Frozen vegetables 'more nutritious than fresh produce'

mmmmm, fresh organic with the BUGS satisfies for protein! We who are about to die SALUTE YOU.

O M G, you're a sneaky chef! :)) I love the idea of sneaking veg into things. I was just looking into this. Perfect for picky children, and, in my case, husbands!

AMAZING ADVICE!

would be nice if we could trust companies to do it for us, but no trust anymore.

Yup. I'm a big fan of square-foot gardening, too. I get a lot of produce out of a small space. They're not huge crops, but they're plenty for my husband and me. Growing veggies is very fun and rewarding, for sure. :)

well put

That's where I'm confused. I do eat organic. I pay more for better produce. The organic veggies in the store sit there a while because most people buy the cheaper veggies. So, by the time I pick a pepper, take it home and eat it, has it lost all nutritional value? If it has, that's a bummer...

When vegetables are canned they are cooked and much nutrients leaches into the water while they're waiting to be sold. So I drink the water from the can and get my 40% extra what I paid for!

LOL good point, Gravity :)) I'm much more wary of canned veggies than I am of frozen ones. Isn't there some scary chemical in the linings of canned produce? BPA, I think...

Yeah, but that's why you get plenty of selenium from multivitamins. Selenium helps absorb "scary chemicals". I've also read some good information that sugar cane sugar makes our cells more slippery so the scary chemicals slide off better instead of making themselves to home. Try Vitaglo dot com for that. Or the local co-op over on Grandin Road.

Very good information! :) I'll definitely look into that! Thanks.

Purslane is classed as a weed. I've never eaten it but I recently read a lot about it. It's said it is the 8th most abundant weed in the world. I'd like to get my hands on that little weed and wring its scrawny neck I mean oops have some to eat.

Well, it certainly grows like a weed. Wow, I had no idea. I wouldn't want to eat it... but it is very pretty.

But, but, but, that's what people are doing. They're eating it, getting the LIFE FORCE from the Purslane. People are growing it and selling it as a Cash Crop.

I haven't found out any more about it though. I don't know if they eating the plant, the flowers or the roots or what. Maybe they just throw it all into a Jack LaLanne blender.

Very interesting. A quick Google search provided a wealth of information on the health benefits of eating Purslane. Hell, maybe I DO want to eat it then... Why not? I have tons of it. :)

"Purslane just happens to contain alpha-linolenic acid, one of the highly sought-after Omega-3 fatty acids." http://landscaping.about.com/cs/weedsdiseases/a/purslane.htm

Thanks again!

I have quite a few recipes that use purslane if either of you are ever interested in trying. Depending on where it grows it can either have a nutty subtle flavor, or a bitter flavor. Either way, it's going to taste however you flavor it.

It's used in many medicinal ways as well, good for the liver!

Purslane has almost 50 names from one country to another around the world according to what I read. If it grows as fast as you and everybody else says, then the old adage that "we are what we eat" seems like if we all wanted to be extra strong so we can fight off these darn flu germs... we should be eating the stuff.

If you add to that purslane all my other Health Tricks I posted on my thread "Prospector's Health Tonic Tricks" http://current.com/items/90879038_prospectors-health-tonic-tricks-they-didnt-hav... (/90879038_prospectors-health-tonic-tricks-they-didnt-have-no-vaccines.htm) seems like to me we should all start growing YOUNGER.

And on top of that richer. My opinion is that you could probably greatly increase plant growth rates by doing hydroponic.

Actually you don't want but so much of the Omega 3 it's bad to do that. You want more Omega 6 because it has Conjugated Linoleic Acid that's hellacious good for ya. My health tonic formula has more of the Omega 6 and I also take a great Fish Oil 1200 MG capsule from Nature's Bounty once in a while also.

My tonic has small amounts of many ingredients to avoid overdoing it on any one thing, but it does contain a significant amount of microwaved onion juice that seems to give it extra maturation from the microwaves, as if it got extra growing time.

annabell, I would love to try some recipes. I'm a fledgling cook, but I love to try new things.

Gravity_Man, you are giving me such a good education today :). I'm glad and thank you. I have heard, however, that microwaves are just bad, dangerous and to be avoided. What's your take on that?

I remember when microwaves first came out and a number of people were afraid the "radiation" would get in the food... not realizing all the waves were doing was vibrating the moisture to cause heat. Something about the water molecule have two poles I think.

So that was wrong. However I've also read a very respected fellow named Dr. Sears in Florida who points out that some foods can be producing toxins when microwaved.

Microwaves age food so like if you buy store-bought tomatoes and they are shipped less than ripe, you can put them in the microwave oven and age them enough to complete maturation. That's also the secret of my health tonic, heat-advancing the yellow onions, squeezing the bioactive agents from them.

