Are Vaccinations the Cure for Disease, or the Cause ?
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jubal
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Here is a story from Scarborough Country talking about an HIV tainted vaccine used in the US for a short time and then they discovered it was tainted and decided to repackage and sell it in the world market.
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jubal
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jubal
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Here is a link into another investigation of tainted vaccinations.
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jubal
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jubal
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Here is a story about an investigation conducted by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. into tainted vaccinations cover up.
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jubal
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jubal
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In all, in the past, prior to 9/11, I would agree that vaccinations have been a great service to mankind and saved the lives of millions of people. But since 9/11, corporatist fascists have become encouraged to abuse their power and are planning all sorts of horrible things for us "Ginny pigs." 9/11 destroyed my trust in many human institutions, including trusting vaccinations. I realize that this puts me in a terrible situation because there is no way for me to be satisfied that the science is safe, that the people involved with distribution of the vaccines are trustworthy or that the manufacturers don't have secret agendas in mind when they "accidentally" send out vaccinations with "live viruses" in them. Remember the story recently about Bayer sending out infected vaccinations to Eastern Europe? I think it was Bayer.
Spreading disease so they can cash in on the treatment is part of the business plan to make profits from human suffering.
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jubal
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jubal
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jubal:
Sorry it wasn't Bayer, it was Baxter.
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jubal
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Vierotchka
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With regard to the video you posted, hunzedog, it merely recounts the extremely rare cases of damage from vaccines. There are a thousandfold more cases of deaths and damage from the diseases than from the vaccines.
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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...but, by all means do not get vaccines for yourself and your children - we are far too numerous on this earth.
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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Vaccinations do not cure diseases, they prevent them and do not cause them. If one looks at the statistics of death or permanent severe damage - from the diseases for which vaccines now exist - before vaccines were developed, compared to the statistics of these deaths or permanent severe damage since the introduction of vaccines, it is abundantly clear that vaccines have saved hundreds of millions of lives.
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Vierotchka
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jh64487
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last thought. if you've got issue with a certain vaccine or company than that's one thing and you should address that. hell i'd support that and so would infection controllers if you can back up your claim. but this blanket label that "vaccines are bad" is not only ignorant but dangerous.
welcome back ebola, welcome back smallpox. come join the party polio! whoo!
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jh64487
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jh64487
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yes yes, conservatives always fall back on relying on "personal stories" whether in church or in a political setting. while it's cute and touching it's not honest.
the fact is vaccines are one of the greatest modern medical advances in human history. god only knows how many millions of people have literally been saved by vaccines and how many millions if not billions have been saved enormous suffering, crippling or maiming.
if you'd take two seconds to actually THINK about the enormous benefits vaccines have had globally and stopped trying to connect it to conservative politics (paranoia really) you'd be a lot better for it. (so would your kids).
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jh64487
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hunzedog
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step right up , test your luck !
150 bucks a shot, hell its gotta be good 4 you ?
right,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,right ? - 2 years ago
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hunzedog
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hunzedog
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this is gardacil. this is old news. they only had 21 deaths and nearly 10,000 "adverse reactions".last year But that doesnt mean they quit selling their drugs !
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hunzedog
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hunzedog
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GARDACIL BY MERC.....SOON TO BE APPROVED FOR BOYS TOO
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hunzedog
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hunzedog
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PART 2 look up gardasil ! i think it was called h5n1 ! i think it killed 30 and made thousands sick ?
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hunzedog
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jubal
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plusaf:
There is a long chain of circumstantial evidence that leads to the conclusion. Since I have been personally affected by HIV, I have made it my business to understand all the aspects of this disease and its ramifications, both as it impacts my life, by liberty, and my finances.
I have had a long time to ponder this issue and have done a considerable amount of research. I have saved the stories on a computer I own and have been collecting them over the past 16 years since I was diagnosed. I have probably had the virus for almost 30 years now, maybe more.
My medicines cost over $30K annually.
In a nut shell here is the skinny about why I have come to this conclusion.
Scientists have been working on genetic fingerprinting for a long time. They mapped the entire human genome and phenotyped Mitochondrial DNA coming to the conclusion that all women on the planet came from "one woman" which for bible thumpers was a "I told you so moment" to scientifically "oh shit" moment. They explained it as a bottleneck in the human genome some 15 to 30 thousand years ago where humanity was reduced to a group of less than perhaps 100.
Anyway, microbiologists had been working on genetic fingerprinting for HIV and other viruses all over the world. Soon after George Bush and Cheney took the White House, these microbiologists started dying, once they had finished the fingerprinting. They started dying in a large proportion statistically than people die from other causes based on their association or profession. In other words it was just weird that so many of these scientist died who worked on this project.
