Take the Shot, or Lose Your Job!
source: http://www.infowars.com/daycare-worker-told-shell-be-fired-for-refusing-mandatory-flu-shot/
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- S3th
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“Clare said “I don’t get flu shots” and was told “well then you’ll be fired.”
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S3th
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For the casual observer,
You'll notice the lack of creativity from one thread
http://current.com/items/90996913_nurse-fired-for-refusing-h1n1-vaccine.htm
to the next dipslayed by Unimatrix0.
I'll simply cut and past my response for Uni here, in an attempt to save the same amount of time as Uni did.
Unimatrix0,
This I find the most disturbing."It is good they are requiring day care workers and health professionals to get vaccinated.
Vaccines protect everybody.
Why should some selfish, paranoid, ignoramus be allowed to endanger me or my kids?
Science works, find something real to worry about."
You obviously haven't researched what exactly is used in vaccines. Your naive trust of those who stand to make billions off of your ignorance, is uncanny.
Your bold declaration of blind faith for ALL VACCINES, tells volumes about your discretion.
Your character assassignation of a woman who doesn't want untested, fast-tracked vaccines injected into her body is deplorable.
Science works...That is what everyone should be worried about.
Science worked when it dropped horror on Japan....TWICE.
Science works every time a bullet is fired out of a gun. Everytime a mind goes insane from the pain of being subjected to chemical, biological, etc. weapons created thanks to SCIENCE.
LOBOTOMIES were performed in the name of SCIENCE.
The logical use SCIENCE, much like the fanatic uses GOD to explain the world. They both think they are right, while both being equaly deluded.
If a scientist tells you something is good for you, you should just trust him? Shouldn't he have to prove something is absolutely true, before he tries to make billions of dollars sticking it up your ass?
You see, the problem is, there is SCIENTIFIC evidence that many properties used to make these vaccines have multiple negative side-effects. NURSES, DOCTORS, and vaccine makers know about the side-effects, and frankly do not wish to take the risks by letting themselves be injected with the crap.
If doctors, nurses, and vaccine makers don't want the stuff in their bodies, you can be certain, we shouldn't either!
And who are you to tell healthcare workers what they should inject into their bodies? Are you GOD? Or are you a SCIENTIST?
Just wondering?
- 2 years ago
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S3th
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hollyMiamiFla
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For those of you who still cannot grasp the reasoning behind a person refusing or not receiving the H1N1 vaccine, you had better do your research instead of hastily spouting off about what you think is right. I have read the same information in a number of articles and some other disturbing info. Here are some links to enlighten you and anyone interested. P.S. For those of you that are parents I leave you with this one thought, are you really willing to have this vaccine administered to you or your child with declarations of efficacy or declarations of safety with words and phrases like MAYBE, PROBABLY, LIMITED TESTING RESULTS SHOW, POSSIBLY, WE DON'T KNOW....................................................
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539880,00.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18015582/H1N1-Vaccine-Let...
http://kevinpmiller.blogspot.com/2009/08/leaked-letter-reveals-swine-flu-25.html
http://www.douglassreport.com/dailydose/dd200909/dd20090904a.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrMY9vsiCc
*this last video is just food for thought, a little out there and dramatic but it kind of sparked a startled response in me so I wanted to include it. - 2 years ago
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hollyMiamiFla
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lrlmcc
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When someone works in Health care/Child care industries the person is working with a group of people that are or will become immunocompromised. The flu and cold viruses mutate. The flu shot is just a best guess at this point of which strain of the virus will be the most virulent. You can't "build" up your immune system for all flu or cold viruses. The virus MUTATES. If you don't want the shot, don't work in those fields.
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lrlmcc
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S3th
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lrlmcc:
Immunocompromised?
You making up new words as you go along?
It's all very nice and easy for you to just tell those who have spent tens, to hundreds of thousands of dollars on advancing their careers, that they should just throw it all away cause they don't want to be injected with some crap that could kill, or inflict serious harm on them!
How easy that must be for you...
- 2 years ago
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S3th
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Thargor19
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i am not so much concerned with a possible injected vaccine that can possibly help build up my immune system to fight off another strain of flu, as i am with what contents make up that vaccine. it has been shown that heavy metals and other nasty substances are in a majority if not all of our vaccines and to that i say no thank you.
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Thargor19
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maasanova
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The swine FRAUD vaccine
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maasanova
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wizzle
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unimatrix0 - Your willingness to turn over your rights to government/big business worries me. But when they are forcing you to do something you don't believe in, were still be there to back you up bro. By the way, name calling, really?
