wow thats fucked up BIG time....

This is fucked up.

The freedoms that this nation is founded upon are routinely scorned and violated by the Taliban Wannabes called "Child Protection Services." Insulated by confidentiality laws, and legal immunity, CPS wreaks havoc on fundamental family rights.

How do I know? My son was taken from me because he was almost killed by a hospital, due to extreme incompetence, and I complained. I was charged with "criticizing doctors," which the hospital reported as "emotional abuse." It took 20 months, $120,000 in legal and medical costs, to get him back, and have him treated by a qualified practitioner. Because of the enforced errors, he is disfigured and disabled for life, and I cannot sue, because the statute of limitations for medical malpractice expired while he was in the care of CPS.

CPS costs taxpayers billions of dollars, and does (literally) untold harm. 70% - 80% of the prison population came through the foster care system.

Stand up for freedom, and stand up to CPS. "The truth shall make you free."

Soo.. i was watching the Americas Funniest home videos & was wondering.. What about them?
A Video of a naked child (albeit covered in stickers & Splenda Sweet) then the removal & Pixeling out of genitals, i started to wonder.. What the Hell.. this is the distribution of naked child pictures with the solicitation for Profit (money) is this child porn as well.. I mean i know its a re-run so what about all the times it has already been shown?

Were i to follow the "Wal-Mart Logic" this would be child porn and the parents would lose their children & lawsuit would be held against ABC.. is this what the world has come too?

Ashli_Garrod, you point out the real treat to our families and I completely agree with your comment
"time i have children, I would like to know howthey are going to be raised, by the standards and morals I have set for them, or the the ones that have been set by our government and any other type of service that has nothing better to do than tear apart good families and homes."

EDIT: Distraction of family is a big and very profitable industry funded by federal grants.

This makes me so sick! I am currently writing a paper on the topic of children services and our government taking things too far! Honestly?!?!!? Who are they to say we can't take certain photos because they declare it to be innapropriate!!! I can't even tell you how upset this made me! yes there are people who cross the lines BUT the ones that do make it very apparent as to what their true motives are! I have 6 younger brother and sisters and taking photos is something we all do on a regualr basis! I am 21 and my adorable little brother (at the time of the photo) was about 1 year. I was giving him a bath and eh thought it would be funny to throw water at his sister and then continue to try and escape bathtime. Perfect time to get the camera out. I only have to wonder if i had decided to go to wal mart that day and develop them instead of print them out at home, how much trouble that would have gotten me in. Honestly, by the time i have children, I would like to know howthey are going to be raised, by the standards and morals I have set for them, or the the ones that have been set by our government and any other type of service that has nothing better to do than tear apart good families and homes. Well here's to you all that think you have the right to state your opinion about how others raise THEIR children...NOT YOURS...THE HELL with you all. And find a new hobby like collecting books.

This makes me so sick! I am currently writing a paper on the topic of children services and our government taking things too far! Honestly?!?!!? Who are they to say we can't take certain photos because they declare it to be innapropriate!!! I can't even tell you how upset this made me! yes there are people who cross the lines BUT the ones that do make it very apparent as to what their true motives are! I have 6 younger brother and sisters and taking photos is something we all do on a regualr basis! I am 21 and my adorable little brother (at the time of the photo) was about 1 year. I was giving him a bath and eh thought it would be funny to throw water at his sister and then continue to try and escape bathtime. Perfect time to get the camera out. I only have to wonder if i had decided to go to wal mart that day and develop them instead of print them out at home, how much trouble that would have gotten me in. Honestly, by the time i have children, I would like to know howthey are going to be raised, by the standards and morals I have set for them, or the the ones that have been set by our government and any other type of service that has nothing better to do than tear apart good families and homes. Well here's to you all that think you have the right to state your opinion about how others raise THEIR children...NOT YOURS...THE HELL with you all. And find a new hobby like collecting books.

Personally I think the cops who reviewed the photos probably got woodies themselves and since they got aroused decided that the pictures must have been intended as erotica for adults.

Obviously if it gave them a hard on, the parents must have had that intention......NOT.

Walmart violated their customer's privacy and seriously abused their trust. The seem to hate all their customers.
I stopped shopping there 2 years ago as the atmosphere and service were terrible. After reading of their latest outrage or publicity stunt I will never go back
there. America will be better off with Walmart so I hope that couple win enough to at least send them back to China, or preferably N Korea or any dictatorship wher they truly belong!

