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Obama Vows to ‘Deliver on Health Care’

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President Barack Obama (D) gave a powerful speech to a joint session of the United States Congress on health care reform. He defined precisely what health care legislation should look like. Though Obama did not demand a public insurance option, he vigorously defended it and criticized those who use the debate around it to score political points. The President argued that providing health care to all is a matter of the nation's character and soul. If his proposed plan passes it would mark the end of an almost 100 year old battle on the matter of health care.

Mr. Obama ended the speech on an emotionally charged note saying we could "kick the can down the road...But that's not what the moment calls for. That's not what we came here to do. We did not come to fear the future. We came here to shape it. I still believe we can act even when it's hard. I still believe we can replace acrimony with civility, and gridlock with progress. I still believe we can do great things, and that here and now we will meet history's test."

For full text of the speech go to this url
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/us/politics/10obama.text.html?pagewanted=1

So what do you think about the President's speech? Do you agree with the goals he laid out? Please answer thoughtfully.
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177 comments // Obama Vows to ‘Deliver on Health Care’

  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Like I said in the other post; Obama's speech was just a speech. That's it! Just a speech! I am remembering along his lines that he expressed some points. However it is a compromise with the ones that are the cause of the problem. The real truth is that time speaks more than anyone's speech and in the mean time people are dying while the government, the media and the insurance corporation in charge are taking their sweet time manipulating the issue. Very cruel behavior indeed!

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • maof4brats
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      maof4brats [removed]  
    • You know even if he didn't personaly write the whole speech which he did he is the one that presented it with such passion. Read his books you can get them at the library so you won't have to pay for them and possably give money to him. He never has a goast writer and his words are just him.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • current89
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      current89  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      @Marilynn

      I respect your position on single payer health care, but if we kill this now, folks with pre-existing conditions will not have protection for a long time, the un-insured won't have some semblance of an insurance option and no foundation for a stronger government option will be available.

      As the quote goes "we can not let the perfect be the enemy of the good"

    • 2 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • iamaman
  • maof4brats
  • katiekrafka
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Sometimes the statement someone makes doesn't show up....and then later it's there.

      I'm sorry for posting this not where the actual person replied to me...but I cannot seem to find it and I've seen other people have similar problems, so it didn't annoy me when they did this....hopefully this doesn't totally bug anyone else.

      --------------------

      Now to really bug you on "purpose".....

      I did watch the speech. It was long, boring and snide. I could write better. Freakin', as I said before, a five year old could.

      I'm astounded that people think he's as good as he once was. No, he is not. Go to youtube and watch his speeches while he was trying to become President....100 billion times different and in a good way.

    • 2 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
  • J_Jammer
  • J_Jammer
  • iamaman
  • J_Jammer
  • jubal
  • RFIDemocracy
  • a3Minnovation
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      a3Minnovation  
    • This is one of Mr. Obama's finest moments. There was an incredible amount of realness in this speech. It was ballsy, bold, powerful, yet remarkably human and sometimes naked. I believe Mr. Obama has just gotten America healthcare.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • iamaman
  • TTrahan
  • samthesixth
  • Connie_DiNicola
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      Connie_DiNicola  
    • You are all absolutely pathetic - like sheep to a slaughter! I have not always been stictly Democratic or Republican but either way you look at it - I know when I am being lied to! READ THE HEALTHCARE REFORE BILL before you start defending a socialistic maniac!

    • 2 years ago
  • TTrahan
  • belkly
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Hello my name is Obama of Oops.

      *clears throat*

      let me now, if you allow me after you rediculiously long pandering applause, sing you a song you want to hear. I know who will like it and I know who won't, but I don't care to unite anyone...I too only love to pander to one side more than the other. Excuse me while I sing a song to said choir.

      Wow that was a long song that was not only pandering but dry, boring and totally trite. The day I actually get back to giving speeches like I did on the campaign trial are forever gone. I am now just a boring subtly bully speech giver. I give the left what they want to hear and kick the right in the face over and over again because just like those fight videos on youtube where the unexpecting twat walks about ignorant of the beat down that's about to be upon them....I want e-popularity. In said video someone jumps them and friend films and everyone laughs.....I plan to be popular on attacks alone.