But whether you're taking the purslane or fresh seed sprouts or tonic, the idea is to be taking in cellular material and getting the life force from it to make our cells have that force. In which case we become energized and transformed into being disease-killing juggernauts.

In the case of any young women getting pregnant and growing the new child, that life force will help produce a very healthy and energetic infant at birth. In other words, we start doing things like people used to do when the country was still a farming community. We have to do that for the coming era of Space Travel.

Microwaves break complex chains of amino acids, such as are found in protein and B12, rendering them useless to your body. They are not unsafe, unless you have a pace maker, but they do thoroughly degrade the nutritional value of your food.

One Size Fits All statements like that cause my red flags to perk up. We get microwaved as humans by the sun so their must be value there. Perhaps there's a Wattage threshold we should not exceed. My cheap microwave only has Low Power.

Type A personalities demand Full Power and probably do lose out. Maybe that's a good reason why Type A people die of heart attacks so much, they're eating microwaved foods after they totally wasted them with Highest Power microwaves settings? In their haste for fast food they give themselves no food just bulk roughage while thinking in their Mind they just ate a satisfying and nutritious meal.

I seldom cook with a microwave anyway. I heat water for tea. I cook hotdogs in a pot and boil them half to death to boil out a lot of the food additives and stuff. Hamburger gets cooked in a skillet, rice gets cooked in a pot. Gee, I don't cook at all with the microwave.

The pizza place and Burger King don't either. Wow, by mistake I was doing the smart thing.

I never did like cooking food in plastics plunked down in boilling water. I never trusted heated plastic. I did however trust teflon and teflon-coated spatulas, which was probably a mistake. I have likely ingested my share of teflon and biphenyl plastic, but I never purchased filtered water sold in plastic bottles. Never trusted it.

Generally speaking, a good measuring stick seems to be the easier something looks or is, the more likely it is harmful. When we take the easy road, a lot of the time there's a payback coming somewhere.

But there are some notable exceptions such as my car engine that combines liquid air droplets into a steam-filled engine cylinder, creating a massive explosive force yet w/out any pollution whatsoever. Another exception would be my health tonic. So I guess the world needs to stop everything it's been doing and start doing things Woody's way.

hahaha got'cha! Hmm, altho the idea has some merit. NASA has no intentions of getting humanity in Space just a few "qualified" people they call astronauts. My two anti-gravity engines make it possible for EVERYONE to do Space Travel. Hmm. Maybe my way has a lot going for it....

Here are some studies to ease the pain of the one size fits all statement... it is formally known as protein irradiation.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18586081

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T42-4KCRSD0-1&...

http://rpd.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/122/1-4/106

And here is one specifically dealing with the same process when it involves the sun and your exposure to it.

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1667/0033-7587%282000%29154%5B0151%3AKETURR%5D2...

It is also good to remember that the sun is not exposing you to levels that are as concentrated as a microwave is exerting on your food... the only time you will ever be exposed to that level of radiation personally is if you are required to go through radiation therapy during cancer treatment.

I much appreciate your efforts to enlighten me about sunlight. The last time I let a girl at the hospital shine radiation at me she assured me "oh, this won't do any harm", a statement she had no knowledge or right to say. She melted part of my ear cartilage that continued to burn 24/7 inside my ear cartilage she roasted internally for 3 and 4 years.

So I guess she was like you, wanting to put the old fart down on his back by using Facts. The problem with quoting books is that the person who wrote the book doesn't know how many nor how extensive a sunburns I received as a child... that many times had multiple layers of skin coming off.

YOU can state how sun microwaves isn't very strong all day long but that means little to me. Radiation is relative. I avoid doctors AND their stupid hospital staff just like they're a FULL BLOWN PLAGUE ON THE LAND because they practice one-size-fits-all medicine.

You trust the books I'll trust my inner instincts that tell me who my enemies are and/or have the capacity to be, because many times my instincts were RIGHT. It was only when I let my guard down that this fully qualified lady X-Ray Technician did her best to fry my brain.

No thanks Mitch. Neither you nor she has eased my reality.

Doctors have a thalidomide mindset. They practice one-size-fits-all because they find it totally acceptable for a certain percentage of people they help are destined to either die or end up some level of crippled forlife, all done for the rest of the people.

I'm not "the rest of the people". I'm just me. I suffered genetic and congenital issues most doctors do not have time to take into consideration. Therefore nobody is giving me a vaccine that is TAILOR MADE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.

I've had Lyme's disease twice, cardiac failure, heart failure, infarction, heart valve prolapse given me from weightloss drugs from GNC (one-size-fits-all damned again). I was given Parkinson's Palsy and drug-induced Alzheimer's from prescription drugs considered SAFE FOR EVERYBODY.

hahahahaha You can swallow your line all day long Mitch, I'll sit over here and watch thank you very much.

I disagree with you about the doctor part.