I had a case about 15 years ago in which some pictures turned up of two girls, ages 5 and 7, who were naked exept for some finger paints on their bodies. They were smiling and giggling in the photos, so nobody thought too much about it until one of the girls started reporting nightmares and the other reversed her potty training.

As the story unfolded and more evidence came to light, it turned out that Daddy had a bit of a problem involving the "need" to finger paint his daughters. Even then, we were hopeful that things hadn't gone too far...and that is when the videos turned up.

Still (by far) the worst case I have ever worked. So while I am with the mainstream here in the sense that we let our young kids go pretty close to naked around the house in the Summer -- and we could barely keep clothes ON our oldest...the little nudist -- nonetheless, there really IS a dark side to all of this, of course.

That dark side may be present in just a very tiny percentage of cases, but it is there and it isn't going away... I don't know that the Wal-mart photo shop is best qualified to make those kinds of judgments -- but at least in the case I describe, the photo shop was the only party other than Dad who ever saw those photos until Mom discovered Dad's hiding place...

Ok normally i do not respond to things like this, But this is the stupidest thing in the world. I'll lay $1000 that there are naked baby bath pictures of that employee. This pisses me off. I hope the sue the living hell out of wal-mart. These photos are totally innocent. My heart goes out to the whole family and to wal-mart I will flip your store off everytime I go by. assholes

this makes me so mad. my first thought is "what the heck WalMart employee?"
second thought. they are just little kids and their parents arent dong anything wrong. everyone has naked photots of themeselves from when they are little.
i cant believe the kids were taken from their mother and father. i simply cant stand that.
they must have been so upset.

bzydad, imagine this for a moment. Your child is removed from your home and placed with the total strangers where he may not even be safe. You loose your job and your neighbors think you are a perv who is abusing your baby. You need to hire attorney to prove your innocence. If you still insist everyone was simply doing their job while practicing the abuse of power, abuse of your rights, abuse of your child, abuse of your family... then please define freedom.

Wal-mart did nothing wrong. They reported pictures to police like they are suppose to. Police where just doing their job also....the sad part is it took judge over 30 days to decide it was all "harmless". Anyway I could not see how they can sue wal-mart. It's their responsibility to report. I'd rather they error on side of caution.

I would sue the city for failure to provide adequate training as to what is and is not child porn. Then I would sue Walmart for failure to properly train it's employees as to whatt is and whatt is not child porn.

I can't imagine the city could have taken my son away because when he was potty training and he was outside, as soon as he thought he had to pee he dropped his pants. Or that he would run outside in his underwear (and if I was lucky he wore a shirt). I have pictures of him naked getting a bath in the sink and his brother too. These are on my wall. Should I be afraid??

And for what it's worth, a professional photography studio chain took pictures of my oldest, naked, with angle wings on. You couldn't see anything, but it was very clear he was naked.

I hate the sue happy culture we have become, but I would sue the hell out of everyone involved in this farce. Kids don't have inhibitions about being naked, that comes with getting older. This family is not weird at all, nor are the millions of other families that have naked pictures of their children. People need to get their minds out of the gutter. Or into it, because they clearly have no idea what porn is.

bloody hell...yes, your kids are cute in the bath, on the rug, finger up their nose...WHATEVER...but, I reiterate...this is 2009...if you want to put your naked kid's butt OUT THERE...THINK FIRST...everyone is in panic mode nowadays...this is the society we now live in...sad, true, and 9 out of 10 would never mean it to be other than a cute pic for the album...not the poor kid that developed them, not Wal-Mart, not the Police...they were doing their job...keep it at home...simple...

So the Walmart strikes again.. Its funny (not really .. actually a bit sad) that this nation is full of the whole "Cover Your @ss" culture that started with the Bush Terror patrol (If you see something Say something) is just an excuse for people to get into others personal lives. I am all for stepping up to the plate but sifting thru "144 family photos" & spotting Child porn.. come on you have to put thngs in perspective.
Meanwhile I am sure theres a woman in a tent in someones backyard that would love a few Nosey neighbors spoting some strangeness. God Bless America.

I remember seeing pictures of little babies without clothes. Every parent seemed to have them. This is really weird and I feel sorry for the family. Are all pictures of little babies without clothes pornography?