      Screw, you heard me right, SCREW backing my words...cause that's not going to happen. I rather do what I do best and that's TALK, even though now it's no better than a 5 year old's graduation speech from kindergrarten.

      I am glad you wasted your time listening to me. I once again controlled your hearing just long enough to make you love me again.

      Until next time when my numbers dip to a depth I don't like......good day and may you be as lucky as I am.

      Obama out.

    • 2 years ago
  • current89
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      current89  
    • J_Jammer:

      You do realize you didn't have anything constructive to say! I realize your goal is to make a more balanced current.com (from what I've been told) but acting like that will not help your cause.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • J_Jammer:

      There is no difference between this and what comments have been made thus far.

      As long as I read crap responses as I have....I'm not going to make an effort either.

      I mean if the President can't make an effort to unite anyone....why should anyone else?

    • 2 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • J_Jammer:

      If you want "balance", then post the stories you want to see. That's how Current works- it's ran primarily by the users. If the majority of users on Current.com are liberal, Current.com will lean liberal, plain and simple. If you want "positive" stories about religion or republicans, or a parody of democrats, post them yourself. It's really very simple. Again, if you want a change on Current, you are going to have to actually DO something, not just whine.

    • 2 years ago
  • mario_a
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    • J_Jammer:

      @J_Jammer -- to be quite frank, when it comes to the homepage, we work with what we have. what we have is the direct result of community contributions. if stories lampooning Democrats and speaking positive about Religion were to be submitted (and gain traction), they could be featured right up there alongside some of the other content on the homepage.

      if you take a look at the people whose content tends to gain popularity, they don't strictly contribute comments, or a single article to the site. they are active in groups daily (even moreso, hourly), they contribute several articles a day, and they take the time to promote their articles in other places (like facebook, twitter, etc.). doing this helps increase an item's views and comments, and in turn helps make it more popular.

      as DeliaTheArtist points out, there are Conservative and Republican focused groups on Current, but neither have been very active. membership is low, and submissions are very low.

      i know you do not want to have a room full of people who all share the same ideas, but that's how our site works. we have given our community the tools to create groups and gather people to discuss, collect, and share stories around a shared set of interests.

      it's up to you what you choose to do with it.

      let me know if you have any further questions,

      mario
      online community

    • 2 years ago
  • BenDorries
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    • J_Jammer:

      Looks like things got a little out off topic here. I've cleared out some of the posts that were more personal in nature, if you have any questions about this please feel free to email me.

      Yours,

      -Ben

    • 2 years ago
  • iamaman
  • Quincy_Darius
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      Quincy_Darius  
    • I personally think Government should change the name of our country to something more suitable like:
      The Divided states of America or
      Republicans.. and everyone else

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • iamaman
  • TTrahan
  • iamaman
  • Quincy_Darius
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      Quincy_Darius  
    • I was very annoyed at the unneeded clapping points... i can tell Obama was getting a bit annoyed and thought at one point, "God damn let me finish"

    • 2 years ago
  • iamaman
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      iamaman  
    • Quincy_Darius:

      that annoys me too. i'm guessing he wanted to make his point without the hype. the first few times he was mentioning the limitation of the public option.

      im guessing he's going to make welfare benefits include healthcare. i think its a good idea. the burden of uninsured emergency care has to be paid for anyway. that is how the medical industry has been off setting its costs onto the insurance corps (nonprofit or not).

    • 2 years ago
  • Quincy_Darius
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      Quincy_Darius  
    • I am not surprised at the difference in the responses found here on Current as opposed to the ones found on AOL news... its so sad the The UNITED States of America is so divided by Greed, Hate and many other pointless thinking that defines their meaning of Justice, Righteousness and the Meaning of America. Obama is that guy thats gonna kick you off your high horse... he damn sure isnt afraid to do it.

    • 2 years ago
  • libertyforall
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      libertyforall  
    • I've never understood how people are impressed when any politician gives a speech they didn't write in the first place. Congratulations, you are able to read. I am not impressed.

