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Mad As Hell Doctors Are Off To The Races!

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Marilynn_Murray
HEALTH CARE FOR PEOPLE - NOT PROFIT!

Today September 8, 2009 a group of dedicated Oregon physicians will take the message of Universal Health Care "on the road" headed for Washington D.C.

The cross-country mission: To stop in big cities and whistle stops alike, advocating Single Payer Healthcare. Every move along the way will be recorded on camera and then edited and uploaded to the Internet that same day on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, MySpace, et al. This offers people the opportunity to follow them vicariously or join them in a caravan to Washington and help make a public demonstration of support for Single Payer Health Care.
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67 comments // Mad As Hell Doctors Are Off To The Races!

  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • A real doctor would toss in some free lipo while you're in the hospital, guaranteeing #1 you would be so thankful you would pay the bill and #2 come back to him alone whenever you needed further assistance.

      A real doctor would vanquish his competitors.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Mad As Hell Doctors

      "Spokane is a wrap. Sad to leave such a great supportive group. We are getting some shut eye and burning rubber VERY early to Helena, MT. The town hall in Spokane was 250+ in attendence. The Mad As Hell roar keeps getting louder. Thanks Spokane. Stay organized. Stay involved. These are the days people. These are OUR days. Stay tuned for Day 2 vid tomorrow. Good night."

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • I'm so angry. I don't even remember what he said. There was something about not wanting to disrupt things so they are going to wait four years to implement it. 18,000 people a year die from lack of coverage, four years will be 76,000 more dead. Please someone tell me I'm wrong. That's freaking cold blooded.

    • 2 years ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      No Marilynn_Murray they are talking about as soon as the bill is signed a safety net in place for the people without insurance for loss of job or catastrophic medical issues. In other words the 500 billion that you may have heard that was put away for this will probably be the source such people can use. The insurance exchange will be up and running sooner with our help and making it so. I hope you are enjoying the tour I wish I was there.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      Kenny, I am taking the trip vicariously. I'm taking the Doctors posts from their face book page. Looks like they are starting to get media coverage, and some people have joined their convoy. I hope the gather up a couple hundred cars or more by the time they get to DC.

      I wish I hadn't got so angry. I will have to find it somewhere and listen again. I hated everything I heard. I expected better from him.

      I

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Mad As Hell Doctors
      "The Spokane rally was fantastic. Over 100 supporters, 3 docs on 3 different tv stations, and ahuge march in a high traffic spot. Couldn't of been better. Great local stories and speakers. We all just ate a great catered buffet c/o PNHP. Can't wait till the MAHD town hall at 7. Gonzaga U. here we come. Thanks Spokane. This is what it is about!!"

    • 2 years ago
  • denport
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      denport  
    • We try to do something as an individual and as a group of concerned citizens. We recently got a group of us and made signs that we put in various places. We were surprised that they lasted a week, we thought they would only be up for a day. these signs said "health reform will not create death squad panels" " health reform will give you a choice...public or for profit insurance" "health reform will not force you into a gov't plan" Health reform (HR) will not give free medical to illegal aliens" "HR will not end medicare" "HR will not drop you if you get sick" "public HR will create real competition" "public option will not give its administrator 10s or 100s of million $ compensation" "VA the best health care in the world is gov't run" "medicare is gov't run" "social security is gov't run" We made 2 to 3 signs of each, about 40 sign all together. We used old political signs and staples new paper on them. Some were Republican signs.haha

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Mad As Hell Doctors
      "No Seattle Rendezvous in the morning. If you planned to meet up we will see you in Spokane, WA at the Red Lion (303 W. North River Dr. Spokane, WA) at 2-2:30. Big rally in Spokane at 3PM and the MAHD Town Hall at Gonzaga Law School's Barbieri Courtroom 7PM."

    • 2 years ago
  • frankiestapleton
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      frankiestapleton  
    • It's totally understandable that everyone can't go to DC. I'm gonna go into debt (something I NEVER do lightly) to fly there from the island in the middle of the Pacific where I live.

      But it's the challenge of creating a critical mass of people showing the force for justice, for bending the moral arc toward the justice of the cause.

      As in the Civil Rights march of Aug. 28, 1963 (see: www.infoplease.com/spot/marchonwashington.html ) And there are those who say health care reform is a civil rights issue too! (See last week's Newsweek article by Jonathan Alter)

      I was challenged by a staffer at MoveOn to do this when I objected to the constant solicitation of funds by all these PACs for airing of TV commercials, and for rallies in communities around the country. All well and good, but to be truthful, people don't watch TV commercials anymore. There isn't even a dominant network or channel everyone watches (except the lobotomies watching Fox News).