I would also like to add that i believe dyfs to be the modern day gestoppo they are above the law because they can do what they want with our children and noone questions it .I know as a child who needed help they only made it worse

this scares me because my family likes our clothes but my 14 year old loves to be dressed in as little as possible all the time .I am constantly telling him put on some clothes your gonna get me in trouble one of these days .he'll laugh and say what if i grow up to be a nudist .I always tell him thats great for you but not while your living with me .because of stuff like this .

After watching that video about their story, hearing the mother being suspended from her job as a teacher, thats just sad. Because now that i'm sure this story has circulated around their town people may not want her to teach back at that school or any or school for that matter just because she was put on that sex offender registry.

I don't think their case against Wal-Mart will hold much water, it was the city and the police department that royally screwed up the situation.

Honestly our society today is so screwed up with our morals and ideals and whats we see as acceptable and whats not.

It is an interesting debate. How much authority do we give the people we interact with to effect our lives. I find my self on the fence with this.

As a human I can see the absolute invasion of these peoples privacy by this Walmart clerk. In fact my mother works for a similar type establishment here in Canada and once told me of an employee who was fired for doing something exactly like this. The employee was fired for invasion of privacy and the evidence against the parents in this case was much stronger than some bath time pictures. I can also see merit in having instances like this reported. We need to protect our children so I think this needed to be investigated but I think it could have been handled a lot differently. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

However, on the other hand as a parent my wife and I are constantly snapping photos of our children doing almost anything including various states of undress. I would not consider these as child pornography in any way.

I think we can all agree that these people have some issues but I really thing everyone went more than just a little over board on this one. We should setup a set of guide lines that govern how and when these things are reported and how we handle the resulting investigations. There has to be a balance that protects everybody.

Just reading the posts makes my head spin and steam is coming out of my ears...
There are perverts and these need to be addressed but these are NOT the majority of the society...
People, where is the common cense? We are so hysterical that we lost ALL of the ability to think?
What's next? Taking pictures of your newborn child will be outlawed as they too may appear as porn. Has anyone think that in fact those who think innocent family pictures are porn may be the pervs themselves to think that? It is outrageous! We are brainwashed to be afraid of EVERYTHING and now we have nearly no rights. Some clerk at walmart was given the rights to destroy your family! Our Laws have given these rights to have your child taken away from you and placed with the total strangers, casing trauma to your children and family. The family now has permanent record that is very difficult and costly to remove. Wake up and stand up for the basic freedom to love and protect your children and your family before it's too late!

"When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun. Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all." -Tim Freeman

I think all this goes to show that people take too many pictures!!!

What is wrong with simply enjoying the moment and keeping in your memories??

how are you going to sue [Wal-Mart] for reporting what they deemed as child pornography? To you it may be some cute pictures during and after the bath but in this society who's to know what happening when the photos were took.

i've read several posts here that state...'well, if that is the case, i won't go to Walmart... 'download myself,' ...'go else where', etc. this just goes around the problem, and we don't get change. I cannot let a Walmart clerk establish policy on what appears to be a large issue here in the u.s, as opposed to europe, canada. But there is enough responsibility (or lack of) to make everyone think...what are we doing?? should we think that a 5.oo hr. Walmart employee will make sound judgement about an issue that the courts could not decide for years? an employee who struggles with 'where is the shoe dept? a case could be made against walmart for 'negligent training' once some one explained to them what that is. also, just because the police are called to a scene doesn't mean they have to "take action". they can and should explain that this is not a police matter and the caller should fell free to take photos to clerk-magistrate at courthouse for a decision above their pay-rate and way above a walmart clerk.other questions are 'who issued the search warrant for a private residence', and why? who authorized the seizure of computers and tapes?
why did it take the judge a month to make a ruling that the photos were OK? I hate to think what these kids must think of themselves, and the effect it will have for years, esp. when they hit the high school locker/showers.

Here is a video interview of the parents. SAD, SAD, SAD
http://www.parentdish.com/2009/09/21/innocent-bath-time-photos-get-kids-taken-aw...

The New Justice system - "People's court"...
The law allows anyone to use their own judgment of someone’s family, their children, family dynamics, the perceived appearance, and the innocent people are accused of the most horrific crimes. Family is easily ruined, children are removed from their homes, and reputations are distorted forever. After the family is destroyed and children are traumatized the authorities simply say the investigation revealed no wrong doing...
Witch Hunt and Rape/Molestation/Child Abuse Hysteria. Guilty until proven innocent justice system, and let's not forget the Patriot Act and Violence Against Women and Children Laws allow these kind of claims and accusations to flourish and destroying families.

