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Iran admits to 2nd Uranium Enrichment Plant

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After Iran heard that the US was going to drop a bombshell at the at the UN Nuclear Agency, Iran revealed that it indeed has a second uranium enrichment plant. The first plant is monitored by the UN, this plant has not been.

The US is said to have had intelligence on this site since the Bush Administration and they were going to announce these findings to the world at G-20, but Iran got wind of this, and tried to beat Obama to the punch by coming clean.

President Obama released a joint statement with Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy, they have denounced this plant, and demanded that Iran allow UN inspectors in immediately.

Because enrichment can make both nuclear fuel and weapons-grade uranium, the international community fears Tehran will use the technology to generate the fissile material used on the tip of nuclear warheads.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has released several conflicting statements since the announcement.

President Obama has stated that the Enrichment Plant is much larger then would be needed for peaceful Nuclear technology.

Do you think Iran poses a real threat?

Should the U.S. act to stop this behavior?
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  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • israel in its 60 yrs of history despite being attacked directly and indirectly by iran has never made a military move towards iran.
      further more of the smack talking going on in the region iran has been making enflamitory statements threatening israel since 1980 promising the destruction of israel and the jewish people as well as anything else he can think of to agitate the jewish people(like the holocaust is a myth).
      while the only threats israel has made to iran is the present one
      not to destroy them
      not to kill them
      not to rule them
      not to conquer them
      but to destroy irans nuclear facilities.
      take away irans nuke facilities the aggression towards iran goes back to the level it was before alll of this. zero.
      irans nuke program is not for defense from israels threats
      israels threats are the result of thier nuke facilities

    • 2 years ago
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • Iran is still playing chicken. Yo, Iran. we invented the game. You gonna frustrate us enough man, we going to unleash Israel, and those dudes are not going to play. They going to do it. These Jews do not appreciate being threatened. They even jumpin up and down to do it an' stop all you talk and tease crap. Man, you 'bout to be mowed down. We here in America, we don't even gotta lose one soldier. We just gotta cut the leash Madjob.
      you got that?

    • 2 years ago
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • ATTENTION ALL WESTERN NATIONS!!!
      JUBAL said...
      Any attack on Iran would be perceived in the Muslim world as a direct attack on their religion. It would galvanize the lot of them and then you will have real terror on your hands. They will all unite to retaliate and defend themselves. Israel will then be wiped off the face of the map along with many western nations who defend her.
      Yo, Jubal, all the Muslim nations all together, yes, combined all together, might have a huge total of loads of anger, bitterness, hate and curses and about four nuclear bombs. Try wiping out the Western nations which have more than seventeen thousand bombs and many of the newest ones will not even leave the old radiation clouds, boy. Those same Western nations which you threaten, are losing patience each day as they read the headlines and smaller articles.
      So why not call it what it really is?
      This is a religious war in your eyes.
      You are threatening the Western nations with a religious war. Please give them a few minutes to cry and run before you release all those new attacks. Please, it's not fair to just wipe them all out. They need time to pray and buy groceries.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • We are all aware of the purposeful long warning time Iran has had. Of course, since 2006 when they got their first warning to not build a nuclear plant to disguise a bomb, until today, they have been deliberately been given at least three years extra to develop their research and production while the U.N. continues to say things like, "Please stop," or, "Stop, pretty please, or, You better stop," and other silly phrases which we all know mean nothing and accomplished nothing.
      Why did Mr. Obama not even mention George Bush who is the hero, who was the first one to open his mouth unashamedly to Iran?
      Mr. Obama has not even acknowledged him.
      Mr. Obama only criticizes Mr. Bush. He even hugs Mr. Chavez who insulted our president.

    • 2 years ago
  • Maeveeo
  • FallenMorgan
  • acontradiction
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • acontradiction:

      Yes, the UN is our enemy and we the idiots, are hosting them and paying for them to come here and spy and laugh.
      The second you open the door of the UN, you already have 84 Muslim nations voting against you, without even psoing a question. No wonder you can't get anything done there.
      You are so right.

