Terror arrest sparks gov't warning on mass transit
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Investigators say Najibullah Zazi, a 24-year-old shuttle van driver at the Denver airport, played a direct role in a terror plot that unraveled during a trip to New York City around the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. He made his first court appearance Monday and remained behind bars.
Zazi and two other defendants have not been charged with any terrorism counts, only the relatively minor offense of lying to the government. But the case could grow to include more serious charges as the investigation proceeds.
Zazi has publicly denied being involved in a terror plot, and defense lawyer Arthur Folsom dismissed as "rumor" any notion that his client played a crucial role.
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maasanova
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Abraham99, so some Muslims kill therefore all of Islam is evil? Seems that's what you are saying.
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maasanova
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Abraham99
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maasanova:
Hundreds of millions of Muslims watch with silence while their fellow Muslims murder openly, proudly, with purposeful attention and with invited media, every single day, in most of the countries of this world.
Are all Muslims murderers? DEFINITELY 100% NOT.
Are most Muslims silent about all the murders their fellow Muslims commit? YES.
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Abraham99
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Abraham99
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I have lived in the same apartment house with people who only walk out with pants and undershirts and not one has been indicted for murder. Therefore, people with pants and undershirts do not kill.
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Abraham99
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maasanova
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I've lived three blocks away from a mosque for years and there are obviously many Muslims in my neighborhood. I have yet to see Islam as this culture of death that you speak of.
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maasanova
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maasanova:
Just give 'em time, maasanova, just give 'em time....
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Abraham99
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Christianity is a religion of life.
Judaism is a religion of life.
Islam is a ..... - 2 years ago
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maasanova
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Abraham99:
What was a religion of life again Abraham99 (video included here)
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maasanova
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Abraham99
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Incredulous...
Excellent and humongously relevant and appropriate quotes!!
Thank you! - 2 years ago
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stopnoise
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Wow! I was going to tell that this news was created by the FBI but you guys are so smart. You got it! Now the only thing the FBI is protecting these days is the porn industry! All Transportation terrorists working for the Government, are free, free, free and making a good living harassing others.
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stopnoise
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Do you know that the General Media reported this a News? I heard on Channel 7 TV! Do you remember when they reported that a giant xfoot wave would hit San Francisco?
Who else heard this someplace else?
My God, News TV is getting worse by the day! It is like a Giant with lots of power and no enthusiasm to help the public. However they are very smart to take money from sponsors and advertising.
For that, I have to give my hand over to them. No one beats TV in that area as the World still full of fools!
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stopnoise
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maasanova
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This story reminds me how FBI had trained a Jew-hating racist to broadcast on his internet radio show to incite others into saying or doing something something criminal.
The FBI obviously has a criminal arm that is willing to create trror and crime so that they can come in and pretend that they are "protecting America."
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maasanova
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2helenahandbasket
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As we have become a more enlightened nation, we should should follow the rest of the world and create a kinder, more touchy-feely security alert system that will not cause anyone anxiety, as has been done in many other countries.
~~The British are feeling the pinch in relation to
recent bombings and have raised their security level
from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon though, security
levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even
"A Bit Cross." Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross"
since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran
out. Terrorists have been re-categorised from
"Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last time the
British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was
during the great fire of 1666.Also, the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to
"Hide". The only two higher levels in France are
"Surrender" and "Collaborate." The rise was
precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's
white flag factory, effectively paralysing the
country's military capability.It's not only the English and French that are on a
heightened level of alert. Italy has increased the
alert level from "shout loudly and excitedly" to
"elaborate military posturing". Two more levels
remain, "ineffective combat operations" and "change
sides".The Germans also increased their alert state from
"disdainful arrogance" to "dress in uniform and sing
marching songs". They also have two higher levels:
"invade a neighbour" and "lose".Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as
usual and the only threat they worry about is NATO
pulling out of Brussels.~~ - 2 years ago
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2helenahandbasket:
nicely done
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Incredulous
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Pat Condell on the liberal left PC MC appeasement monkeys and their cringing cowardice.
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maasanova
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It's funny that the media didn't report that this was just another failed FBI provacatuered event. This was a botched sting with overzealous police raiding the "terrorists" home before the FBI was able to set them up. The FBI was furious at the police for doing so.
And just like the first WTC bombing the FBI was working with an informant to set up some patsies, but the informant was working on both sides and he tipped off the "terrorists."
Here are the links to what really happened proving that the original posting is just manufactured media fear mongering.
Media hypes terror plot, despite the fact no one is charged with terror
http://rawstory.com/2009/09/media-hypes-terror-plot-despite-the-fact-no-one-is-c...
NYPD Denies It Botched a Terrorism Probe
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1925456,00.html
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maasanova
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Abraham99
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All religions do this, right?
Why is everyone so prejudiced against only Islamic terrorists? Just becausee the ones arrested are Muslim, that does not mean that other terrorists might be Muslim. Is the Obama government using the terrible and horrible practice of profiling??!!
All religions blow people up on buses and trains.
All religions cut people's heads off if they refuse to convert.