      When are people finally going to realize this is not about what is best for Americans? This is about government control and power and nothing more. There are a good number of delusional Americans out there. Sad to see they turn to government rather than trying to improve their lives through hard work. Tis the American way.

      By the way, anyone notice Obama now said there are only 30 million uninsured Americans now? I thought he said 47 million in June? Didn't he promise the uninsured was going to rise dramatically. I know I'm not great at math, but the number of uninsured appeared to have dropped by 17 million since June. We must be doing something right. Or Obama was lying once again.

    • 2 years ago
  • iamaman
  • current89
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      current89  
    • libertyforall:

      "I've never understood how people are impressed when any politician gives a speech they didn't write in the first place. "

      You know Obama does write his own speeches! It's a fact! But I guess facts aren't your strong suit.

    • 2 years ago
  • TTrahan
  • libertyforall
  • current89
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      current89  
    • libertyforall:

      Yo! @libertyforall

      REad the damn article

      "Jon Favreau has the worst and the best job in political speechwriting. His boss is a best-selling author who doesn't really need his help, having written the 2004 speech that catapulted him onto the national stage. At the same time, the same boss also happens to be capable of delivering a speech in ways that can give his audience the goosebumps."

      In addition, the top of the article says he's his editor. Thanks for the source that proves my point.

    • 2 years ago
  • libertyforall
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      libertyforall  
    • libertyforall:

      current89,

      Apparently you didn't read all that well......

      "But Barack Obama is more than a little busy campaigning across Iowa and New Hampshire right now. So it was Favreau who led the team that wrote Obama's victory speech in Des Moines last week—a moment that prompted the TV pundits to drop months of skepticism about Obama's candidacy to make breathless comparisons with the Kennedy era."

      Every single President has a multitude of speech writers. They don't have just one person working on them. If you think the President actually has time to sit down and write all his speeches you are delusional.

    • 2 years ago
  • Found_Avenue
  • beingwoman
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      beingwoman  
    • My home was full of folks from around my city in Richmond VA-we signed up for hosting a watching party.
      And we had some republicans and they supported our good President Obama. It was clear and we are ready to get to work! I felt one of the most important points was reminding us of respect and dignity for all Americans. There are many who want us to forget what it means to be a Democracy. And to care for all is a good deed and it is okay to respect people. And he explained that these shows and those in office who are lying to people and creating fear instead of working to make health care available for all. We the People are not a commodity- we need human being caring for human beings.

    • 2 years ago
  • nanac
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      nanac  
    • beingwoman:

      It was a very good speech.....I feel that our President reassured most Americans who are serious about health care reform..Our Country needs more good People like you and your Community, to support our President.

    • 2 years ago
  • asherp
  • Maeveeo
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      Maeveeo  
    • Now everyone ( meaning Assholes like Fox , & the REPUBLICANS ) will have their 2 cents ( i mean after all
      they have said about this President so far seems to be
      BULLSHIT ) i will say it again LET THE MAN DO HIS JOB ,
      And STOP taking every word he says like he is leading us all down the wrong road ( that was already done 8
      years ago ) & stop being SCARED ! cause i know you are !!!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • TTrahan
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      TTrahan  
    • Maeveeo:

      You kiss your mom with that mouth? Are you so stupid that you cant convey your point without lowering the value of this sight and everyone on it. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants and creed of slaves. Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; its force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. The people of the US are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts, not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the people who pervert the constitution. Read a book and get a clue. We don't want to hear from you until you have something meaningful to say.

    • 2 years ago
  • maof4brats
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      maof4brats [removed]  
    • I really hoped people and Congress listened to the President. I was impressed I can only hope that it passes. And once again I hope that they heard with thier ears and not racist eyes.

    • 2 years ago
  • TTrahan
  • Conniepae
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      Conniepae  
    • He can deliver, if he follows through and holds those who chose to spin lies and disinformation, like 'death panels', 'death books' and killing grandma. Those who choose to mislead using fear, should fear accountability and shame!

      It's time to hold them all accountable. We don't appreciate being lied to. We don't appreciate our friends and relatives being blatantly misled. It's too hard to counter lies with facts, when distortion and fact are spun as equal. Those who choose to use our airwaves for spin and distort, should be the first to feel shame and be held accountable.