    • 2 years ago
  • ocanada
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      ocanada  
    • This is a hinge point in history. This is either George Bush letting India and Pakistan get the bomb or Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crises or something entirely different but its significance is evident. This is certainly harrowing but no one can deny it is historical.

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
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    • Which country with nukes is most dangerous to the world? Well it's the one shitty little country that refuses to join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. It's the one country which has threatened to use its "Sampson Option."

    • 2 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • FallenMorgan:

      because we are irans number two target ya know "death to america" or my fave "the great satan"(like there is a sliding scale of satans).
      not to mention they openly profess a desire to kill us. and up until and icluding right now they supply our enemies with the means to fuck us up.
      thats why we have a stake in this

    • 2 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
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      FallenMorgan  
    • "So, Ahmadinjad goes on insulting, tesing, warning, threatening and provoking, but Israel must not act preempively. They should wait for a few hundred thousand to be burned?"

      Remember kids. Don't talk shit about Israel, or they'll nuke you.

      Seriously, Ahmadinjad has little power, and the Supreme Leader of Iran opposes attacking Israel, IIRC.

      "Stand up and be a man. When a man comes to your house and bangs on your door for a few years and threatens your children, you're going to wait until he gets your kids and then you will react?"

      Killing people over some threats and bullshitting isn't being a man. And your situation isn't an allegory to this situation.

    • 2 years ago
  • TranceSendDance
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      TranceSendDance  
    • The U.S.A. invented Nuclear Warfare, and remains the only nation to use such horrific force.

      The only way we can protect ourselves and the Earth is by disarming our own nukes.

      We should shoot them all directly at the sun, along with our nuclear waste.

      The concept of military action because of POTENTIAL nuclear capabilities is corporate media static.

      War is big business.

    • 2 years ago
  • Robroy1
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • Robroy1:

      Look! It's back. A new visit by ROBROY1 HROLLER...
      Did you read this latest comment of his?
      In case you all missed it, here is ROBROY1 Highroller quote....

      "If I lived next to Israhell I would be building the biggest Nukes I could."

      Wow!
      Just notice the intelligence, the depth of thought, the brilliance of the mind, the intellectual superiority.
      Will scientists be begging for ROROY1's brain to study and learn from? Oh the humanity.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  
    • "some country's don't have the credibility to have nuclear arms."

      If you can think of a country with the credibility to possess nuclear weapons I'd like to hear it.

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  
    • flyingkick:

      If the US has 'credibility' after nuking 2 cities, decimating Vietnam, bombing Afghanistan to rubble, and invading Iraq, then Iran must have outstanding 'credibility'...

      How much damage has the US done to the world compared to the damage Iran has done? It's not even close.

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
  • bielski
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      bielski [removed]  
    • Some light relief from Israel's 2007 Eurovision Song Contest entry. Needless to say, it didn't win. I'm not sure it's funny anymore but musically it's brilliant.

    • 2 years ago
  • iamaman
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      iamaman  
    • after the last 8 years, the world does not need another arms race, one particularly based on Religion. Ideology was one thing, but theological radicalism is insane. most of Iran's population is under 30 and are more liberal, capable of understanding and capitulating for the "zero-sum" gain.

      unfortunately for everyone, (1) nukes create a lot of collateral damage, (2) Iran and Israel have a commonality where in they both have supremacist monotheistic theocratic origins.

      the effects of "the great war to end all wars" and the industrial military complex and application of "game-theory" economics to free market global capitalism.

      http://web.mit.edu/mitir/2009/online/mossadegh.htm

      http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/ww1.html

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
  • iamaman
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      iamaman  
    • iamaman:

      "A major asset to Zionism was that its chief spokesman, Chaim Weizmann, was an astute statesman and a scientist widely respected in Britain and he was well versed in European diplomacy. Weizmann understood better than the Arab leaders at the time that the future map of the Middle East would be determined less by the desires of its inhabitants than by Great Power rivalries, European strategic thinking, and domestic British politics. Britain, in possession of the Suez Canal and playing a dominant role in India and Egypt, attached great strategic importance to the region. British Middle East policy, however, espoused conflicting objectives, and as a result London became involved in three distinct and contradictory negotiations concerning the fate of the region." (from above library link)

      "blitzsky" said,

      "Your avatar suits you perfectly"

      thanks for the compliment.