All religions walk around looking bitter and angry and upset and tense with eyes full of hate and blood.
Please do not single out Islam.
It is the religion of peace.
Don't all religions send people to America to explode our trains and tunnels and bridges and transit systems???
All religions are just like the Muslims, right? - 2 years ago
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bielski [removed]
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'''no offense, but you can pull the same sort of rhetoric out of the Old Testament.''
OK genius...put your money where your mouth is....pull it out and show us all those verses in the Bible that are an open mandate to wage war on non-Jews and non-Christians until global dominion is achieved.
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Incredulous
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bielski:
I think it is fair to say the following describe the policies of Israel towards the inhabitants of the Gaza strip, and being able to read is not the mark of a genius, at least not yet:
Numbers 33:52
Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:Numbers 33:53
And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.Numbers 33:55
But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell. - 2 years ago
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bielski:
Those verses refer to the war between the Israelites and the Canaanites 3000 years ago. They do not refer to Gaza. The Koran is an open mandate to wage war against all unbelievers..especially the Jews.
You are either intellectually dishonest or a complete idiot. - 2 years ago
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bielski:
bielski,
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)The Qur'an says no such thing. There are certain ways a Muslim must pursue jihad. They can't just go out and kill anyone they want. Just like the Bible, anything can be interpreted by anyone. Radicals will use it to justify their disgusting actions.
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bielski:
I'll take that as a complement coming from you bielski
libertyforall's post really sums it up nicely.
Much of Israel, still not understanding that the inhabitants that need to be driven out are the ones that reside within, has put itself under a terrible burden to attain a perfection that is unattainable...and so, you continuously strive with your neighbors, and anyone for that matter who dares to disagree with you.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
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bielski:
You're not a descendent of Julius Streicher, are you?
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bielski [removed]
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bielski:
that's it...that's all you've got?
yeah, I thought so.
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bielski:
That's all I can be bothered with. Reasoned arguments are futile when dealing with a closed prejudiced mind.
No matter what I bring forward to support Israel in its defence against Islamofascism will be rejected by you because you have already made up your mind and that is not going to change.
Evidence, facts, history, truth....forget it, they just get in the way.''A man who does not alter his opinions is like standing water that breeds reptiles in the mind''...William Blake.
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bielski [removed]
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bielski:
Is that all you can do? Insult people.
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bielski:
Only those who deserve it.
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bielski:
bielski,
Nobody was attacking Israel in this post. If you want to switch the topic to start listing Israeli atrocities then we can do that.
We were only correcting your claim of Islam as a religion of violence yet the Bible is all peace and love.
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libertyforall
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Gee wiz I thought after Obama went around the Middle east saying how sorry we were for past mistakes the guys who want to blow us up were going to go away?
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Birdmanbob4:
It's worse now, because the US looks weak.
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Birdmanbob4:
looks can be deceiving
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no offense, but you can pull the same sort of rhetoric out of the Old Testament.
Generally speaking, you don't see people who claim to be Christians out there acting on those precepts...
but I can't speak for present day Israel.
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bielski [removed]
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Here's a taste of the obvious for the moronic moonbats in denial:
Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror.'"
Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."
Ishaq:326 "If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah's enemies."
Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."
Ishaq:588 "When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves."
Tabari IX:42 "We have been dealt a situation from which there is no escape. You have seen what Muhammad has done. Arabs have submitted to him and we do not have the strength to fight. You know that no herd is safe from him. And no one even dares go outside for fear of being terrorized."
Ishaq:326 "Allah said, 'No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.' Muhammad said, 'I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.'"
Ishaq:327 "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"
Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."
Ishaq:510 "When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his Companions, 'O Allah, Lord of the Devils and what into terror they throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.' He used to say this of every town he raided."
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of Fear] near Khaybar when it was still dark. He said, 'Allahu-Akbar!' [Allah is Greatest] Khaybar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a hostile nation to fight, then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.' Then the inhabitants came out running on their roads. The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were taken as captives."
Bukhari:V9B87N127 "The Prophet said, 'I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.'" - 2 years ago
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Madrid , London ....
They learn from thier actions and repeat them
We are not talking abou truck loads of fertilizer but backpacks of peroxide readly available anywhere for 50$ a gallon
the answers are not on Afganistan but in S Arabia and Pakistan
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ras_menelik:
They're using APAP? or something else? That sure is some scary stuff, it's very volatile, but very easy to make.
I'm not too worried about these 'terrorists' though. They're not exactly the best and brightest on the planet.
The other question in my mind, is why hasn't security been stepped up? On the subway here it's just your typical metro-cops, and the standard police with m4s. Nothing really noticeably different, so why the warning if they're not doing anything about it?
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They're really trying to pump out fear :-)
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Buy more duct tape!
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samthesixth:
profound...and I think you might be right
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and just how do you propose to be safe...which is and was my original question?
What does a warning like this do besides produce fear? Did they give you some guidelines on how to be safe rather than sorry? I don't think so.