      No one wants to stifle free speech, but I 'do' want to stifle the lies and distortion. Accountability and shame would put an end to media and politicians who chose to spin and mislead ordinary Americans. Trust is earned! Shame is too!

    • 2 years ago
  • stephenk29111
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      stephenk29111  
    • it was a great speech , but if you watched the speech, and paid attention to the standing ovations/claps/etc that he received..it was only from the democrats. I didn't see any sort of cheering/clapping, or any sort of appeal from republicans that all seemed to just stare in disgust about his plans for healthcare. It was a very well thought out speech and it did put an end to certain rumors as well as answer some major questions that needed to be answered. I find it funny that republicans had no problem funding a war that has become the biggest stain and joke on our reputation, but they cannot seen to grasp funding a universal healthcare program that benefits the working class Americans and costs less than the cost of war. 900billion over the course of 10 years. that's a drop in the pool in terms of the cost of the iraq/afghan war.

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
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      RFIDemocracy  
    • stephenk29111:

      It's not surprising given that the status quo enriches Republicans and Democrats alike. How profitable is public health care for politicians? Not very.
      Both rake in piles from the industry and neither really want a public option, except for the progressive Caucus and a small handful of Senators such as Bernie Sanders and Sheldon Whitehouse.
      Certainly nor Rahm Emanuel, you can bet.
      Until there are strictly publicly funded elections, and their are many political impediments to such a scenario, corporations will control all domestic and foreign policy forever.
      Thom Hartmann pointed out that an annual tax levy on every American of an extra 10$ on your personal income tax would provide close to $4,000,000,000.00 in four years to pay for a quadrennial Presidential election. Double it to 20$ and you could probably cover the Congressional elections as well.
      *That* might more resemble a democracy, unlike the current arrangement which is untenable. As long as the corps maintain a stranglehold on American politics, a state of quasi-fascism will prevail. As it stands today, voting is almost a joke, particularly Congressional elections. The traditionally low turnout is unsurprising.

      The other big problem America faces is it's current radical Supreme Court, but that's another discussion.

    • 2 years ago
  • bc_f
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  • TTrahan
  • Atalanda_Cameron
  • TTrahan
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      TTrahan  
    • Atalanda_Cameron:

      RonPaul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
  • TTrahan
  • RFIDemocracy
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      RFIDemocracy  
    • Atalanda_Cameron:

      "Why, because you keep what you earn?"
      Because you cannot have a nation or a society without taxes. It's not possible.
      Do you want your city contracting Blackwater for police and fire services?
      Do you want everything in your state and nation to be for-profit with no regulations or oversight? Ron Paul's Utopia is hell on earth. I don't buy into the libertarian wet-dream.

    • 2 years ago
  • rrawtry
  • beingwoman
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      beingwoman  
    • rrawtry:

      That was exactly what your President said- we are for freedom and thinking for ourselves- but sometimes we need to put things right- greed is a powerful drug-
      Honestly, this last quarter the CEOs of health insurance co. received bewteen 9-30 millions dollars- I believe ETNA CEOs got the highest at 30 million- now cool if they were making stuff or if when after 20-40 of paying them (insurerance) everyone got the full service and no one who was dropped very suddenly or denied anything the doctor said- cool. But, no that is blood money. There is allot of money involved in this. My Doctor said that their Physician Group studies show their pay has flatlined over the last ten years and that with reform there will be aprojected 400 billion dollar surplus in the healthcare.
      Freedom is never being denied healthcare when you are sick. This is too important to let the lies continue.
      Greed is a crazy thing- and if you listen to those at fox, or hate radio- they are owned by Rupert Murdoch and he is not an American. But, he is doing all he can frighten people and then he makes alot of money. and takes down people goodness and honestly by speaking untruthes and vulgar lies. Sigh, I know you think I am some fool who is letting the man get me- see I think that about you- and on one as stated above- I know and love my country and my government it all of us together- cable fake news is UnAmerican and they are making allot of money to lie . Cause Americans are awesome. and that means you too. Keep the Faith.