It is sad that you can't take photos of your in fear of it being look at as child porn. what if was a picture of one of the kids sucking on a popsicle and some of the popsicle juice dripping down there chest. Now what if it was a attractive adult or woman in the same situation. witch one is sexual or are they both sexual? plus if they think this is child porn what about all the pictures of naked foreign kids in impoverished countries wouldn't that also be child porn. The definition of child porn is way too general to know exactly what it is.

child services always fucks it up. they take away the kids that actually have loving homes, and leave the ones that actually are being abused with their abusers. child services are basically useless.

another road sign to the middle ages. the puritan ethic is a poison that christians pour over the natural world. mind and body control meant to destroy our faith in ourselves. when i was in the seminary i was taught the principal of scrupulosity; to instill enough guilt in your parishiners that they do not sin and report the sins of others. the term is also used for excessive self abuse.
ben franklin said that a person should stand in front of a full length mirror everyday and seriously view themselves.

my mom would have been a child pornographer.. for years my mom had a pic of my brother an i in the bathtub wearing nuttin but my dads mail man hat. we were 3 and 6 years old. laughing and smiling and as happy as can be. to this day i smile thinking of the image that was on display in the hallway but visible from the family room.. walmart was out of line. the goverment is out of line. its sad that when my kids were little i was afraid to take the old standard bare butt on a rug pic if my lil guy..

(i would love a backround check on walmart employess.)

Have great day folks..

If the pictures they are not releasing are of the parents nude, then it would be easy to see why there is an investagation. I am grateful my parenting days are behind me. Humanity has truly lost it's mind. Come on 2012!

Time to buy a photo printer...

America: where you can't trust people to do anything anymore without taking it the wrong way. Thank you media for blowing this up and thank wal-mart for hiring morons that don't know what child porn is. Oh and thank the police for believing a giant corporation over the parents. Then again that's what you get for taking your photos to wal-mart because they'll be the experts in developing photos. Buy a photo printer (I'd recommend Canon) or take them to a ritz camera store next time.

This is pretty nuts. I was very surprised to see this. The fact that child protective services would take away these young children for a month is ludicrous. I honestly feel that this whole ordeal has the potential to damage these kids and I don't think it was necessary at all. Frankly, I would sue the hell out of Wal-Mart..

How about this-----"Come talk to, and see, and relate to, my children -AT ANY TIME-,...and if you dont think they are O.K..------------CONFRONT ME/ US/ MY NEIGHBORS? -----seem unreasonable?

O.k.----------so a lot of you think "don't ask, don't tell" family nudity, is a reasonable social compromise??? Really? Nudity is O.K. at home,....but don't develop YOUR PICTURES IN A PUBLIC SPACE? (Don't so much "be ashamed" as BE HIDDEN!?!) What a load of worthless gutless head-in-the-sand CRAP!

This is a parental right. To embarrass a child in their later years. Come on, we all have embarassing photos like this that our parents pull out inconveniently whether it be in embarassing sailor suits or bathtime photos this is a parental passtime. Its sad to think someone could go to jail for this or loose their kids.

wall mart is evil and if abc is so concerned about child pornography, why the hell are they trying to obtain the images like they say they are

I laugh when some of you still refer to the pictures as "kiddy porn" how ignorant do you have to be, so what if they took pictures of them playing naked in the tub, its children, its innocent pictures meant for their family only, granted they shouldn't have taken them to wal-mart of any place to get developed because regardless it waves a red flag to any picture developer when they see nudity of any kind, child, adult, anything period. So for those of you calling the lady who worked at Wal-Mart a jackass and what not, that was her job to report that , if she hadn't and lets say her supervisor or management saw those photo's she could have been fired for not reporting them.

Some of you people need to have some sort of logic before you post on here, the audacity and utter stupidity from some of these comments amazes me. I guarantee some of you that posted its ''kiddy porn'' if you asked your parents if they have a photo of you with just a diaper on or maybe your butt is showing as a baby, hell maybe even your totally naked, they would say oh yeah heres some in the old photo album.

Grow a fucking brain.

This article along with many others just shows the North American mentality. Coming from Europe as a kid I have several pictures taken me naked before or after bath, not to mention the baby pictures when all babies r naked. Strange enough nobody sued anybody over that or put their nose into somebody's business. Yeah I hope the parents win this case but I feel sorry for them what they had to go through because of that a**hole.

lame, I ran around everywhere naked when i was small and no one had a problem

why the hell are they takin kiddy porn, that is straight out disgusting

I really hope that they win. Everybody has embarrassing bath photos from when they were a kid.

yet another reason to boycott walmart, as if there weren't enough already.

