Wilson apologizes: 'I let my emotions get the best of me'

As expected people recommend posts that say nothing good.

What's up, JJ. I was wondering if I was going to get your obligatory disapproval. Ha, nice to see you never disappoint. One of these day, you're going to give me an actual opinion so we can talk about, well, something. Looking forward to that moment, my friend.

I think people would be shocked to realize that I agree with many things they state....

...however I'm not going to be doing any of that if people cannot do their part in making this site a little less lopsided.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all. You seem like a pretty level headed, albeit a sometimes unnecessarily argumentative person. And you know how this place is. People are going to color you based on what they feel rather than what you actually say. I've been framed as all manner of things based on what people's interpretations and perspective rather than what I am actually saying. And a balanced opinion is always needed. Personally, I think you would be better served just to share your thoughts and just let the chips fall where they may. Ha, and it would give me something to actually have to think about. So few here can carry an honest debate...

I'll decide what I want to do with your opinion in mind.

It's really annoying and a catch 22 to get things evened out. DO THIS AND IT'LL WORK..uh no. I've been here on this site for 1 1/2 year. I know how it works. I understand the politics of this site. I cannot do it by myself....nor do I wish to.

Things won't ever even out, my friend. Many people here, it seems, don't have the insight, or even character to express their true opinion. It just is what it is. Some people I just like to poke a stick at because I find the opinions so outlandish and bogus, but there are some good people here. For me that makes it worth sifting through the drivel. I enjoy talking to people who actually have a thought out opinion and can present a perspective that I had not considered. I couldn't be less concerned about the political leanings of this particular site. Its value is allowing me to speak to people that I otherwise would not have the opportunity to. Some use it as a place to talk honestly. Some don't. Put it's pretty easy to tell who is worth my word and who isn't. But trust my friend. Ha, you are not alone in that...

Good to know.

Then maybe you should keep your mouth shut.

J_Jammer thinks there should be more balance, while telling others to shut up. I think he doesn't really know what he wants here. He wants to convert us into being rude too?

Many of his comments 'push my buttons', I want to slam him back, but that is what he is being so rude for. He thinks we are all bad too. Don't feed his need to make people move away from issues, on to bickering.

Bickering with people like J_Jammer is like pissing in the wind. Why bother? Move along and respond to those who are genuinely trying to communicate. Don't waste time giving J_Jammer a voice, ignore him, he's not trying to gain balance, unless we are talking about balanced rudeness.

What was that three year old rant about?

Too much whining for anyone to actually understand. That's ok. We can just ignore it.

Oooo, you're so mean. Ya hurt my feelings. Are ya done yet? Or, do you feel the need to get us all?

It's a good thing the left has Current for their spin.

Well J_Jammer, you are free to 'move along'. Current is not equal to 'tv news spin'. People choose to come to current and other sites to comment. Ordinary Americans turn to news they think they can 'trust' for facts.

So-called news should not be spun, led by opinions. Real news should be based on fact!

Well liberals are changing current to their trash talking site.

Obama would be proud.

Jammer, there are plenty of right wing people that make very valid points on this site, and they are recognized for them when they are made. To name a few

Moonloon
samthe6th
Alkamail

and I am sure a few others that I am forgetting. They say inflammatory things every once and a while, but so do the more intelligent left wing people on here.

You on the other hand, as has been pointed out on this very thread multiple times, do nothing but antagonize and never add anything relevant to any of the conversations. You run around waving your limp ____ every where screaming look at me look at me, and no one wants to see that s***. Is that in plain enough english for you?

You can't get what I'm stating, why should I bother with what you're stating.

Double standard someone else.

And every time I prove his I'm mocking him and everyone else...because no one is proving to be any different.

But you are part of the choir so expecting you to see past the notes would be asking too much.

Tactful?

Something Obama was not.

- something Obama was not -

Ah, Jammer, ever the consummate master debator! Most would feel compelled to offer up some whisp or shred of supporting material to defend their statements but that kind of argumentative tactic is beneath you

Actually I found Obama to be extremely tactful. His speech was great and he handled the heckler with extreme grace. He was the very definition of tactful.