    • 2 years ago
  • tolentino
  • cephas
  • iamaman
  • iamaman
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      iamaman  
    • http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jir/jir041102_1_n.shtm...

      "The IRGC leadership is widely viewed in Iran to be employing the nuclear stand-off as a vehicle to encroach further into the political sphere. As the constitution prohibits serving IRGC staff from running for office, a number of retired officials from its ranks have recently been appointed to senior positions or elected to the Majlis. There has even been speculation that IRGC could field its own candidate for the 2005 presidential elections. Further political influence, combined with its full control over Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programmes, could make the IRGC the most formidable obstacle to a transformation of Iran's foreign policy."

      http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58O45720090925

      "Obama and Medvedev agreed on Wednesday that serious additional sanctions had to be considered if Iran did not respond to proposals to end the nuclear standoff."

      IMO, Obama is handling this with great diplomacy. he knew the missile defense shield over eastern Europe was an easy card to trade for Russia's support in convincing Iran that it is heading in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, i think nukes have become a new golden calf for future emerging economies and societies. North Korea needs to be made an example of, through tougher indefinite sanctions, in order to prove that the security nukes provide is also a poor trade for prosperity.

    • 2 years ago
  • Abraham99
  • iamaman
  • FallenMorgan
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • FallenMorgan:

      So, Ahmadinjad goes on insulting, tesing, warning, threatening and provoking, but Israel must not act preempively. They should wait for a few hundred thousand to be burned?
      I disagree.
      Stand up and be a man. When a man comes to your house and bangs on your door for a few years and threatens your children, you're going to wait until he gets your kids and then you will react?
      Is that realistic?
      The police have been called (they are known as the U.N.). They haven't even batted an eyelash, let alone kick the offender off the front porch.

    • 2 years ago
  • current89
  • Tim_Shultz
  • Jino7
  • samthesixth
  • crasscharge
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      crasscharge  
    • The U.N. is not trying to make Iran get rid of their plant, they just want to know what they are planning to do with potentially catastrophic weapons. As long as everyone has there cards on the table its a fair game.

    • 2 years ago
  • jac1992
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      jac1992  
    • How do you hide a whole facility? If i can spot my house on Google earth, where you still can't get decent cell reception, how can Iran hide a whole nuclear facility? Seems like the UN dropped the ball a bit

    • 2 years ago
  • Hunnter
  • fun_size
  • iameam
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      iameam  
    • How is that we, and others, are allowed to have nuclear weapons, and some are not? If they have to get rid of their nuke potential, shouldn't we have to get rid of ours?

    • 2 years ago
  • idealist
  • Hunnter
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      Hunnter  
    • iameam:

      idealist is right.
      Nobody trusts Iran enough, especially now since they hid this after being asked about it.

      Only reason the countries who have nukes still have them is for the sake of keeping the peace.
      Anybody decides to nuke somewhere, they do the same, both are wiped out.
      Mutually Assured Destruction is till in effect today.

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
  • reckoner23
  • vinicius
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      vinicius  
    • iameam:

      I agree with you and I think that nuclear weapons should be prohibited for all countries. It's funny how other's here speak of "responsability", as if the U.S. didn't just attack a country for no reason... Trust me, if dropping a bomb was as profitable as this everlasting war on the middle east, the U.S. would have ended this was with Iraq in 2001.