This damned human race.

Non-sexual nudity is seen with the same eyes as sexual nudity. We are so immature about the natural body.

"I think that if they were taking porn pictures, they would never have them printed in a store. They would have print them at home or maybe keept them on their computer.
They had nothing to hide so they went to Wal-Mart..."...

Yes, and then they came home, and all sat around discussing E=MC2...

The only people that should be seeing your naked children SHOULD be NO-ONE...

I think that if they were taking porn pictures, they would never have them printed in a store. They would have print them at home or maybe keept them on their computer.
They had nothing to hide so they went to Wal-Mart...

Consider other scenarios.

The kids are being sexually abused and the parents took pictures to the store to get developed and the technician never did anything.

The kids are being sexually abused and the parents took pictures to the store to get developed and the tech called police.

Is it only because the kids WERENT being abused that the employee acted out of order? Would people be singing a different tune if the kids were being abused and the employee reporting it ended that abuse?

I am sorry for what this family went through but it could just as easily been a completely different story.

This is stupid on both parts. First It goes like this, how about by a computer and just upload them to the PC, who gets pictures developed anymore anyways? It's plenty of ways to print pictures at home with just a good quality.

Second, It would be stupid to assume that someone would be so stupid as to bring pictures of kiddie porn to Walmart.I would have just assumed that they were family pics and non more of it.

On the mom's part, stupid stupid MOVE! And this goes back to number one, LOAD THEM TO A PC! If you don't have one by one! I'm no pedo, but pics like that in my mind I would assume that if anoyone would look at them, family or friends even, they'd get an idea about me, and wonder. NEVER DO THAT AGAIN! DEVELOPER YOUR OWN PICS! They sell photo capable printers, and photo paper of all viable sizes at Walmart too. It's part if the reason that Ritz filed bankruptcy.

The developing process does not require seeing the photos. They have to make a specific effort to pick out the ones to see. They have no business looking at any of them.

OK...this is now 2009...and a lot of horrific things have happened to children. Millions of people take photos of their kids in the bath, and running around naked, and it's totally innocent...but it should just remain family memorabilia. But if you stupidly put them out there for public consumption, well, !!!!...I, personally, wouldn't want ANYONE looking at my naked children...

how many commercials have we seen that show a baby's bum? and that is not considered child pornography? what has this country come to?

When laws on child porn were written in this country, lawmakers obviously did not think anything through.
A child in a bathtub, a child playing at home, naked, is no big deal.
But this society has had child pornography so ingrained in their everyday life, thank you MSM, that a person can't even look at a child anymore, smile and say hello, without being accused of some dastardly deed.

That is so ridiculous...everyone I know has photos of them naked when they were a kid! Hell my mom has photos mounted on the wall of me swimming naked in the hot tub and running around in nothing but a cowboy hat when I was 4. Its a pretty big difference between kids playing naked and child pornography. Its a shame that obviously people were too paranoid that they didnt think and caused a lot of emotional damage to both the parents and children.

wow those developers had no business to look through their photos anyway, thats a violation right there. going around naked in ur own home is fine, but i think the parents are making a little too much of an effort to make their kids comfortable naked.

oh god i wanna kick all of them in the nuts.

i think its fuked that all it takes for people to take your kids from you in this country is a fukin photo... i would soon kill someone than let them take my kid (this is if i had one and its based on the fact that im super protective of my friends and family.. its how we do)

I personally like my clothes, but hey, if you wanna run around naked in your own home, whatever.

I know some kids who like to run around their house in their underwear, there are probably pictures of them running around in their underwear, but that's their deal, ya know?

I bet 97% of the population has photos of them at bath time when they were little, or worse, they have a naked butt picture. Should all of our parents have to register as sex offenders?

Then there is the true story of a lady who took pics of her son in to be developed. One was a cute picture of him peeing through a fence. The police were notified, she was arrested, and her experience was similar to these people's. And she was a professional photographer.

I bet that Wal-Mart employee does not have a family. Little kids are naked al the time. They should have known that these were innocent family photos.

There is a lesson in this story. That is that Wal-Mart employees are probably high school drop outs who are too dull to work any other job. Don’t have any private photos developed at Wal-Mart if you don’t want a fucktard like the one in this story seeing them. You could end up on the sexual offenders list because of their stupidity.