CIA report: Israel will fall within 20 years possibly 5
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Tho Albert Einstein was asked to be the first president, he had some major reservations, and finally an ultimatum, to wit:
“The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.” – Albert Einstein, signatory, Letters to the Editor, New York Times, Dec. 4, 1948
"... latest manifestation of fascism." He couldn't have said it better over 60 years ago.
read about Fascism here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
The article and Study is at the link. And to the vocal RIGHT: You can say all you want to defend this ruthless and blood soaked government, but you cannot change the minds of most of the world about Israel. And you are not truthful when you use the argument that these people, including myself, are hateful, antisemitic, and terrorists, because the truth of the matter is the Israel governments actions and non actions as well as the deception and lies coming from their mouths. For the most part, we and myself love ALL people and the ONLY hate we have is violence-and thats from either side, but Israel has shown that it precipitates and perpetuates much and most of this violence.
When a REAL and HUMANE Israel is formed, then the world will accept Israel. And we would say Hoooray for that!
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freecrack
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similarly children being killed in african conflicts are not what we think either.
10 yr olds are trained with ak-47s and put on the front lines.
not exactly the picture of kids on a schoolyard innocently playing - 2 years ago
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freecrack:
Yes, freecrack, that is not a coincidence as you correctly pointed out. The terrorists purposely put civilians in danger so they can use the dead or injured civilians (sometimes they are children) to show off to the media how terrible these Zionists are. "look how these rotten Jews kill our sweet, innocent, tiny little babies. Oh help us world."
That's why they train tiny tots to kill so later they will be killed. They are sacrificing other people's children, not their own. - 2 years ago
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when the israeli air force targets a building for bombing they used to call the residents 30 minutes in advance to destroy the terrorist hiding spot and save innocent lives in the process.
but they had to change the policy to calling only five minutes before because in the thirty minutes hamas would get word and put children on the rooftops.
the civilian casualties of palastinians sadly (thanks to hamas) arent black and white like in conventional warfare. - 2 years ago
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Fallen Morgan, two girls are civilians, like the two "Palestinian," girls who were killed by a Qasam misfire the day before the war began.The difference is the IDF is not "targeting," civilians. Israelis put kids and old ladies in bomb shelters and Hamas puts their soldiers in them and throws the kids outside. There is a huge difference in regard for civilian life. Unfortuantely even the Israelis need to apologise sometimes. But I assure you cases of actual misdeeds will be hard to prove because they will be rare.. Heresay aside ...
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"IDF are not Targeting Civillans there is a diffrence"
So two girls, ages two and seven, aren't civilians?
I think I worded that wrong anyways. I meant that I don't favor either side in the conflict. I think both are acting like children over land.
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AHAPPYMINTLEAF...The pro Palestinian group you belong to has probably told you that they do not want the destruction of Israel.
The PLO charter says that it wants the destruction of Israel. Then in 1998, the PLO announced that it changed its charter. But that was a secret lie. Years later it was disclosed by the PLO's Khadoumi and it was found to still want Israel destroyed because the wording of the charter indeed remained the same anyway.
Simon Peres praised the supposed deletion of the call for the
destruction of the State of Israel from the PLO Charter as the most
important development in over a generation. yet time and again critics note
that the Charter was never actually changed. In the report before PLO
Foreign Minister Faruq Qaddumi agrees with the critics - "PLO no longer
recognizes Israel and adheres to its original national charter, which includes
clauses that call for Israel's destruction." )That is to say: the clauses are still there, even after the announcements and pledges.) - 2 years ago
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Abraham99:
I have read my organization's charter and no such hidden statement exists. Some pro-Palestinian group sincerely just want peace all around. It has nothing to do with religion. It has nothing to do with racial or cultural supremacy. Just peace.
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You will never find these reports on these super-politically-ultra-correct-abc-nbc-cbs-cnn-msnbc typical "news" stations. Like the New York Slimes, they will only show all the news they decide will enhance their tarnished reputations. (See the recent elementary school level coverage of the ACORN Scandals, or the Saturday march on Washington which they mentioned with a passing sentence or two, nor did they report on the Van Jones Scandal until they had to because he "quit.")
2009.09.29 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - Eight civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamic milita.
2009.09.29 (Kismayo, Somalia) - A local businessman is assassinated by Islamists.
2009.09.28 (Amman, Jordan) - A 40-year-old divorced mother of five is stabbed fifteen times by her brothers for having a 'bad reputation' in Islam.
2009.09.28 (Pattani, Thailand) - Suspected Muslim insurgents stab a man to death.
2009.09.28 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - Two 'enemies of Allah' are executed at a livestock market by fundamentalists.
2009.09.28 (Bannu, Pakistan) - Four people are incinerated by a suicide bomber.
