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IRS Literally Taxed Joe Louis To Death

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Joe Louis donated $1 Million to a government charity only to be taxed the full amount and ran into IRS debt slavery for nearly his entire life. His IRS debt ran up as high as $1 Million to a point where each year’s interest accumulated to over $100,000. The IRS literally taxed Joe Louis to death.

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49 comments // IRS Literally Taxed Joe Louis To Death

  • Daniel_Droege
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      Daniel_Droege  
    • all of you small minded people set in your ways of socialised babysitting make me want to vomit. I know you will probably make fun of my mispelled and ill formed gramer, but that doesn't make you look right. You insist w/o welfare, individual income tax, and the fed; that the sky would fall and we would all sink into bitter anarchy. I would suggest you go back and read quotes from the founding fathers when producing and debating the constitution. If you want to reduce that to a slavery argument, you are wrong there too for reasons I don't have time to go into. It worked for a reason. Now it still works, just not nearly as effeciently

    • 1 year ago
  • rmann0581
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      rmann0581  
    • Tax his tractor, tax his mule; tell him, taxing is the rule.
      Tax his oil, tax his gas, tax his notes, tax his cash
      Tax him good and let him know, that after taxes, he has no dough.
      If he hollers, tax him more; tax him till he's good and sore.
      Tax his coffin, tax his grave, tax his sod in which he's laid.
      Put these words upon his tomb, "Taxes drove him to his doom."
      Once he's gone, we won't relax. We'll still collect inheritance tax.

    • 2 years ago
  • bill1think2012
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      bill1think2012  
    • you have to watch the documentry posted by "SHANKLINMIKE" YOU TUBE FEED WATCH IT ALL AND IF YOU WANT TO START A GROUP. FOLLOW ME AND GET INVOLED.

    • 2 years ago
  • rmann0581
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      rmann0581  
    • If the IRS didn't exist, people could donate more money to charities that could do a better job of helping people than the government.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • Daniel_Droege
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      Daniel_Droege  
    • bombastinator:

      no the gasoline tax (about 40 cents) that we all pitch in for fuel covers the roads. the military is covered by coperate income tax. the only income tax that was constitutional as deemed by the founding fathers until 1914. That is the tax this article refers to.

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • Daniel_Droege:

      incorrect. The gas tax does go towards roads, but substantial amounts of federal dollars go towards highways as well. It's one of the primary ways that the federal government gets states to toe the line on things like drinking ages. set your drinking age to 21 or lose federal highway dollars. Wisconsin for instance wanted the drinking age enough to forgo the funds for several years. They finally relented though because it was just too much money.

      What are you doing going over and commenting on 8 month old posts btw?

    • 1 year ago
  • rmann0581
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      rmann0581  
    • I would like to thank the IRS for one thing. It motivated me to support Ron Paul during the election. One evening when I was in college, I was talking to my parents on the phone. I found out that they were having problems with the IRS. I won't go into the details, but it had to do with somebody they hired to take care of my head-injured uncle. They didn't think they were at fault, but they figured, oh well, you can't fight the government. A few weeks later, I happened to hear about Ron Paul. I googled Ron Paul and I found a wikipedia page with his positions. As soon as I got to his position about wanting to abolish the IRS, my hart probably started beating a mile a minute because of excitement. Then I read that he voted against the Iraq war from the beginning and I was sold. It turned out that my education wouldn't stop there. For the rest of that year, I learned about things such as the military industrial complex, fiat money, ETC.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • mcjk
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      mcjk  
    • "The truth is that he chose to spend or give away his money without a thought for the future. Louis himself had no delusions about that. When a friend suggested that if he had fought in the 1960s, he would have earned far more money, Louis said cheerfully, "Wouldn't make no difference. I'd still end up broke." "

      "After considerable frustration, the IRS agreed in the early 1960s to limit its collections to an amount based on Louis's current estimated income. It did not even cover the interest on his debt."