- 2 years ago
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wizzle
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unimatrix0
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It is good they are requiring day care workers and health professionals to get vaccinated.
Vaccines protect everybody.
Why should some selfish paranoid ignoramus be allowed to endanger me or my kids?
Science works, find something real to worry about.
- 2 years ago
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unimatrix0
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Thargor19
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unimatrix0:
blind faith is always ignorant. we just have to wait and see.
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Thargor19
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unimatrix0:
Hi unimatrix0, this "science" you speak of must have been broken in the 70's because I remember the vaccine killed more people than the swine flu!
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unimatrix0:
People are just completely uneducated and misguided by the media when it comes to health issues.
Just look at the comments on sites like this and you see people unaware that
-the 70s "swine flu" is a completely different strain from the current "swine flu"
-neither of them really IS swine flu
-the 70s incident was an isolated outbreak while the current strain has already reached pandemic status
-a lot of the alleged "side effects" of the vaccine back then (which wasn't really good) barely were worse than if it had been a placebo
-a vaccine doesn't weaken an immune system (seriously, how can you get such basic facts wrong)It's very worrying since experience from countries where "swine flu" hit within the flu season showed huge increases in ICU admissions and deaths among toddlers and the elderly. I think it Australia the mean age of death from flu was lowered by 15 years this season.
People are selfish, uneducated and paranoid. The weaker members of society have to pay the price. - 2 years ago
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unimatrix0:
xwolp,
"-the 70s incident was an isolated outbreak while the current strain has already reached pandemic status"
PANDEMIC? Because you say so, or because of the hype from the CDC/WHO?
As for the rest. Seek help.
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S3th
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S3th
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Holly,
The Department of Defense has already pushed through mandatory H1N1vaccinations for ALL military members.
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S3th
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hunzedog
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i agree, dont include me
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hunzedog
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hollyMiamiFla
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Paranoia is why this is happening and no one should be fired for it! I have been a nurse for 20 yrs. I have not been approached with this because my employer and most other employers [of nurses] know that it wouldn't fly. As nurses we are offered the Hepatitis B shot upon employment but can refuse it. I realize that H1N1 is very different from Hep B but you can't force someone to take it. You will have a very large number of the nursing workforce quitting if this is made mandatory. I work in a very busy urgent care we have been treating people with H1N1 ever since the outbreak earlier this year. People, an average of 36,000 people die every year from influenza or the flu. Approximately 4,100 have died around the world from H1N1. Swine flu has been around since the early 1900's. There have been outbreaks off and on since then. Perhaps the strains may vary, however the treatment is the SAME for the common yearly flu and swine flu. Even if you take the H1N1 vaccine there is no guarantee it will work. I have NEVER taken a flu shot. I have had flu-like symptoms maybe a handful of times in the 20 years I've been a nurse. I've been taking care of people with influenza and H1N1 ALL YEAR LONG AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT!! It's preposterous to even consider forcing someone to take this. If the government or anyone else starts mandating this then we are going to have a war on our hands. This vaccine did not even go through the proper clinical trials. It was made available in warp speed time! What does that tell you?? That the CDC is in bed with pharmaceutical companies? Or the FDA? or the government? I don't know but there are a lot of people in the medical community AND the military that are very against this because of side effects and EVEN DEATHS! You can die from anything you put into your body, but I'll be damned if I am going to willingly put something into my body that hasn't been properly studied or furthermore that is unecessary. We treat the friggin flu and swine flu by treating symptoms anyway. THERE IS NO CURE! VIRUSES HAVE TO RUN THEIR COURSE!
Stop the madness already! We are going to hell in a hand basket it seems. - 2 years ago
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unimatrix0
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hollyMiamiFla:
I find it hard to believe you are a nurse or work in the nursing profession with your uninformed, anti-science, anti-medicine attitude.
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unimatrix0
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hollyMiamiFla:
Uni,
Anti-Science?
Anti-Christ?
Do I have to cite the religion/science metaphor again?
Holly, clearly has viewed the OTHER science about properities in the Vaccine, and the SCIENCE...Anti-science, I suppose you'd call it, tells her to NOT let anyone inject it into her body.
And, as an individual, with inalienable, constitutional, and RELIGIOUS RIGHTS, she should be able to make that choice!
Just exactly WHO are you to tell her what she should believe, or attack her authenticity.
ANTI-MEDICINE? Is that one of ANTI-SCIENCES minions?