Delia as per our discussion over the meaning of the word "outburst" I think it safe to conclude that Jammer uses a different dictionary than many other people so I don't think he will readily agree with that definition of tactful.

Sam, I could tell him his own name and he'd still disagree with me. I don't even know why I bother.

Of course you found him tactful.

You like him.

That's like someone who is republican defending Bush. NO BIG DEAL THERE.

He was not tactful. Taking digs at people that you wish to unite...NOT TACTFUL. Subtle attacks NOT tactful.

And you're not tactful. So trusting you on what is and isn't tactful wouldn't be wise.

---and by the way tact is beneath the both of you and your gang of liberals.

I have as much proof of that as that parody of a republican has factual legs.

Reid didn't interupt a Bush speech so his examples are non-relatable or comparable to this sitaution.

Some Democrats booed Bush in one of his speeches (as did Republicans with Clinton perhaps starting the trend) but they didn't throw out accusations.

There is quite a difference between "boo!" and "You lie!"

Agreed. I just thought it important to point out that rude behavior comes from both sides of the aisle. Hence, my desire to see both parties replaced by parties of the people.

If anyone cared what the founding fathers said there would be no parties.

actually jam-jam it was the founding fathers who founded political parties - the federalists and anti-federalists. It was George Washington just one founding father who warned against them but others like Hamilton and Jefferson created them.

He warned against them because he said it would split the country in TWO.

Oh...CIVIL WAR...

and NOW.

Looks like he was right.

actually it already happened around 1861 but again only one founding father was against political parties though he favored Hamilton's Federalist party

It's still going on right now.

I don't care who he favored, it doesn't discredit what he said.

what is discredited is your knowledge of history

you need to check the dictionary again, jammer. A speech is not an outburst. A shouted accusing interruption is.

I can say whatever I want.

If facts matter most of what y'all post wouldn't even make it through your finger tips.

yes you can say whatever you want even if it flies in the face of Websters and Logic

No difference in that and your post or anyone else's post who are "liberals" and especially no difference in the choice of 'news'

What the heck are you talking about, Jammer? You're getting even more incoherent these days.

Obama's speech was planned and necessary since a lot of people were still confused about what was in the health care bill. Just a few weeks ago you were complaining that he "doesn't care" enough to explain it to people. Now he does and you call it an outburst?

Whether or not you like this story, it's certainly political news.

- No difference in that and your post or anyone else's post who are "liberals" and especially no difference in the choice of 'news' -

And that makes no sense whatsoever to what I posted. The simple fact is that a scheduled organized speech is not an outburst. An accusatory shouted interuption is an outburst.

If you cannot see the difference in that simple fact...

Ooh I'm sorry. Intolerant to view other people's (liberal's for the most part) posts as retarded? Don't you love that word? I think you don't....I believe you don't. But there is no other word to discribe how this site is pandering to people who are liberals for NO FACTUAL bases.

I have decided that I will use the word retarded as often as I see any hate on religion and republicans and love of pot articles. The moment there is an equal balance (as it can be) between all lines of thought on these three retarded issues....I will drop the word from use.

And yes Obama's speech was an outburst. Every sentence was a single pandering outburst.

Don't like it? Don't care.

You have a chance to alter that. Make things more better. I don't think anyone will bother....therefore I won't bother to try. It's time to annoy all of you the way your posts annoys half the world. The half that is silent, but now they can chuckle silently that the medicine is being taken by those that have given it for far too long without tasting it themselves.

Your description of me could describe anyone of you....

I will repeat to you - I am not responsible for the way you act and neither is anyone else on Current.com. Being a child and using words like "retarded" only portray your own stubborn prejudiced mind. "It's time to annoy you"? Are you kidding? That is in fact the only emotion anyone feels when dealing with your bullshit. Well, maybe pity too.

Yes. SO much more childish than people trash talking another political view because they don't understand it.

hahaha.....blinded by the bias.

It's cute.

And so I continue on my hunt of the liberal ra-tards (like the hangover stated)

Jam-Jam, you ain't making a lick of sense, son. Best lay off the hooch.