      - http://bit.ly/jKtgp (Mead, Chris. Triumphs and Trials. Sports Illustrated. September 25, 1985.)

      This historical article is deceitful.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • bombastinator
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • shanklinmike:

      e⋅vil
        /ˈivəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ee-vuhl] Show IPA
      Use evil in a Sentence
      See web results for evil
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      –adjective
      1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
      2. harmful; injurious: evil laws.
      3. characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.
      4. due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.
      5. marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition.

      No, I used the correct word.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • shanklinmike:

      The irs is nothing but a collection agency. They don't make law, and they don't decide what is due. They usually make a pretty good effort to collect in the most decent way possible.

      Calling the IRS evil is like calling a toilet greedy.

    • 2 years ago
  • royulery
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      royulery  
    • the full story of joe and max is beautiful and sad and it should be told on that radio program. the show should mention that max was treated as poorly by .

    • 2 years ago
  • Sam_the_Wizer
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
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    • Sam_the_Wizer:

      "Grunter always reponds to discussion forum messages with a single word or a short phrase, and he NEVER edits quoted material. Profundus Maximus, Philosopher, Tireless Rebutter, and other verbose Warriors find Grunter a particularly exasperating opponent because he will answer their lengthy pontifications with a simple "Yeah!". "Get a life.", "Whatever", "I agree." "Wrong.", etc. While Grunter is not a strong Warrior, he is very elusive and difficult to engage in direct battle, and only by his extended silence is there any indication that he has been vanquished."

    • 2 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • This is not news, it is history. It might be interesting history, but it is still history.

      Posting it as news is wrong, and disrespectful to the community.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • unimatrix0:

      unimatrix, I would figure someone as intelligent (though as disagreeable) as you would have figured out by now that all this character posts is nonsensical articles that have no business being read by anybody, anywhere, ever.

      Ron Paul supporters are like watching cats swat at a laser pointer on the wall.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • unimatrix0:

      But what is news is bashing ALL Conservatives and Republicans because of two signs found in a crowd of thousands (or hundreds...whatever your number is). Or Bashing religion or bashing any number of things you love to bash....

      you and Jan dictating what News is, is better done by not posting in what you think isn't news.

      That's how the community works and disrespecting that is disrespecting the community.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • unimatrix0:

      I'm not voicing my opinion on what is and is not news worthy, but this fool does nothing but post Ron Paul spam all day every day. I'm doing my best to tune it out, it's just funny to me.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • Ares
  • GavinTheMother
  • bombastinator
  • privateibber
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • privateibber:

      You may not have noticed but this thing is listed in "news" happend 30 years ago involving laws and organization policies that have been inactive for even longer than that. Plus the primary premise is horsepucky. How much more not newsworthy can something be?

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • Yeah because world war II era tax systems have so much bearing on modern life. What? Are you hoping no one remembers how long ago this crap happened? The modernIRS is nothing like the organization that perpetrated this and in any case he wouldn't have had a problem if he hadn't been screwed over by incompetent financial planners. This is a problem for a lot of media personalities.

      All we have here is yet another moronic little slide show so far away from a news article that it needs to be hidden away from the site staff by a click through.

      You want an actual article on the subject instead of a self serving woe is us propaganda piece try here.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Louis

      "..These payments – along with an eventual agreement in the early 1960s by the IRS to limit its collections to an amount based on Louis's current income[68] – allowed Louis to live comfortably toward the end of his life.[83].."

      What? Oh? missed that bit did you..
      This issue was over with in the 60's! largely untrue, out of date, self serving, mistagged crap.

      Also if you note here http://current.com/items/91007909_fbi-census-worker-hanged-with-fed-on-chest.htm
      it seems your self serving BS is starting to get innocent people killed Mike. When you broadcast stuff like this that only the brutishly ignorant are dumb enough to believe it is the brutish and ignorant who believe them.