      Even NBC wonks are saying, according to Time Magazine's Sept. 14 Jay Leno cover story, that media reality is "that big audiences are getting harder to find...as viewers turn to cable, skip ads by recording shows on DVRs or watch online." Times writer James Poniewozik says network TV's "mainstream has shrunk, if it exists at all."

      So why all these appeals for money for TV ads? And why all these community rallies? Local news stories??? Gimme a break! Is this recent tact possibly the latest underhanded Karl Rovian tactic to keep the progressives chasing their tails?

      Let's create a critical mass in Washington DC at a specified time and place to show the WORLD, especially the President, the Senate, and the blood-sucking insurance and pharmaceutical corporate vampires what the American people want...a reasonable, true, thought-out, economically feasible national health care system for all!

      And if you can't be there, do everything you can to help get others there! Let's create a critical mass...IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO!

      Aloha, Frankie Stapleton

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Apparently you didn't donate to the cause Loon. I didn't have you deleted. Maybe staff was cruising around and noticed something inappropriate? Trundle your little bundle down to the IRS, who gives a shit?

    • 2 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Who is paying for this junket? Surely not the Docs. Surely not you. I do not want to pay for you to go on Holiday, and I suspect that most taxpayers will back me up! Go ahead and delete my comments again, because my next complaint will be to the IRS! And I expect to collect a reward for reporting the nefarious dealings in the medical industry!

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Not everyone can go to DC. I would like to see rallys in as many places as possible for those that can't make the trip. We can be in DC in spirit and celebrate where we are at.

    • 2 years ago
  • frankiestapleton
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      frankiestapleton  
    • We ARE planning a rally to welcome and join with them in Washington DC, on Thursday, Oct. 1!

      We're trying to create a critical mass on the grounds from the White House to Capitol Hill on the afternoon of Oct. 1, similar to how the civil rights movement coalesced in August 1963, where a quarter-million people gathered to hear MLK Jr.'s "I have a dream..." speech.

      Only this time, it's WE'RE MAD AS HELL AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!

      WE CAN DO IT! Email me at frankiestapleton@hotmail.com to get involved, let us know if you wanna be there!

    • 2 years ago
  • Inofuilwell
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Inofuilwell
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      Inofuilwell  
    • Let's a bunch of us buy a hippie van and go, too!

      I wonder how many health care companies will pay to send their own hired "hippies" to act like protesters against the protesters?

      On Keith Olbermann's Countdown program, he had video of Blue Cross Blue Shield Townhall Shoutdown Creep who forgot to take off his BCBS Anthem logo work shirt.

      My God, they've even paid for their own HIPPIES for Chrissakes.

      That ought to prove that insurers have WAY TOO MUCH MONEY TO SPEND.

    • 2 years ago
  • Inofuilwell
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      Inofuilwell  
    • It is not too late, MM! Let's stay on this. The Senate could be won with a conventional 51-49 vote. It should not take 60!

      I'm for single payer universal health care and for people realizing that a "public option" is not the same!

      I am also for sticking a microphone in every Senior Citizen's face who is a Townhall Shoutdown Creep yelling for the "government to stay out of health care" and asking him if he wants to give up HIS government health care (Medicare).

      Most of the irate ones who are doing all the yelling don't think Medicare is a government-run health care program. They are idiots just like the rest of the Townhall Shoutdown Creeps..

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • You are absolutely right. The veterans are begging for care and most refuse care at the veterans hospitals because they are awful and staffed by rejects from a horror movie.

      Senior citizens are stacked like cordwood waiting to see a doctor, or get into a hospital.

      Forget about the children on Medicaid, Public healthcare is not good enough for you. Go without. Now that's a plan.

      Anyone that doesn't public healthcare send instructions now to let Medicare know you won't be signing up at age 65.

    • 2 years ago
  • Progresshiv
  • brit50
  • Inofuilwell
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Mad As Hell Doctors
      "We made it to Seattle town hall after freaking out security at St. Francis Hospital. They, and we, had no idea so many cars would show up. The care-a-van was somewhat disorganized but thanks to all the brave travellers who stuck with it and made it t...o the venue.
      And thanks for the patience as we work out the kinks in the system. We are making this up as we go. It is going to be a great adventure. And smooth sailing."

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      Medicare and Social Security would not be bankrupt if they hadn't taken the money out for the General Fund. The debt is always going to be there. I would like them to have single payer healthcare for all. At least we would get something out of having a huge debt. Our Military went to Iraq and all I got is overpriced oil.

