DUH....

Hard not to notice your inability to counter the FACTS with any additional FACTS Jammer. Your opinion is only an opinion, based apparently on nothing more than your own bias.

This thread lacks that thing you call Facts.

Blaming isn't a fact.

Unless you're stating that Glenn Beck has all the facts.

acounterdicksh1t.........

your mother needs gov. tampons cuz she ran out of socks!!!!! and her washing machine got deported.

The Praetorian Guards literally SOLD the Roman Empire to Didius Julianus; the deal was concluded in GREEK DRACHMAS --not WORTHLESS Roman SESTERCES.

The sale of the US to China is very nearly complete, and was concluded in YUANS ---not worthless US dollars.

It was Nixon who 'went to China' but it was Bush Sr who laid the ground work. Years later, in Houston, I spoke with Bush Sr personally about this. As usual, however, he spoke in vague generalities about trade and peace and this and that and the nice dinner he had in the Forbidden City.

Simply --because of the incompetent ecocnomics of Nixon (removing the US from the GOLD standard), Reagan, Bush Sr, and Bush Jr, the US has become a VASSAL state of China.

And for that we salute you

Yeah its more like 90%

Thanks for quoting my quotation Lenhart.
Today I had lunch with a friend who is a bit more conservative than me.
When you have spoken to twelve people in one day and ALL of them have been affected by the downturn, you know it's serious. It seems that even service professionals are having their jobs exported as well.
Why that handsome Mr. Reagan was such a gentleman. Every time I see a mentally ill person on the street I think of him and take pause to try and figure out how a man morphs in such a strange way.

We don't even have the equipment to take our industry back. We not only exported the jobs we sent all the instruction manuals and didn't make copies.

When both left and right tell me that they do not recognize our country, I know something is very wrong. Blocks and blocks of commercial property for lease. Places where small businesses could once get a small loan and open a specialty shop or cafe. GONE. Can't do it. Only trust fund babies get to have parents pay for their folly. Loans are not available. The shipping companies are hurting because nobody will give even ten days to pay. It's COD or prepaid.
The greatest tragedy is that we have lost something far deeper. That is the ability to follow a dream. To use our imagination and our hands and eyes. They wanted a servant class and that is what they created.
For all who have studied caste systems, the very rich will have lunch with the maid but not with someone who aspires to be like the boss. I'll dine with the rabble as they have big hearts and have suffered. They'll love to hear the stories of my gout attacks. Then they leave the table, take my plate and wash it and go on with their chores. Their aspirations are only to serve. The man who is ambitious will hurt both my ego and may even think himself to possibly one day be my equal.

And Kylsport is correct, the "lefties" or whatever you call them ARE CORRECT HERE on this thread.

Re: "When you have spoken to twelve people in one day and ALL of them have been affected by the downturn, you know it's serious. It seems that even service professionals are having their jobs exported as well."

The trends were noticed as Reagan still occupied the White House. But the GOP tried the 'spin' it, their recipe for every issue.

If US manufacturing jobs were exported, the US workers would 'migrate' to service industries, white collar, and the incipient IT field.

The GOP assured us that we would survive by 'taking in each others laundry', a so-called 'service' economy.

Now millions of Americans are trying to figure out a way to make money by affiliating wiht Amazon.com.

Unless the nation wakes up to to the HARD facts, a COLD reality, the US will simply become irrelevant on the world stage but for the NUKES it still warehouses and bullies with.

The best historical analogy is still the 'sale' of the Roman Empire by Praetorian Guards to a noblemen --Didius Julianus. The sale was concluded in DRACHMAS, Greek currency, not WORTHLESS Roman SESTERCES.

The US is being auctioned as we write. The sale of the US to China is very nearly completed, and effected in YUANS ---not worthless US dollars.

Very well put, Sam. The rabbit hole goes MUCH deeper. With no alices or neos around, unfortunately.

this comment was written by a chinese secret agent and translated on babel fish.

Its hard for you to think that this could of been done but it has been done. If you or I played chess with a chess master it would be hard to see that we really lost on the first move. When me and you go to work are 9 to 5 teams of very smart men and women think of ways to change the world. Thats been happening forever. The first thing we need to do to fix that is see it.

Re: "No...this article is wrong."

No ...the article is absolutely spot on and the official stats prove it.

Now --no one promised you would like it. But wrong? No...it's right.

No, it's wrong.

If you cannot blame both sides for where America is...then wrong is all it can be.

No ---it's right. And admit it. You didn't bother to read it.

Re: "Blaming the Republicans is almost as dumb as blaming the democrats for 9/11 because Clinton let the big fish go running around with out capturing him when he could have."

