Does Organic Also Mean Sustainable or Just Non-Toxic?
source: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/does-organic-also-mean-sustainable-or-just-non-toxic...
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"Did you know quite a few, if not most, of organic food companies these days are actually owned by major labels that you stopped supporting years ago? Is that really a problem, since it means that organic is available just about everywhere these days, or does it mean the movement has lost part of its soul?"
Michael Potter, owner of Eden Foods Inc, in a recent interview with Reading Eagle, said that he gets offers several times a week these days to sell his company. While he has stuck to his guns thus far, many people mock him for not cashing out in what is now a multi-billion dollar industry.
The big guys are smart these days- even though they buy an organic company, no where on the new product will you see the corporate logo or label. If they were proud of their organic branch, wouldn't they want to market themselves as a feel good company?
Or do they not want consumers to know that their favorite brand sold out (sometimes years ago). Dean Foods, Kraft, Conagra, General Mills and even Coca-Cola are now on the organic bandwagon. When corporations are asked about their organic label and how they can justify using ingredients from halfway around the world, or using a larger portion of non-organic ingredients in the mix, oftentimes the answer is "No Comment."
So why doesn't Potter sell off his business and retire in Fiji or paradise? According to him, organic is more than just not using pesticides. Organic to him is about sustainability, keeping things "small, alternative and individualistic" and keeping a tight reign on product quality. Selling the company would mean allowing customers to think they are still getting the same quality product with no control of what happens. If large corporations put boxes of their organic foods on every shelf in every grocery store, is that still sustainable?
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"But, if a consumer objects to the social and ethical practices of said larger label, then they might want to know when they are still supporting them, despite the lack of labeling."
Read the label and know the company behind it.
Below a list of big companies that jumped into the organic wagon, which does not necessarily mean their products are bad.
When you purchase a product you are supporting these companies and sometimes ethics are challenged.
You can make a difference to the environment by being conscious of your choices.
Quoting from http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=154630 :
"For Potter, selling to a big corporation or joining forces with venture capitalists would mean selling out the very essence of organic: small, alternative and individualistic."
The essence of an Organic thinking is right there.
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http://current.com/groups/organicgreen/
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angliss
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Organic doesn't mean either non-toxic or sustainable.
It's only non-toxic if the water is clean (it isn't) and if the soil and natural fertilizers are free of toxins (they aren't). Less toxic, perhaps, but not "non-toxic."
Sustainable means that the crops aren't depleting the soil in a way that can't be reversed with crop rotation or natural fertilizers. You can farm unsustainably just as easily with an organic farm as you can with a factory farm.
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angliss
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Tyrannous
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Just non toxic.
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Tyrannous
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lookatmypix
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Tyrannous:
And how did you get to this conclusion?
I am interested to know, thanks. - 2 years ago
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lookatmypix
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masterzip
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i see nothing wrong w/ one bad company owning a few good farms....look at Disney, they own ABC, a cruise line, an Island, multiple theme parks, multiple movie labels, ....this is the very definition of a "conglomerate corporation" ....Berkshire Hathaway can be included by this definition, and you don't see their name/log on everything(including See's chocolates)....the subject here is can a chemical grower own a organic farm and keep the 2 products separate??? I believe they could,..we live in America where capitalism rules! so let people make money where they can.
sue them if they violate organic rules... - 2 years ago
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masterzip
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lookatmypix
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masterzip:
Like if people would have the money to sue these huge corporations, actually among the top ten in the world food wise.
And how long would it take to win against their big shot lawyers?
Some of these companies are extremely unethical,
we as the people implicitly support them by buying their products.
Child slavery, environmental destruction like deforestation, illegal extraction of groundwater, pollution of our water and soil, fraudulent labeling, promoting unhealthy food, genetically modified food and untested nano-technology are only examples of pure greed and cruelty, that is not capitalism. - 2 years ago
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lookatmypix
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samthesixth
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masterzip:
Masterzip,
The problem with the large food companies owning the small organic producers comes about through their use of lobbyists to redefine the terms and labels used by the organic movement.
I can remember when organic meant no human waste, no gmo, no non-organic ingredients, etc.
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samthesixth
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idealist
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its better in the long run thats for sure!
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idealist
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rickm8
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Green is the new black, and they can make green off of it. Smart business practices FTW
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lookatmypix
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From :http://vegetarianorganiclife.com/53.htm
I liked her article."Thinking that the solution is to selectively purchase products from a company that has proven to be deceitful is a disjointed notion. The practice of misbranding, misleading and mislabeling can stop only if consumers stop buying products from corrupt companies."
At the link a few tips on what to avoid.
I will definitely post future sources that will provide more information.
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lookatmypix
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samthesixth
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Interesting connections lookatmypix. I bought most of the companies products prior to their purchase by the big food players.
Organic has lost so much of its meaning.
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samthesixth
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ampersand
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I had to give up Odwalla Bars after Coca-Cola turned them into massively sweetened candy bar confections. Stopped eating Ben & Jerry's and Haagen Daaz after the corporate recipes substituted high fructose corn syrup for sugar.
In a left-handed way I guess, the corporate world is helping a few of us along to better nutrition. Sorry about the greater mass of folks out there, though. - 2 years ago
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ampersand
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lookatmypix
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Here are some examples of organic labels owned by large food corporations:
(http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=154630)Pepsi: Naked juices
Kraft: Back to Nature; Boca Foods
Nestle: Tribe Mediterranean Foods
Dean Foods: White Wave/Silk; Alta Dena; Horizon; Organic Cow of Vermont
General Mills: Muir Glen; Cascadian Farm
Conagra: Lightlife; Alexia Foods
Kellogg: Kashi; Morningstar Farms; Gardenburger; Bear Naked
Coca-Cola: Odwalla juices
M&M/Mars: Seeds of Change
Hershey Foods: Dagoba chocolate
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