    • 2 years ago
  • occhipij
  • Inofuilwell
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      Inofuilwell  
    • occhipij:

      Screw your attitude! I hated paying school taxes for them to turn out all the Townhall Shoutdown Creeps.

      So I paid taxes to teach you to read and write and you're too good to pay for someone else's health care?

      Maybe I don't like your tax funded War in Iraq or the tax funded murderers at Blackwater now calling themselves Xe, either.

      I think all those who ever got military protection, police or firemen, mail, public drinking water, traffic signals, interstate highways, libraries and 12 grades of school paid for should simply sit down and STFU instead of being Townhall Shoutdown Creeps.

      Any other brilliant analogies from any more of you TSC's?

    • 2 years ago
  • Inofuilwell
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      Inofuilwell  
    • occhipij:

      You still drank public water, had police protection, fire protection, highways and all the other stuff maybe I don't need. As far as attacking Iraq, a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11, it was a falsely sold manipulated war I still don't support!

      And, BTW, I have EVERY right NOT to support that war and to protest that it was politically motivated and should not have cost the life of one single American or Iraqi.

      Now, YOU, under 45 know-nothing, who didn't learn the proper spelling of "anyway" in private school, YOU, sit down and stfu.

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Thanks for the post Marilynn-Murray, the doctors started their tour in downtown Portland at 10 am this morning and I have as well been preparing a Declaration Of War against the American health Insurance companies. This is serious business we know who the murderers and terrorists are and the obstructionist that have aloud the deaths of thousands if not millions of Americans during my lifetime. Don't get in the way obstructionist your just going to get your ass whooped.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Perhaps this will be viewed as naive but wouldn't a lot be solved by just making the doctors and all hospitals into Non-Profits? Shouldn't health providers be on the same level as churches? Doctors already act just like the minister anyway, just they don't wear a special collar. Other than that they're all cut from the same cloth.

      So when we go in and get health services we toss money in the plate as we are able! Yeah. They serve us not we bow to them, I could get into that brother.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      True. But why should a doctor who spends 8 or 12 years expect to soak the rest of us for the next 20? If you're going to be fair about it soak us for 8-12, not twenty or 30.

      I was speaking of college/seminary-trained ministers. Your making a stretched exception is a poor argument. Getting desperate eh?

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Gravity_Man:

      That is a great idea. Our local hospital is a non-profit, but they still have escalating health care costs.

      Whatever the form the reform takes, their needs to be simultaneously 'tort reform' as well so that the non-profits won't get shut down by a lawsuit.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Mad As Hell Doctors MAHD Kick-off. 100 in attendance. Great music by David Rovics. The Nurse Band sounded awesome. "Winnie" looked beautiful. The docs nailed it. Really great crowd was very supportive. Congress went back to work today, but the real wor...k just began. The docs are on the road to Seattle. We rendezvous at St. Francis Hospital, 34515 9th Ave. S., Federal Way, WA.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Name: Mad As Hell Doctors
      Category: Organizations - Advocacy Organizations
      Description: ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, A CARAVAN WILL CROSS AMERICA TO DELIVER A CLEAR AND SIMPLE MESSAGE TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN WASHINGTON: HEALTH CARE FOR PEOPLE - NOT PROFIT!

      This Fall the Rubber Gloves Hit the Road!

      We are a small group of Oregon-Based doctors who care. We believe there is only one way to control costs, one way to remove profiteering from the system, one way to reclaim the care of our patients, and one way to be sure everyone is covered: we must replace our current pay-or-die system and with a comprehensive, publicly financed, privately delivered, Single Payer system that puts people first. Our moment to take a stand for Single Payer is NOW. We may not have another opportunity like this in our lifetime. Please support this unprecedented road trip to real health care reform.

      Contact Info
      Email:
      Website: http://www.madashelldoctors.com
      Office: www.madashelldoctors.com

    • 2 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      Did you say remove profiteering? Well , maybe you should all bring your w-2's along to explain the the income levels of U.S. Doctor's vs. Doctors in other countries. Also, be sure to provide the perks provided to you from Drug companies, especially Pfizer who was fined $2 billion for bribing and influencing doctors prescriptions using illegal methods. I personally know several Doctors that force a ceratin drug company to pay for their vacations in return for prescribing certain drugs. I hope you march and open the door for a massive investigation into the medical practices employed by corrupt physicians, their staff, and drug companies.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      Loon, Does it bother you that Doctors make a good living? They spend many years and lots of money in schools working toward their degree. They earned every bit they get.

      These doctors you know, all confessed to getting free vacations? I have a problem with that in that I just don't believe it.