One day researching on Google, I stumbled upon a story written by one of these microbiologists who published his paper as an HTML for people to find. It was about how HIV was not a natural virus that had developed in the symbiotic tradition. It was a spliced virus. Two distinct DNA sequences were spliced together and resembled two other well know and treatable viruses. I always try to take all these things with "a grain of salt" so to speak.
But things add up after a while and you see a pattern.
Another paper I ran across was discussing a plan that was hatched at the Vatican in a conference just before the turn of the last century. Studies were undertaken to ascertain what the world would be like by the year 2000; a hundred years into the future. The meeting was held at the Vatican and they invited the ruling class to the meeting and they discussed the projections. They determined that the population of the planet would reach 7 billion by then and that the earth's natural resources would be pushed to the brink. They must begin in earnest population control methods that would stave off disaster. One proposal was dismissed out of hand, the proposal to institute world wide birth control technology. The Vatican rejected that proposal on religious grounds citing the sacredness of life and birth. But they could look the other way if people were dying from immorality.
In the 60's the Congress passed legislation authorizing research into biological weapons with the goal of producing a biological agent that could be lethal to most of the population, could be destroyed with an antidote, and also could be controlled with prophylactic treatment, basically rendering the biological agent dormant while the prophylactic is administered. The aim was that the biological agent could be used to control people in other countries or get rid of certain populations deemed hostile. The provision for this research was buried into a defense appropriations bill that most of the dim witted civil servants in Washington didn't even bother to review thoroughly.
There is more but I am running out of characters.
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jubal
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jubal
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plusaf:
Here is a more recent link to the story that first appeared in the NY Times. This isn't the only one but a sample, OK?
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jubal
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jubal
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plusaf:
One more to ponder.
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jubal
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jh64487
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plusaf:
dude, i expect better of you jubal.
there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that the holocaust never happened, and that we never went to the moon, and that jesus is coming back in 5-50 years.
...if you choose to believe it anyways.
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jh64487
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jubal
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plusaf:
I didn't say that I 100% believe the conspiracy theory, but with all the BS being pulled by Insurance Mafia, the Pharmaceutical Mafia and our own government, I remain skeptical.
I don't trust any of them. Especially after what happened to me in Los Angeles. Look up Reagan Alfred Bloomingdale Marvin Pancoast Vicki Morgan HIV Contaminated Polio Vaccinations Texas AM University and Pancoast's Father or Grandfather who worked on the project with the German Scientist who invented the polio vaccination that was widely used in Africa, I can't at the moment remember his name. There is a book about the whole affair called "An Inconvenient Woman." The author recently died. Morgan was Bloomingdales mistress and was going to expose her videotapes of Washington S&M parties attended by recent Bush Administration folks who were also part of the Reagan Administration back in the day.
I was called into a "so called" county STD clinic, after the heinous incident with Pancoast and Morgan who were personal friends of mine, setup in the offices of a Parks and Recreation department to receive a test. When I got there I was forced to accept a shot and told to return a week later for a second shot. They had a 6'2 intimidating looking person of color looming over me and blocking my departure when I tried to leave when they insisted on injecting me. When I returned a week later to get the results of my STD test, the clinic was gone and no one there at the Parks and Recreation office knew WTF I was talking about. That was when I decided to leave California and move to Oregon. WTF did they actually inject me with? Why all of a sudden after Vicki died and Marvin went to prison did I get a phone call from these people? Who were those people? I kick myself for being so trusting of "so called" authority figures.
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jubal
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jubal
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Oh yeah, why did I bring that up, because the theory of population control origin is that the virus was spread through vaccination trials in the US and government mandated vaccination trials throughout equatorial Africa. It may well have been spread into Haiti, too.
It would be so simple to deliver a biological agent into your blood stream and circulatory system through a vaccination.
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jubal
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Darevalo
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this is one more reason we need to reorganize the FDA.
food and drug administration my ass.
freeloaders and douche bag association if you ask me.
first... monsanto
now this.and people think obama is hurting the country
(but apparently this indecent is disputable)
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Darevalo
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bailey78
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They can stick me with all the crap they want after I'm dead....
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bailey78
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jubal
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You know that one of the theories about HIV is that it is a genetically modified virus that was initially created for population control purposes. However the virus proved unstable and mutated into other strains, especially after the pharmaceutical companies began to develop the chemical concoctions changing the cellular functions to essentially cause the virus to become dormant. As long as you take those pills you have an undetectable viral load. But the moment you take yourself off the meds for lets just say a month, the virus comes back. And you run the risk that your virus has mutated and it might develop a resistance to your same concoction, and you would have to get this extremely expensive genetic test that phenotypes your virus and test it against all the known drugs to determine the level of resistance.
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jubal
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plusaf:
Want some Kol-Aid?
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bailey78
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Darevalo
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plusaf:
same is said at global warming.
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Darevalo