    • 2 years ago
  • libertyforall
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      libertyforall  
    • rrawtry:

      beingwoman,

      You are correct in speaking out against Faux News. However, do you sit back and worship CNN and MSNBC? I would find that quite hypocritical.

      And yes, you are a fool to let "the man" control anything in your life.

    • 2 years ago
  • hunzedog
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  • KillerQueen6628
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    • hunzedog:

      you must be one wealthy guy to be so secure in your judgments about your own medical future. lucky duck, let's just hope those terrible circumstances citizens face everyday, like speaker pelosi referenced, don't happen to you

    • 2 years ago
  • current89
  • asherp
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      asherp  
    • current89:

      The vouchers you speak of put federal dollars in the hands of private insurance companies.

      The reason private insurance companies suck so bad is because they are for profit.

      Where's the reform in sending federal dollars to inefficient companies that suck at providing services?

      Why not just put that money towards Medicare for All?

    • 2 years ago
  • current89
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      current89  
    • current89:

      I guess I don't care whether we have to waste some federal dollars in the process. As long as a large portion of uninsured Americans can get insurance at an affordable rate, I think it's worth it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Found_Avenue
  • hunzedog
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  • current89
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      current89  
    • hunzedog:

      "this plan doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of passing..... "

      Well Dante (a famous philosopher) says that the 7th level of hell freezes over. So maybe it does

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
  • KillerQueen6628
  • hunzedog
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  • KillerQueen6628
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      KillerQueen6628  
    • hunzedog:

      HAHAHAHA you think YOUR paychecks are chopped up? well welcome to civilization, boy, if you ever want the US to progress as a country you're going to have to learn to stop being a slave to your wages. its called a community, and if you'd like to live in a nice one without someone begging for money for their daily expenses every filthy, dilapidated block, i suggest you learn what it means to give back. without the very minimum that we contribute to taxes now, i wouldnt feel safe going outside. if you want to deny people the capitalist imperative of HEALTH, you know to FUNCTION ECONOMICALLY and HAVE A JOB, then get used to the homeless, drug addicted, and those fallen on hard times just piling up outside of your elitist mansions.

    • 2 years ago
  • WakeUpPeople
  • TTrahan
  • WakeUpPeople
  • hollyMiamiFla
  • hunzedog
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  • kennymotown
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    • hunzedog:

      You didn't watch the speech did you or else you didn't hear, those unemployed or now experiencing a catastrophic health problem without insurance will be able to get medicaid. Seek some help for Stockholm Syndrome hunzedog.

    • 2 years ago
  • randomized
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      randomized  
    • Anyone notice the "republican response" right afterwards? I have never seen that before. That just goes to show those repubs are like children, where you try to explain something to them and then nod their head and smile (or clap) and then right afterwards go on to piss you off again. They already had a speech ready for when he finished? Wow ...

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • brit50
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      brit50  
    • I think the speech was okay. It was not extremist left and tried to appeal to the center. But, there where a few things he said that everyone knows cannot happen. He stated he could do it all for 900 Billion over the next 9 yrs. I think we all know that is not possible. He said he could do that by simply clearing the inefficiences already seen in the healthcare industry, and that would open up large funds able to support the system. If it was that easy we would of done that yrs. ago. It is gov't run, and nothing is efficient when it is gov't run. I also think it was funny how it took him 50 min to convey that message, he could of done it in 30 min or less. But, I did like how he conveyed the public option as "an option" you can take it, or not. Plus, private healthcare will still be available completely. This should help to drive down private costs which are unbelievably out of control.

    • 2 years ago
  • KillerQueen6628
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    • brit50:

      i don't know if you knew this, but obama is NOT a leftist- maybe in crazy conservative america, but if you think he will ever give a real speech to the left, you must think we actually have a diverse political party system! ha!