    • 2 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      No, of course they did not confess. But I do know what companies paid for the vacations (my ex-wife worked for a drug company). You failed to answer my claim about Pfizer being fined $2 billion for unethical payoff's to Doctors , as well as paying Nigeria $150 million in damages for unauthorized drug trials on children, that led to many deaths. The medical profession is not the solution, they are a large part of the problem which includes unneccesary tests and procedures designed to enrich themselves.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • I am agreeing with your saying except the last sentence. By this time is kinda of late to convince any adult to do anything. However independent of any of their decisions, the truth is here and out there. Unless the collective conscience realizes that our life and body is not for profit and we are not a product but human beings and the insurance corporation of america should stop playing pirate and go profit on products instead, there will be no change to anything on healthcare. Let us at least rally and support single payer healthcare.

      "What is the price of Life?" Only 2:55 min
      http://current.com/items/90880678_what-is-the-price-of-life.htm

    • 2 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • I am astounded that anyone can think that rude comments will win supporters from the opposing camp. It merely hardens the resistance against your point of view. I don't even know what a "teabagger" is, however it is poor diplomacy and doomed for failure. Unless, of course you want "teabaggers", to gain more support. Vinegar does not catch flies. Honey is the secret.

    • 2 years ago
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • MoonLoon:

      Yeah because the conservatives are certainly trying just so hard to make this a bipartisan effort. Their shouts that Obama is a muslim, communist, terrorist trying to destroy America are all very logical and work well to win over people from the other camp.

      BTW a "teabagger" is the name for the group of conservatives who are against taxation or something along those lines. They held "tea partys" early on in Obamas presidency as a form of protest.

    • 2 years ago
  • MoonLoon
  • Marilynn_Murray
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  • jubal
  • csmonut
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • What I mean was not "important news" but hyper news. There are a lots of people here remaining passively dormant, shooting themselves in their own foot, being themselves distracted and in addition been distracted by others waisting time on hyper news and far out issues that cannot be resolved.

    • 2 years ago
  • bluestranger
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      bluestranger  
    • It's good to see that at least one of them has had military service.When I was in the Navy we and our dependents received excellent health care. Hopefully teabaggers will have enough sense to not get in his face with any socialism nonsense.

    • 2 years ago
  • Chique
  • Marilynn_Murray
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  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • We went to war because 2,976 people were killed in the 9/11 attack. Why aren't we willing to fight for the 18,000 people that die every year from lack of healthcare?

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      The people in the towers were innocent... so I guess people who walk into the clutches of a doctor don't meet that criteria. They aren't innocent because they should know that last year 18,000 people died from U.S. healthcare. And that 18,000 then wasn't innocent either because they should've known the previous year 18,000 died then too.

      You just have to properly analyze who is and who is not innocent and then you can parse this stuff out more properly.

      Oops, wrong comment. Sorry.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      Yes, having an of day I guess. The number of people dying FROM U.S. healthcare is 10 times that number, many catching deadly infections like MRSA and many others catching stuff they didn't go in having.

      I totally jumped out of the gate headed the wrong direction!

    • 2 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      How many people die from staph infections caused by poor autoclave procedures in the U.S.? How many lawsuits are filed and settled for poor physician care in the U.S.? Millions and Millions of Dollars! The march should be for quality treatment rather than supporting a pack of well paid professionals that regularly fail their patients, yet still get paid outrageous sums for poor performance. Of course they still get a paid vacation to the Carribean, courtesy of the drug companies or other providers of medical services and products!

    • 2 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Totally agree with you Marilynn! In addition to that I think some people from the Current Community needs to wake up! Chasing hyper news and not causes isn't the solution for anything.

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • Mad As Hell Doctors
      "Let's restart the effort and take Health Care legislation off the table until the Spring session of Congress. In the meantime, let's use HR 676 as a starting point for a new health care conversation and empower MAHD physician-citizens to seek out the best minds from America's vast resource of inspired health care professionals. We will then assemble these individuals into a working team that does not include anyone from the private Health Insurance Industry, the Pharmaceutical Industry, or anyone currently holding public office. Their assignment will be to craft a thoughtful, actionable single payer health care model, uniquely tailored for America, that the entire country can comprehend.

      MAHD will then present this model to you, to Congress, to the Senate and to the entire country for their consideration. In the true spirit of competition, let all comers do the same: craft a plan, present it alongside the other plans and submit it to the American people for their review and approval.

      Health Care is too important to rush. As physicians who have sworn an oath of care, we feel that health justice is the next great, social movement in America that will restore dignity and security to this generation and to generations yet to be."

    • 2 years ago
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