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S3th
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okworld
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First a vaccine, then the chip...
"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper." T.S. Eliot - 2 years ago
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okworld
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okworld:
:) one of my favorite poems and if i am not mistaken quoted by stephen king in the stand.
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Thargor19
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zeevik03
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Viral Pandemic H5N1 flu threat: Baxter contaminates European labs by error
Influenza-Virus: Credit: NIAIDIt could be a Hollywood Worst Case Thriller, but it is real: According to the scientific network PROMED, Baxter International Inc. in Austria "unintentionally contaminated samples with the bird flu virus that were used in laboratories in 3 neighboring countries, raising concern about the potential spread of the deadly disease". As PROMED reports, the contamination has been discovered when ferrets at a laboratory in the Czech Republic died after being inoculated with vaccine made from the samples early this month. "The material came from Deerfield, Illinois-based Baxter, which reported the incident to the Austrian Ministry of Health, Sigrid Rosenberger, a ministry spokeswoman, said today in a telephone interview", the network-alert-system is quoting. "This was infected with a bird flu virus," Rosenberger said. "There were some people from the company who handled it." There are severe signs that the long expected pandemic avian influenza could be on its way to conquer the world - even without Baxter's error driven help. by Vlad Dan Georgescu and Marita Vollborn
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idealist
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freakin crazy...............
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S3th
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ampersand,
On one hand we have a threat to public health, and the on the other, a startling invasion of personal rights.
What threat to public health? The threat is hyped. It's an attack on more than personal rights.....The attack is on peoples ability to feed their families!
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S3th
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S3th:
S3th,
The risk may well be over-hyped. I for one will trust in my own immune system unless I see a greater actual threat to my situation or circumstances.
Is the threat to livelihood you mentioned the cost of the vaccine, or the threat to employment if one refuses to be inoculated?
As bad as times are I think one should always be ready to disagree with the terms of employment, especially, if they change arbitrarily over time.
The only way to insure your personal freedom is to insist on it, and to have created the means to sustain it. - 2 years ago
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S3th:
ampersand, I agree with "The only way to insure your personal freedom is to insist on it, and to have created the means to sustain it." But unfortunately we are near the point of no return. Public has been subjected to standard employment protocol - to drug tests, driving record checks, background checks, and credit checks. And before someone comments, these are for jobs with exposure to handling cash, or working with children, or driving related... It is simply standard for most employment opportunities. I personally have nothing to hide and have no issues to be concerned about but it is a matter of personal freedom and invasion of privacy. It is simply wrong.
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S3th:
Wow. You totally nailed it MTF!
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S3th
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ampersand
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SeaJade's implication is correct. It's a galling choice. On one hand we have a threat to public health, and the on the other, a startling invasion of personal rights. Children are the most vulnerable targets of this amalgamated virus, officially now a pandemic. If I had young children, or worked in the public health services, I don't see an alternative. Let's hope the composition of the vaccine is effective against a constantly mutating virus and the vaccine itself, doesn't have any unforeseen health effects.
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ampersand:
umm you know the virus is very mild,right?and that it only has a 1% chance of actually causing death?I think i'd take my chances in whatever situation i was in and steer clear of a fast tracked vaccine...
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ampersand:
Iamfree,
As far as myself, I agree with you. I don't feel I am at risk (or at least, critical risk) from this virus. Until I see other evidence otherwise, or I am in a situation of greater risk, I will trust in my own immune system. - 2 years ago
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I read an article the other day that in at least several states it is mandatory to take the shot if you work in health services (I don't know where I read that, too many stories ago) .... and, yes, the only way to say no is to leave your job....
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SeaJade
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caverat101
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the reason we have such a low immunity to not only flu but all sicknesses is because we take so many vaccines and medicines and shit. It blows my mind how retarded people can be
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caverat101
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caverat101:
word!
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caverat101:
actually the reason why we live so long, suffer much less childhood disease and death, and enjoy a higher quality of life is because vaccines and shit
It blows my mind how retarded people can be
science works, for example, notice the computer in front of you.
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unimatrix0
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caverat101:
Uni,
Your science works mantra is getting a bit old.
Native tribes lived excellent lives. Lives that didn't help destroy eco-systems, and eliminate entire species!
Science is responsible for some of the greatest horrors this world has every seen!
Science, the new religion. Go fanatics!
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S3th
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judychrz
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I wonder if it will become mandatory if you want to travel out of the country, or even within the country!
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judychrz