    • 2 years ago
  • lionessgrrl
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      lionessgrrl  
    • bombastinator:

      holy crap! did you just blame mike for that census guy's murdrer because he loves ron paul???? that's nuts. i haven't read the "fed" article yet, and if it says somewhere in it that the murder watched one too many ron paul articles posted on current, i will come back and appologize profusely. but if not ---OMG! thats just wrong!

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • bombastinator:

      I just lost all respect for you bomb.....

      how low, how low.....

      You can keep hiding honesty and truth from the people, you can try to censor me and have our operations shut down, but we will never give up fighting for what is right. You are wrong on so many levels. The last part of your comment is not only wrong, it is sickening...I lose personal value responding to such childish remarks.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • bombastinator:

      Not specifically, but in as much as he assists in creating the fostering environment, sure. If we compare this to say a Mississippi burning style hate crime, the peacefreedomprospertiy posts would be the KKK leader in another state railing against black voting registration and predicting things like "a coming war", which I believe was one recent article subject.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • bombastinator:

      >"You can keep hiding honesty and truth from the people"<
      How would it be possible for me to even do that? All I do is call you out when you attempt to masticate the truth.

      >"..you can try to censor me and have our operations shut down,.."<
      Who is "our" by the way? I thought you were supposed to be just a single poster like everyone else.
      I do occasionally accuse you of unethical and sleazy behavior when I see it. I do that a lot here to a lot of people. I have no capacity at all to shut you down. If you are having those kinds of problems it is because I am right about your behavior and people that do have that kind of ability see it too. I do nothing but point out they exist, as I have done here.

      >"The last part of your comment is not only wrong, it is sickening...I lose personal value responding to such childish remarks."<
      Yet you do so. sickening yes, I wholly agree. Wrong? Not so much. You choose in many of your little utube slide shows a very specific propaganda style designed to persuade on an emotional level. You demand action, and repress discussion. You are not in any way the only one doing this or even a major offender, but if the entirety of the KKK and Jim Crow system was at fault when someone got lynched, or the right to life movement is at fault when a planned parenthood doctor gets murdered, then yeah. It's your problem.

      P.S. it seems this thing came in two parts because the shanklinmike post came in while I was replying to the first post. The ways of internet forums and all that.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • Here is a good illustration of just why we have to look back in history and see just how Good government with corrupt operators have abused the good will and humility of the common American people to instill; the fear into the people in order to enrichen their own lives. America is not what that Statue of Liberty calls out to the world. America is a dream locked up in a dark cavity of the earth waiting for the people to free it. But from appearances that time will never come. We are heading for a Logans Run, Armageddon without any religious co-notation. I was only a kid back when Joe Louis and Max Schmeiiing MAx Baer locked horns. Living out in the country the weekly boxing matches was an excuse for a social gathering to listen to Joe Louis The Brown Bomber knock out Max Baer or pound on Two Ton Tony Gallento, while the adults gulped their hard cider and we kids had our home made ice cream. Those were the days.The Radio was the best medium for communications when there was only one commercial sponsor for each radio sitcom and not ten or twenty 30 second monotonous ads to pay for the exorbitant salaries of today. And after this Joe went on to serve in the Army, I think in special services.

    • 2 years ago
  • Jeni_Shalloe
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      Jeni_Shalloe  
    • I've been carrying an ABOLISH THE IRS sign for almost 2 years :) along with ENDTHEFED, and many more. Funny how folk took so long to agree.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • Ares
  • hpseaton
  • CreditFigaro
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      CreditFigaro  
    • Jeni_Shalloe:

      Sure, let's abolish the fed and the IRS and see what happens to our country.

      Lets see:

      No more department of defense funding at all. OK, so that means states have to maintain their own militias. Boy that's the dumbest idea ever.

      Ares is not the lunatic, in this case.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • Jeni_Shalloe:

      Are you serious?!? Because abusive and unconstitutional progressive income taxation ends we will lose our military?!? Our you guys listening to these lies?!? WOW......as if consumption taxation wasn't called for with this purpose in mind. If the IRS and protectionist efforts of the Federal Reserve would be abolished, our economic growth would skyrocket meaning we could tax less and gain more from the raise in overall GDP. To even think that the military industrial complex is going away is asinine and childish.