It was the GOP that bankrupted the us under Reagan. It was Reagan who 1) committed HIGH TREASON with Iran/Contra; 2) It was Reagan's tax cut of 1982 which triggered the longest and deepest depression since Hoover's great depression;.

Reagan promised SMALLER govt but DOUBLED the size of the Federal Bureaucracy.

Reagan promised a balanced budget but instead TRIPLED the BUDGET DEFICIT, Bush Jr would repeat that performance.

The US was most productive when it was most egalitarian and that was in the immediate post world War II years.

The 1982 tax cut created the rift in which the rich became richer and the poor poorer. That trend was reversed under Clinton only to resume under the cretin --Bush Jr.

Today --as a result of the incompetence, greed and sellouts by Reagan, Sr. and Jr --just ONE PERCENT of the nation OWNS more than some 95 percent of the rest of us combined.

As I have demonstrated on my blog with thousands of pages and as many OFFICIAL GOVT charts, egalitarian societies are the most productive societies and vice versa.

The transfer of wealth --via inequitable tax cuts -- always, without fail, results in a contraction of the economy. The other word for contraction is: DEPRESSION.

EVERY RECESSION SINCE 1900 is directly traceable to a GOP REGIME.

To underscore the point: since 1945, every major recession has occurred during and because of a GOP regime

Since 1980, every major recession has occurred during the regimes of Reagan, Bush Sr and Bush Jr which left to OBAMA a catastrophe in the making.

Today --as a result of Jr unfair taxation --just ONE PERCENT of the entire population owns more than 95 percent of us combined. This tax windfall has NEVER been re-invested but --rather -squirreled away in OFFSHORE TAX HAVENS that are bluntly just unavailable to anyone posting on this forum.

Monies thus removed from the economy are a CONTRACTION of the economy and the other word for CONTRACTION is DEPRESSION.

As pointed out: the CIAs own World Fact Book lists the US on the very bottom with the world's LARGEST NEGATIVE current account balance, previously called the balance of trade deficit. CHINA is at the TOP of the list with the world's largest POSITIVE current account balance.

The US is a VASSAL of China and that is so whether you like or not. And it is the direct result of the GOP domination of the executive since 1980.

The GOP, moreover, has proven Karl Marx to have been absolutely correct. That is, freedom and capitalism are NOT compatible.

My sources include: CIA World Fact Book, US Census Bureau, Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, US Commerce Dept-BEA, the Congressional Budget Office, the Conservative Brookings Institution and numerous university studies, basic economics text books, and articles by Paul Krugman, the Conservative Milton Friedman, economic treatises by John Maynard Keynes and many, many others.

The HARD STATS, however, are US Govt sources listed above. Now --please try to tell me that the US Commerce Dept is 'liberally' biased !!

BTW -- I don't play this 'fair and balanced' crap! If the GOP have LIED I will do my best to expose it.

IF the GOP has created as a many of either CROOKERY or INCOMPETENCE EVERY major depression or recession since WWII, I am not about to pretend that the Democrats did it, when it was, in fact, the clear and obvious result of the GOP's deliberate attempts to enrich their base which is --as present --just ONE PECENT of the US population.

And guess what --the smart bet says NO ONE posting on Current is a member of that richest ONE PERCENT.

So --get real! The GOP is NOT gonna make you rich. Fuggetaboutit!

The article is correct and based upon the GOVT'S own stats.

Following is a short excerpt from the article that is linked to:

How right wing policies have robbed the US population with "trickle down theory" and other nonsense utterly unsupported with fact or evidence:

* In the late 1970s, the top one percent of the US population held 13 percent of the wealth; in 1995 it held 38 percent. [Source: Source: Levy, Frank. The New Dollars and Dreams ].
* The top ten percent of the US population owns 81.8 percent of the real estate, 81.2 percent of the stock, and 88 percent of the bonds. [Source: Federal Reserve Bank data in Left Business Observer, No. 72, Apr. 3, 1996, p. 5].
* One percent of the US population owns sixty percent of the stock and forty percent of the total wealth. [Source: Hawken, Paul, The Ecology of Commerce: A Declaration of Sustainability. New York: Harper Business, 1993].
* The top fifth of households saw their income rise 43 percent between 1977 and 1999, while the bottom fifth saw their income fall 9 percent....
* Since 1973, every group in society except the top 20 percent has seen its share of the national income decline, with the bottom 20 percent losing the most. They have just 3.6 percent of national income, down from 4.4 percent a quarter century ago.
* Indeed, the top fifth now makes more than the rest of the nation combined...
Rebecca Blank, who recently left the President's Council of Economic Advisors, pointed out, ‘We've gone back to levels of income and wealth inequality that this country hasn't seen since the teens and 1920s.’" [Source: Merrill Goozner, Crash of '99?, Salon.com, Oct. 1, 1999; addendum: since 1999, the date the source was published, the situation is much, much worse. Today --just ONE PERCENT own more than 95 percent of the rest of us combined. GOP incompetence and criminality moves so fast these days, it's hard to keep up!].
* The top one percent of Americans receive more income than the bottom 40 percent. [Source: Korten, David. When Corporations Rule the World, p. 108].
* Federal Reserve median family net worth by percentile for 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001 (Federal Reserve Bulletin January 2003, pp. 1-36). Note the small gains for the bottom 75% of the population and larger gains for the upper 25% and that the 1998 to 2001 gains were largest.