The radiation bit and not liking x-ray machines and the like... that is exactly what I was saying, and we are in complete agreement...

If you understand that being out in the sun for a few hours can give you blisters on top of blisters, then you certainly understand that higher concentrations of that same concept can not be good for anything that you wish to preserve... like your self or your food.

We are close to being on the same page. I've probably been protected from the nutrition-stripping of microwaved foods that you uncovered by being fairly poor, therefore unable to purchase the hi-power microwave ovens. Using cheaper ovens afforded me better food.

I've not blistered on the outside. There is an intense burning going on underneath the outer layer, epidermis. Like so many other things, moderation is a protection. When we fly too close to the sun we get burnt. When I was a child there was so much we didn't know.

My Mom believed in letting me learn lessons and then, after getting burnt good she applied vinegar to draw out or neutralize the acid she said. A lot like what doctors do, back end medicine, after-the-fact. Shoot man, in the 1950's they hadn't started calling it cancer. Women just called it "the sickness".

Mom didn't know she was moving me toward cancer... but I did finally learn a few "lessons" that I've done my best to tell others => http :// tinyurl .com / 6k2wkd ways to become really powerful again and fight diseases ahead of the fact.

I'm glad for you Mitch that apparently you have had real doctors in your life who served your needs. My experience has been the opposite over in hell somewhere. I came to find out the doctor who delivered me had fixed my sister-in-Law during her first delivery... and I recall the shame my Mom was dished out from her Mom for not having more children. Well, that shined a whole new light on why Mom didn't have more children. Same doctor, going around playing God.

I could fill this page with more but what's the use. Obviously I've had a target on my back since conception... and that has nothing to do with you. But the miracle of it all is that after the doctors left me having 245/140+ blood pressure for 3 years (2003-2006) and my lung capillaries were exploding, the miracle is I have a God in heaven who saved me... and then He gave me the great honor of delivering these many new ways to make people super healthy, to the utter dismay of the medical profession.

Perhaps they should have whipped out a rope and a pickup truck bumper.

Oh I love purslane. I don't know if it's the same kind you're talking about, but mine blooms almost constantly and grows very easily from cuttings. You don't have to deadhead it. Very pretty, fun lil flower. My fall garden is coming along pretty well, full of organic produce that will most certainly be fresh when it hits the table :)) I'm excited!

Kroger? I have them, and its the only store I generaly use but I don't think they are available in most cities. Also why a preference for Kroger?

"Farmers Market Produce also lasts weeks longer than the produce at the Mega Corp stores." I'm curious, where do you get that info? I've researched this pretty thoroughly, and, from what I've gathered, all veggies begin to lose their nutritional value quickly after they've been plucked from the vine (or whatever). Also, many sources suggest produce at "mega corp" stores actually lasts longer because of all the chemicals and genetic modification. But lasting longer is not necessarily a good thing :) Just curious. Thanks.

Yep! And all that sitting time plus being watered by the grocer and people sneezing on them is a great germ incubation at work. Freezing skips all that. Now if we can just start flash freezing cows.

Aren't there scary chemicals in the linings of the cans? I read something about that... And it sucks, because I love my canned tomatoes :)

The acid content of canned tomatoes yep, it might pull more biphenyl from the can liner. Hopefully not so much corn, peas, green beans. But if the veggies are losing their value during the walk home from the store... you have also aged and need less anyway!

"People sneezing on them..."

Guess what I'll be thinking about next time I visit the produce section! :))

Mmmm....candy!

you're so clever! love it!

lmao ;P (@ sourbob's van and candy)

thoughtt provoking comment you have there... hmmm... bullshit... *nods* excellent point i guess... if your in highschool.

The wholesale produce I buy for my restaurant, is picked in California, 2 days trucked to Dallas, there about a day maybe 2, and shipped overnight direct to our restaurant about 5 hours away. And it's great quality.

In a grocery store especially if it's a large or even a national chain it's a much longer lag time from farm to store.
Flash frozen is done with liquid nitrogen, -320f, less cellular damage to the produce, sure it's still a bit broken down when thawed, but some veggies, like peas, or corn are in many ways, better because the sugars haven't had time to convert to starch, they taste sweeter and fresher.

Flash frozen isn't necessarily the answer to all produce, but nether is local grown, most areas of the country only have about a 4 or 5 month growing season.

Sitting waiting is still classed as distribution in this sense as it has to be distributed from the store to your house to be eaten, every hour of sitting damages it (less time for some fruits and lesser for stores that don't store the food in fridges)

A lot of food goes to waste due to this, so much fruit and veg just scrapped and probably thrown in to some garbage pile instead of being re-used for farming.

Luckily if you know some people in the stores, you can usually grab some free fruit and veg

Well said.

Those were my thoughts as well... to further suspicion the article did not provide any reference to the "research" or who did it.