    • 2 years ago
  • iameam
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      iameam  
    • iameam:

      Idealist and Hunnter... I understand what you are saying. But to me it just seems unfair. Actually Iran and North Korea have a better track record than the US. They've never nuked anyone. In that way it seems strange that we should be the one's policing them. We should have to give up our nukes too. Everyone should have to give up their nukes.

      Another thing... why is it that Iran is so untrustworthy? Hasn't the United States committed despicable acts all over the globe. What exactly do you mean by trustworthy?

      Pardon my devil's advocacy...

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
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      bielski [removed]  
    • "The size and configuration of this facility is inconsistent with a peaceful (nuclear) program," impotent Obama said, and further raises concerns that Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon.

      New York Times: PITTSBURGH — President Obama and leaders of Britain and France accused Iran on Friday of building a secret underground plant to manufacture nuclear fuel, saying the country has hidden the covert operation from international weapons inspectors for years.

      Appearing before reporters in Pittsburgh, Mr. Obama said that the Iranian nuclear program “represents a direct challenge to the basic foundation of the nonproliferation regime.” French President Nicholas Sarkozy, appearing beside Mr. Obama, said that Iran had deadline of two months to comply with international demands or face increased sanctions.

      “The level of deception by the Iranian government, and the scale of what we believe is the breach of international commitments, will shock and anger the entire international community,” British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said, standing on the other side of Mr. Obama. “The international community has no choice today but to draw a line in the sand.”

      A line in the sand? More deadlines. This is pathetic. How dare the "leaders" of the free world leave free people at the mercy of Islamic jihad with nukes?

      Thomas Sowell said last month:

      He is heading this country toward disaster on many fronts, including a nuclear Iran, which has every prospect of being an irretrievable disaster of almost unimaginable magnitude. We cannot put that genie back in the bottle — and neither can generations yet unborn. They may yet curse us all for leaving them hostages to nuclear terror.

      It's too late for sanctions, and they won't even do that. We are way out of time for sanctions.

      And so we must ask ourselves, will Netanyahu, the true leader of the free world, save it (and then get eviscerated for it)?

    • 2 years ago
  • iamaman
  • bielski
  • iamaman
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • bielski:

      Any attack on Iran would be perceived in the Muslim world as a direct attack on their religion. It would galvanize the lot of them and then you will have real terror on your hands. They will all unite to retaliate and defend themselves. Israel will then be wiped off the face of the map along with many western nations who defend her.

    • 2 years ago
  • uberdeft
  • acontradiction
  • reckoner23
  • mister_t
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      mister_t  
    • i don't want nuclear proliferation by any means but it is an untenable position to say "you can't have that but I won't give up mine until every one gives theirs up." Mexican standoff. No one ever comes out on top. Maybe time for a fresh approach...Of course Iran has very little integrity due to stunts like this.

    • 2 years ago
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • mister_t:

      Mr. T..
      I hear your point of fairness.
      However, Israel has more than 850 top uranium nuclear bombs and the whole world knows about it since 1953.
      Yet, Israel has NEVER ONCE threatened to use those bombs even though it was face with a few different wars. Each time the surrounding Arabs conspired together to all attack at once. Yet each time, Israel won and never even opened its mouth about using nuclear bombs.
      Iran on the hand does not even have two bombs yet, but it is already threatening to "wipe out Israel". That is why the entire world, even Iran's "friends" are against it. They know that this sleazebag is going to use it. Then of course, Israel is not going to play an Obama move and say, "That is not right, Please do not drop any more bombs."
      No way. Israel is then going to make it very difficult for the people of the year 2300, to find this place that they used to call Iran.
      So the whole is going to suffer from the radiation fallout because Iran's hate for Jews just made them lose it. More than likely, Israel is going to say, "Yo, the world hates us anyway. So WTF! We bomb Iran first before they dare do it to us, and Madjob already said openly that they will bomb Israel."

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • NaturalAnthem
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