--US Wealth Distributions 1989-2001
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth484/wpsipp.html

Actually, Clinton tried to put a hit (assassination attempt) on Bin Laden. People, most of which were republicans, shot it down for the reason that Bin Laden was a foreign leader and assassinations of people of such positions was immoral and illegal. Oddly enough, Bin Laden was not in any formal or informal sense a foreign leader.

More of the govt's own stats prove the GOP consistently presides over weak if not recessionary ecnomies.

Job Growth Per Year Under Most Recent Presidents

Johnson 3.8%
Carter 3.1
Clinton 2.4
Kennedy 2.3
Nixon 2.3
Reagan 2.1
Bush 0.6

-- Bureau of Labor Statistics, Current Employment Statistics Survey

NOTE: the WORST performing Prezzies are ALL GOP.

ANOTHER NOTE: The GOP has demonized Carter for a word they just made up: 'stagflation'.

In fact, no GOP President equals Carter's performance which is second only to the boom that was measured during the LBJ years.

Doesn't look like Obama is having much Job growth.

ANYWAY...if you can't find blame in the Democrats I don't think you're worth listening to.........EVER.

So blame away....but there is fault sides and if you can't see it you're not smarter than those you point the finger at.

Re: "Doesn't look like Obama is having much Job growth."

Obama has been in office less than a year.

As incompetent and as dishonest as was Reagan, it required his administration, that of Bush Sr AND Bush Jr to bring the nation to the brink of total collapse, to make of the nation a VASSAL state of China.

i suggest the GOP just shut the fuck up and let the nation try a DIFFERENT strategy because rightwingism is a total screw up, a total failure in every measurable economic barometer.

Clinton, it must be pointed out, managed to REVERSE several pernicious trends that had taken root in the previous GOP regimes.

But --Clinton got a blow job --therefore, GOP LOGIC decrees that nothing he did is valid.

CLUE: I would HAPPILY PROCURE BJs for Clinton if I thought it would REVERSE THE UTTER DISASTER that the GOP has visited upon my country.

In a phrase: down with the GOP! The GOP --indeed the American right wing --is an endemic, total failure, screw up for which there is no redemption.

Blame, blame, blame.

Anyone who recommends your comments is just as much to blame for the problems of the world as anyone else.

pointing the fingers at someone else doesn't make you better or innocent of any crime against humanity.

Democrats are guilty too,

Can't say it, you're not worth listening to.

Clinton was not the one that made Bin Laden the man he is. that would be Ronald Reagan , Bush Sr. for selling him guns then pissing him off

Yes. So Afghanistan deserved to be taken over and abused by Russia.

Nice.

JJammer you say "Yes. So Afghanistan deserved to be taken over and abused by Russia."

So what do you think Afghanistan deserved to be taken over and abused by who? Ronald Reagan and, Bush Sr. pet Bin Laden he is a fucking madman!

JJammer why do you think Russia would try to take over a shit hole like Afghanistan? To control the drug trade. And thats why Ronald Reagan , Bush Sr. made Bin Laden To control the drug trade. and thats why the 80s sucked and everyone was so pumped up on drugs. open your eyes

No.

Afghanistan was not what you state. It was a beautiful country before Russia stomped it.

Nice try.

Yeah a beautiful DRUG FARM! and its been that way since man first started smoking the crap . Opium been farmed in Afghanistan since before it was Afghanistan. Russia tried to control the drug trade but we could not have that so we made a pact with the Devil. We are at war with every country that makes or grows oil, opium, coke, or weed but tons of that crap gets over are borders every day ? but not one 100 pound WMD? sounds like your fearless leaders are up to no good.

That was awesome privateibber, more food for thought.
Sometimes I wish I had of moved 20 years ago to another country but I have stuck around because I am quite fond of the Mad Max movie series. The ride will be hard but thats OK I grew up in the school of hard nocks and nothing scares me.

One really big nut shell.