If you did that you would be getting more than what you already don't.

eh? seriously, jam-jam, is it too much to ask for a little coherency in your responses? Or even an actaul argument one could debate?

Why do you ask for what you don't deliver?

I did - I countered your assertion that there was no difference between Obama and Wilson that both were outburst. I pointed out the difference between a speech and an interruption. You have yet to show how Obama's speech was an outburst.

And back to the beginning I like how you voted this down just because you didn't like it. News is not a matter of whether you like or dislike something

Wilson's opponent has received up to 100,000 dollars in donations since LAST NIGHT.

Assumption Fail.

Nice one!

yeah, f*ck manners and civil discourse!

We should all just yell whatever crap we feel like...

Except for the liberals. Clownpuncher HATES liberals no matter what.

No he wasn't, illegal immigrants under a specific amendment to the house proposal will not receive health insurance.

If he legalizes all the illegals a la Reagan, then of course illegals won't be getting health care. There will be no more illegals.

Mmmm, I do not think that will happen Sam. To clear somethings up though

Bush proposed that idea, and was shot down so thoroughly even he dropped it... so even if Obama had the inkling to open the borders he would not because he would loose to much political clout by merely suggesting it.

Secondly, our immigration policies are chocking us. We are letting in day workers by the score... or they sneak over, and we do not need any more blue collar workers, we need to reduce the number we have. Then we make it damn near impossible for skilled workers to come in. H1 visas are incredibly hard to attain for engineers, chemists, programmers... all things that we have a shortage of workers for... incidentally Obama has made obtaining such a visa even harder FYI... I stay pretty up to date on this stuff because I have a friend who is Indian with a masters degree in engineering that is busting it trying to get a visa... he has applied to over 6000 open positions and none of them will sponsor him for the visa because it is so hard to get and it is a risk to the company hiring someone who might not be able to stay... that is ridiculous... partly that there are 6k jobs not filled even in this economy!!!

There was an interesting report done by the Council of Foreign Relations cfr.org on immigration, they are a very bipartisan think tank, and are good at looking at things from all angles. Anyway, this particular report was chaired by Jeb Bush (who is a whole lot smarter than his brother) and it explains the immigration problem from the excess blue collar and squeezed white collar perspectives very well.

This a a link to it
http://www.cfr.org/publication/20030/

It costs $8 at Barnes and Nobles
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=9780876094211&am...

The real problem we have with immigration by the way... is them not paying taxes because they are working illegally... when they work legally they are all but citizens in the respect that they do not cost us anything. I agree with you that immigration is a problem, it just has a whole lot more angles that most people are not taking into account.

Milch,

I will read your links. Thank you. I agree that immigration is a multi-faceted problem.

I don't think he represents all Republicans but he does represent a prevalent mentality that has afflicted many in the party and this afflication dates back to the first year of Clinton's presidency and the rise of popularity of Rush Limbaugh.

There has been a festering visceral hatred growing in a number of republicans particarly of the social conservative/neo-con bent which drives many of them to such lengths as blatant hypocrisy and ironically even unpatriotic behavior despite their flag waving - rush hoping Obama the president would fail for example.

Level-headed republicans if there are any left need to curb their excesses and push them to the fringe.

Tyr, you have a lot of good ideas and a relatively keen thought process. You seem to have developed a blind spot in some areas though. Being from a certain state doesn't define a person. I am from Texas. On most political issues the majority of my fellow citizens and I disagree. At the same time it aggravates me when someone calls them names. That's my job. Unless you live in S.C. try not to denigrate it's peoples. There is most likely a person living there that thinks the same as you, right up to the point where you demonstrate a sense of superiority.
We all make statements that we wish we wouldn't have. I make at least three or four everyday. When someone points them out i always think of a quote that my daughters like to remind me of. "It's not what you say it's how you say it".

Very good post Tyr!

We will see Hancock

Although he'll be chastised publicly, I wager that many wish they actually had the cajones to sound out and call "bullshit." to BO!

Dude your comment just made my day.