    • 2 years ago
  • beingwoman
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    • brit50:

      Last quarter in July 09- health insurance CEOs receieved their quarterly bonus- 9-30 million dollars- I believe ETNA CEOs got the highest each receiving 30 million dollars- and how- deny deny deny. And after paying for 30 years and not being sick--oops and IF you are not rich you will loose everything. over 50% of all bankrupties inour country are because of illness. We rank 37th in World Organization Healthcare because though we have the means to heal- the insurers choose not to let us. So infant morality is the highest in the industrization nations. Canada is 30th- Itlay and France are the best. And the Phsyicians Group did a study and with reform there will be a 400 billion dollar surplus in the health industry. A while back the car insurance was going through the roof it was made mantory to carry car insuracne but if you could not afford it the government had one to buy - so where are all the government run car insurance companies?
      This has to happen or we will fall as a Nation.

    • 2 years ago
  • libertyforall
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      libertyforall  
    • brit50:

      Private insurance companies make a 3% profit. That is an extremely small profit when put beside profits made in other industries. I'd be willing to bet corrupt politicians are making far more than a 3% return on a yearly basis. When did people grow to hate capitalism?

    • 2 years ago
  • drewsuf721
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      drewsuf721  
    • To address the mandate point:

      From Elizabeth McGlynn in the NYTimes,

      "Tonight the president outlined what he wants Congress to include in a health reform bill. One of the policies on which both House and Senate agree is the so-called individual mandate: a requirement that everyone purchase or obtain health insurance. This is in the House tri-committee bill, the Senate HELP bill, and the proposal released by Senator Max Baucus.

      Until tonight, however, it had not explicitly been part of the rhetoric of the president himself. The point could prove crucial. RAND’s latest analysis of options for reducing the number of people who don’t have health insurance shows that among all the options included in the bills above, the individual mandate would have the greatest impact on increasing insurance coverage. By itself, an individual mandate could increase the number of people with insurance by up to 34 million — a 75 percent reduction in the uninsured.

      The president said tonight that “significant details remain to be worked out.” Here is one: Penalties matter. Bigger penalties for not obtaining insurance are more effective than smaller penalties. Indeed, even without a subsidy, we estimate that as many as 21.5 million people would become newly insured (assuming a penalty of 80 percent of one’s premium, or $4,800 for an average individual). With a 30 percent penalty and no subsidy, about half as many would be newly insured.

      Here is another detail: Subsidies also matter. Providing subsidies to people who earn up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level (along with a penalty set at 50 percent of the premium) would increase the number of newly insured by 25 percent more than a plan that offered subsidies of only up to 200 percent of the poverty level. Subsidies (whether in the form of a tax credit or another mechanism) are what add to the federal cost of this option. The alternative is to increase eligibility for Medicaid — something the president did not mention tonight, but something that is more expensive on a per-person basis than subsidies.

      The individual mandate has now been described by the president and the Congress as a matter of personal responsibility. What does that mean? About 44 percent of the uninsured already have an offer of coverage through either Medicaid or an employer (their own or their spouse’s). Without a mandate, they will not budge. In short, an individual mandate could be the cornerstone of legislation aimed at seriously reducing the ranks of the uninsured."

    • 2 years ago
  • mgerlach22
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    • All I heard was "blah, blah, blah...health care, health care, health care." How many speeches are we at now with Obama preaching the same gospel about his dreams for this leading to single payer? 30? Doesn't he get it?

      He should look at the polls and realize that there are several polls that have Americans' disapproval of his health care plans over 50%. Why is he ignoring what the majority of America is trying to tell him to pursue his agenda?

    • 2 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
  • kennymotown
  • hollyMiamiFla
  • Sdizzle
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    • mgerlach22:

      First off this is far from single payer. I find that the fact it isn't unfortunate, but almost any reform at this point would be good reform.

      The latest cnn/opinion poll which shows a far different picture than you would like us to believe.

    • 2 years ago
  • beingwoman
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    • mgerlach22:

      I don't know where you are getting this from but it is not the truth- it is more like 38% are supporting Pre. Obama
      and then there is 34% who do not and then 23% who are not sure because there is so much mis-information out there like you saying 50% are against healthcare- and I am sure because too many of my friends do not have insurance, or were dropped or not enough and so millions of Americans are dying, suffering going to work while being treated for cancer- this is immoral.
      and I know my America is good, honest and not cruel and bullying their way.

    • 2 years ago
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