    • 2 years ago
  • rmann0581
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      rmann0581  
    • IRS=slavery
      Depending on what healthcare "reform" is passed, the IRS may controll American people's healthcare.
      Rand Paul and Peter Schiff for senate

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • shanklinmike
  • J_Jammer
  • CreditFigaro
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      CreditFigaro  
    • J_Jammer:

      If it weren't for the IRS we wouldn't have any federal funded anything.

      No healthcare for seniors, no social security, certainly no military, etc. etc. etc.

      The IRS is there to make sure that no one pays their taxes differently than the rules that have been set out which ALL people must follow.

      If it weren't for the IRS, states would have to expend huge amounts of their budgets on auditing lowlifes who try to evade their taxes.

      They are simply enforcing the law in order to make our society fair.

      When people bitch about the IRS, it's no different than thugs bitching about the police.

      The IRS is there to serve and protect.

      I am sorry that you made enough money to have to pay taxes, that must be so hard. Boo hoo. Do you want some cheese with that wine?

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • J_Jammer:

      It would be better to have this spending at a more efficient state level versus continually dumping it into an inefficient Federal monopoly. Besides, the constitution called for consumption taxation that were to be low to allow more economic prosperity, not income taxation at discriminatory rates and progressive taxation. The whole idea that the IRS has an overall marginal value greater than the social marginal cost is a fallacy and needs to be rejected. The IRS thinks they are above the law just like most cops. The problem is about the power structure and giving a corrupt system even more power to destroy our economic growth and prosperity. If you believe the politicians and bureaucrats are going to "fix" this problem with the same ABC alphabet soup programs that led us to where we are, then you seriously aren't paying attention to the political realm.

    • 2 years ago
  • CreditFigaro
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      CreditFigaro  
    • J_Jammer:

      I've seen this stupid movie.

      It could be argued that Stare Decisis has long since ratified the government's power to tax.

      First of all, you haven't substantiated ANY of your claims and some of them just don't make sense, like having the IRS being a decentralized system, state by state. How is that cheaper? And please explain to me, with numbers, why the value of the fed doesn't add up to it's cost. Hm? Do you even know how to do that?

      The constitution calls for an apportioned tax.

      Here is the definition that you seem to have forgotten to look up:

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apportioned

      It means to allocate proportionally. That hardly excludes a graduated tax system.

      More importantly, a flat tax system, in execution is inverse to a graduated system based on income. "Why is that?" you may ask, my economically numb friend. A nice economic concept called the marginal propensity to consume.

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marginal+propensity+to+consume

      There is a guy on Wall Street whose income has 3 commas. What do you suppose a person does with that kind of money, hmm? With a billion dollars, you could give yourself all of the most expensive personal effects on earth (car, boat, food) and still have plenty left over.

      What does he do with that money? He saves it in real estate, stocks, bonds, whatever. So, he doesn't stimulate the economy. However, someone who earns 7 bucks an hour cleaning toilets and flipping burgers spends all of his money on necessities and uses up his paycheck, in full, just to pay the bills that he can barely meet and he sits well below the poverty line. His MPC is 1. Every dollar he gets is going to directly stimulate economic growth. Mr. Billionaire's MPC is probably closer to .1 if he can even figure out how to spend over $100 million a year. I know I couldn't.

      Every dollar that Fatty Fuck Mr. Fat Cat gets taxed improves our economy dramatically.

      Let me take this a step further to complete my point:

      If we have a flat tax like sales tax of say, 10%. The poor guy's tax rate is 10%, where Mr. Billionaire's tax rate is 1%.

      If you are for a flat tax, you are a sheep with a blank slate when it comes to economics. If you loudly proclaim that you or anyone you know would be better off under a flat tax system, you are simply spewing forth a political meme that someone told you to believe without evaluating the impact of such a policy.

    • 2 years ago
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