And what does fear produce? According to Jammer people have overreacted to one person's opinion, but I don't think Jammer would consider it overreacting if people were falling in line with his way of thinking, but of course Jammer doesn't like to ask questions that don't have pat answers.
Seriously, what exactly do you think you are going to do to bring about your "better SAFE than sorry?"
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Incredulous:
hahahaha your whole comment about me had no reason to exist. You're so self involved it's amusing.
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Incredulous:
au contraire Jammer...however could I remain self involved if I didn't comment on you?
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Incredulous:
Because you buy into your own line of thinking on someone else.
Pretty self involved if you ask me, and you did.
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Incredulous:
self involved is on my resume...
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Incredulous:
Everyone's resume is self involved.
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Yeah the people at the former WORLD TRADE CENTER
felt the same way , people who live in high impact targets meaning ( THE CITY ) wonder ! Its best to be safe then SORRY ! but then if you live in the Booines
then you have nothing to worry about ( I think ) ! - 2 years ago
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There are always reports like this....they just are not made for public to view because they'll just freak out. I mean look at how people overreact over a single person's opinion. They can't handle this kind of information.
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This is fabricated hyper news created by a plot of sick individuals. The only mass terror in transportation that is happening since after Year 2000, it is the noise invasion and trespassing they all make. Wake up people! They are the acoustic Al Kaeda, They are the ones using their passive aggressive acoustic tactics against our neighborhoods and inhabitants.
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Is that the train from final fantasy 7? Goddamn AVALANCHE is at it again?!
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This cannot happen in Obama's America.
For it's impossible....
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Let me guess, another semi-retarded group of highly dangerous terrorists who were planning mass murders? Obama's ratings are tanking and he needed a win. Just like Bush did with those "terrorists" in Florida.
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Nobody buys this shit anymore. Time to create a new enemy.
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Well, I read in the first report that they found were Zazi had a web search or something on his computer. On how to build a bomb. And a report that he went to a training camp in Afghanistan . And was trained on how to build a bomb. If so why did he need the web for. I think that’s propaganda from our corrupt F.B.I. to add to the fear. Also I believe that the government is ready to commit a terrorist act and blame it on terrorist.
To further there cause. YOU Watch. Control the mass public through fear. Remember people you are only a number to any government and the bigger our numbers the harder it is to control. But Hitler did it with fear.
And so can who ever is polling the string with this. Sound fishy - 2 years ago
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Woot! Just got off a 14-hour train ride home and I guess I should be quivering in my boots out of thankfulness, huh?
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Why is it the alerts are raised AFTER the suspects are in custody. I would have thought it would work better the other way round, but thats just me and my logicalness
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yeah i heard about staying away from sporting events and hotels too...guess i should just sit in my basement with all the doors locked...
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jeffissleeping:
That's the idea pal. It's called terrorism.
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How do you decide just by looking at someone on a mass transit system if they intend to harm or not? is it a person going to college w/ a backpack or a terrorist wanting to blow the entire train to bits? how do you know? how can you tell?
same goes for a person that is about to rob you,....do you know they will before they do it or not? - 2 years ago
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nobody wants to die on the train, or in the train station, but I remember when people used to look at each other and not be afraid of either being robbed or blown up. There is something terribly wrong with the way we are living, and I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Who profits from you being afraid of a person whose origins appear to be Middle Eastern? Follow the money.
What are people going to do, not take the train because some guy looks like he might have a bomb in his backpack? Most people can't afford to live their lives that way. Should we segregate all people of Middle Eastern descent, perhaps force them to ride in a car at the back of the train, just in case? Seems like that's what they used to do to blacks riding the bus in the South. We could go back and look at the list of things about black people that made Southerners afraid of them, and a lot of that ignorance is still alive and well today, but it resides in the subconscious for the most part.
Are we ever going to look at why we are in Afghanistan?
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I remember when people use to look at blacks on the train in fear of getting rob , now thats not ah issue
anymore compared to being blowup in the subway , I am sorry to say the next Afghanstan looking persons with ah packpack could be on there last ride & wanna take YOU with them ! So please be careful i don't wanna die in the train or ah train station ! Now that is SO NOT COOL ! - 2 years ago
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this is so typical of our government. people start asking what the hell are we doing in Afghanistan, and instead of giving us an honest answer, the CIA/FBI starts finding all these supposed plots to blow things up.
"Zazi and two other defendants have not been charged with any terrorism counts"
It is so deceptive on the part of our government. Orchestrate something for the public to focus on, something that will generate fear, but don't give the people any straight answers. Gee, where have we seen this before?
We start pouring money into the war in Afghanistan and all of a sudden Afghans pop up who are plotting to blow up the subway. I want some straight answers. I want to know why we are spending all of our tax dollars and the lives of our children in this war. I am not surprised that these people are blowing us up in their country...we ARE the occupation force over there, but the why behind our occupation of that country remains clouded.
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Incredulous:
There have been reports that the sky is falling. No charges have yet been filed until the investigation reveals more information. But lets double our troops in Afghanistan just to be safe and spend outrageous sums on the military industrial complex.
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Be alert but not afraid.
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Ride a bike!
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