Community | September 22, 2009 | 39 comments

State OKs petition drive for pot legalization

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(09-22) 15:41 PDT San Francisco -- Two prominent East Bay marijuana advocates got clearance from the state today to try to put a pot-legalization initiative on the November 2010 California ballot.

Richard Lee, executive director of the medical marijuana dispensary known as Oaksterdam, and Jeff Jones, former director of the Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Cooperative, are the sponsors of a measure that would allow anyone over 21 to possess or grow marijuana for personal use. It would allow each local government to decide whether to tax and regulate marijuana sales.
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39 comments // State OKs petition drive for pot legalization

  • blaino
  • fun_size
  • TrilLogic
  • cabinettags
  • sk8r408
  • jswiz
  • boardupking
  • Michael_Lamere
  • PirateSauce
  • delas78
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      delas78  
    • If this passes on a monday, the DEA will be kicking in doors by tuesday.

      It's already pseudo-legal. But the federal government could care less what California law says.

      California would need to take this to the Supreme court to keep the feds out. And even then, who knows.

      Sorry for being such a buzz kill....

    • 2 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • delas78:

      No buzz kill delas; we know that. So do the folks in California.

      But this is exactly the way legalization is going to come about. The Fed isn't going to back off on their own - even with Obama at the helm. But in spite of how they look at it, the fact is the fed isn't in loco parentis with the states. They keep trying to be, but they've not made it. And they won't if your generation keeps their eyes open.

      But that doesn't matter. This is how the law will be changed. CA first. Eventually they'll take on the Fed, but by the time that happens they won't be alone. Oregon, Mass and who knows how many others will have joined the bandwagon. Hopefully by then, we'll have enough clout to challenge and win.

      This will be the same process as medical marijuana has been. CA first, and to hell with federal law. Then everyone notices the world didn't end in CA. This opens the door for liberal states to follow suit. By the time the Federal court gets involved they'll be facing a group. In the end, they'll lose.

      Is this dumb or what? It's like the neighborhood bully trying to enforce the idea that the moon is made of cheese. Everybody knows it's not made of cheese and laugh at the sucker behind his back. But nobody can whoop his ass, so you keep hearing about cheese. How do you deal with that? You gang up on him.

      Just bear in mind this is only the preliminary of the opening rounds. Once the majority of states get onboard and we FORCE the Fed. to back off, then we get to start again. It's not going to be the Fed finally saying "okay, do what you want" and suddenly everyone is free.

      This is only the first battle in the war. Winning here will only accomplish the Fed turning over responsibility to the states - which is where it should have been all along. Then we get to start again in our individual states.

      This thing isn't one size fits all. Take alcohol prohibition, for example. Now I'm in KY. Alcohol is not legal all over KY. We have dry counties. You can't buy booze. Assuming we can get the wicked weed legalized state wide, then we'll STILL have local govt's that say no.

      Nope. This is just the first battle in a long war.

    • 2 years ago
  • delas78
  • ProjectBat
  • Khidrock
  • troyl2
  • thecoyote23
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      thecoyote23  
    • But what about all the jobs that are created by the drug war? What are all those narcs and DEA agents going to do? I guess they will have to do something that actually protects people instead of hurting them and throwing them in prison, thus costing the government more money it doesn't have.

    • 2 years ago
  • Khidrock
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • thecoyote23:

      Not to worry coyote. Unless we legalize all drugs, which is unlikely, then the narc's will still have a job. Somebody has to protect America by locking up idiots and entrepreneurs.

      As for the DEA, they're just going to have to be retrained. In view of their job experience I'd suggest the former Blackwater. It will be a bit harder on them though. Those opponents shoot back.

    • 2 years ago
  • Weepowopo
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      Weepowopo  
    • I know how to pay for health care.

      Use the billions of dollars that used each year to fight the drug war.

      Drug War = Bull Shit.

    • 2 years ago
  • greenapple
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      greenapple  
    • Not to mention an all NATURLE and RENEWABLE alternative to FUEL ..... CLOTHING.....PAPER....sounds like it would also solve our energy crisis...

    • 2 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • I disagee Master... This thing is going to pass. I'll point out I'm not from CA. The people already support it and I'd bet my bottom dollar a number of politicans do too. Even if all they're looking at is the dollars. Which is smart.

      Some state needed to lead the way. CA is the obvious choice. They're always the first to do everything!! :-)

      GO CALIFORNIA !!!

    • 2 years ago
  • masterzip
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      masterzip  
    • cabinettags:

      I will be the first to admit I am wrong when I see the total vote count,....Hell !!!!,..I will even vote for it to pass. It is not my position to be against it,..i just have this feeling it will never gain traction as advertising demonizing drug use will take over and fear will set in for a number of voters.

    • 2 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • cabinettags:

      I hear ya, Master. But that advertising stuff the Federal govt. does, has been done to death. Nobody believes that shit anymore - and with good reason. Every time I see one of those it makes me smile. There goes our Fed. pissing money away again. May be our young prez. doesn't have quite the grasp he thinks he does.

    • 2 years ago
  • greenapple
  • greenapple
  • DreSandoval
  • CalgarC
  • hunzedog
  • hunzedog
  • Thargor19
  • FishaHouse777
  • masterzip
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      masterzip  
    • it will never pass,....regardless how progressive you think California is,...they are just not that progressive anymore,...remember they voted down gay marriage,...2 times!!

    • 2 years ago
  • netstorm2k8
  • delas78
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      delas78  
    • masterzip:

      I think that this petition lacks the extreme opposition that the gay marriage supporters had to deal with (ultra-conservatives)

      But the pro-legalization movement will show up by the bus load to sign this.

    • 2 years ago
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