The public knows the GOP are fibbing: Poll
source: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/09/24/healthcare/
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There have always been two basic arguments for health insurance reform: one based in morality, the other self-interest. For a documented 45,000 persons to die prematurely in America each year because they can't afford proper care is a national disgrace. Almost everybody apart from "conservatives" whose moral imagination is limited to judging other people's sex lives understands that.
The current cruel, wasteful system is indefensible. Surely that's why almost three-quarters of physicians polled by the New England Journal of Medicine favor genuine reform. About 63 percent of doctors surveyed nationwide support a public option; 10 percent would prefer a single-payer system, basically Medicare for everybody.
For all the hullabaloo, it appears alarmist rhetoric hasn't scared ordinary people as much as it has cable TV anchors. A Bloomberg poll asked which right-wing objections people found legitimate, and which were "scare tactics." Basically, voters rejected GOP rhetoric almost 2-to-1. About 63 percent think Sarah Palin's "death panels" are a distortion, versus 30 percent who fear them. It's 61 to 33 percent on the claim that health reform means government-paid abortions, 58 to 37 percent on the false claim that illegal aliens will get subsidized insurance, etc.
In short, hardcore opposition is mainly confined to the Republican "base," itself increasingly confined to the South. Why has Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, started making conciliatory noises? Consider these remarkable statistics from a Research 2000 poll: Voters in the Northeast overwhelmingly dislike congressional Republicans. The party's favorability rating there is a minuscule 7, yes 7, percent. Moreover, it's a paltry 13 percent in the Midwest; 14 percent in the West. Only in the South is the GOP politically relevant, with a 50 to 37 percent advantage over Democrats.
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lucidstone
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"About 63 percent think Sarah Palin's 'death panels' are a distortion"
I know from seeing it in the news all the time that it shouldn't disturb me . . . but if 37% of the population thinks that "death panels" aren't a distortion of truth . . . holy shit.
Just once I would love to see a corresponding IQ score to confirm whether or not that all of these people fall on the left hand side of the bell curve . . .
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lucidstone
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Both sides are liars... they are politicians so it comes second nature. The dems however are usually the lesser of two evils so here we are.
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masterzip
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The people that I know who have right leaning politics, just do not want another government run program that will tax them out of their shorts...that is their argument...They state the government can't run social security, a war, education, or anything they put their hands on,..so how is health insurance going to be different? They sometimes see that good intentions can turn into sour action or watered down laws.
The peoples fight should always be with the faceless corporations that manipulate both sides to always get what they want.
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samthesixth
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And you know the same is true for the Dems. Wake up to the fact that more people are registered Independent than either Dem or Repub. That is testament to the notion that voters realize both parties are made up of sycophantic hypocrites.
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samthesixth
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samthesixth:
That's all well and good, but we aren't talking about both parties. We are talking about the GOP loony bin.
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samthesixth:
But we certainly can talk about both sides and it would be a more relevant discussion than just pointing fingers at one side and ignoring that the other engages in the same behavior.
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samthesixth:
OK, so I guess it's all a wash. I mean, gosh, every time a Gopper does something stupid we just mention one thing that democrats did and then it's all even again, right?
Fuck that. The GOP is responsible for countless hypocritical behaviors and policy positions. If you go by comparison, it's daunting.
Saying that the democrats have a few hypocrites doesn't make the GOP's hard line insanity OK.
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samthesixth:
The Dems are the lesser of two evils in my opinion. They may lie and have corrupt/morally bankrupt constituents but hey at least they arent as bad as the GOP.
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Chique
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Encouraging! But I'm not sure anyone has informed some in MSM.
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WakeUpPeople
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I don't know about the rest of America, but this voter doesn't like his intelligence insulted by fear-mongering liars and profiteers. Repubs might want to rethink their strategies.
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Progresshiv
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The Far Right has fallen off the cliff of sanity and the funny thing is, they took the rope with them.
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