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niether side is inherently right morgan but when you show only one side of the arguement you are supposing(in terms of narrative) that one side is right.
then of course the other side will rebut.
instead of telling the story of mean jews picking on muslums tell the story of two peoples amist tragedy.
otherwise like wptv and her lemmings you will be yelled at by the opposition to your position. - 2 years ago
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freecrack:
No one should ever be logically expected to show both opinions at the same time. I think everyone is aware that both sides are not entirely innocent. That clearly isn't the problem here.
From the comments I have read, however, it sounds like anti-Zionists want peace between the Arab nations and Israel, while some Zionists have said that Israel should be given more land and reparations, they themselves painting Israel a complete victim.
I don't believe anyone has said anything explicitly anti-Semitic, either. Yet Zionists seem to continually assume that anti-Zionists hate all Jews. I am 100% sure this is not the case.
Ultimately, both sides of the argument are coming here from such completely different views that opposing views just sound completely inane. But I'm trying to see where the disconnect is.
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freecrack:
@ ahappymintleaf;
"If history teaches anything, it teaches that simpleminded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of freedom." - Ronald ReaganYou willfully neglect to accept the purpose of the Palestinians as defined by their charter, and also ignore and deny Iran's nefarious involvement in this intentional chaos - - This Iranian regime is fueled by an extreme fundamentalism that burst onto the world scene three decades ago after lying dormant for centuries. In the past thirty years, this fanaticism has swept the globe with a murderous violence and cold-blooded impartiality in its choice of victims.
It has callously slaughtered Moslems and Christians, Jews and Hindus, and many others. Though it is comprised of different offshoots, the adherents of this unforgiving creed seek to return humanity to medieval times.On June 26, 1945, President Harry Truman said: "Hitler is finished -- but the seed spread by his disordered mind have firm root in too many fanatical brains. It is easier to remove tyrants and destroy concentration camps than it is to kill the ideas which gave them birth and strength. Victory on the battlefield was essential, but it was not enough. For a good peace, a lasting peace, the decent peoples of the earth must remain determined to strike down the evil spirit which has hung over the world for the last decade."
The world is entering yet another perilous moment in a history filled with such moments. One would like to think that humankind would learn from them.
Instead, once again, we are face-to-face with a moment in which yet another madman will seek to inflict a tragedy of unimaginable proportions on the Jews, a tragedy that could engulf the rest of the world in the blink of an eye.Your apologist decorum and obtuse exoneration of the forces of evil that are designed to besiege Israel from all sides is so obvious it would be laughable if it were in any other theater than the intended destruction of the Jews.
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600 years since the Holocaust?
Nope.
Only 60 years have passed and again most nations are against the Jews.
Most? YES.
Find one nation in the world which is against Israel and likes the Jews.
This "Zionist" name substitute for Jews is what's really happening.
Find even one country that is against Zionism but likes Jews. - 2 years ago
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Dave there are people on Current who want to "Equalize" the two sides..as both being the same! Pointing out Israel defense forces responding to Missiles being fired from palstine over the border in to Israel "with no guidance system" in other words blindly shooting at Israel Citizens then the Isreal "Defend themselves by "Targeting where the Missiles are coming from only the thing is The missiles were being fired from Schools and Hospitals along with other places where Collateral damage would happen if the Isrea responded! The thing is the ones shooting the Missiles did this in order to get video of it's own people getting killed by Israels response ..For the sake of Video to put on U tube the people would try to target their "OWN" and that is pure evil. They are not EQUAL Israel does not target Civilians the EVIL on the other side does....and the truth does matter. http://www.youtube.com/user/idfnadesk
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Birdmanbob4:
there also people who are tired of listening to both sides bitching about missiles from schools, gunning down rock throwing kids, blowing up buses, massacring villages, etc... Both sides have blood on their hands
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Personally I'm tired of both groups waving their dead kids around as badges of righteousness for their causes. Both have blood on their hands to the point neither can truly claim any moral high ground in this matter. I say shut up and find a way to co-exist or kill each other off quietly.
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Morgan as you know Current is Full of young minds that are in the process of forming their opinions. The far left is no longer a friend of Isreal. Only 3% if Isreal thinks Obama has their intrest im mind. History that has been taught in schools today do not really cover things like the reason the UN was created, and why Jews live where they live. Our media today does not cover a story unless it favores Obama...The Acorn story and the Van Jones story were off the Radar ov old Media untill Acorn got defunded, and Van Jones stepped down. The new lexicon of how information gets to the masses has changed no longer can CNN sit on a story and have it just go away. In recent years it has become Cool again to hate the Jews if watching a video of Jews being pushed in a mass grave by a Front loader Case Tractor makes you ill to your Stomach...Good! the Truth will set you free
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"because some of the views expressed on here are contemptible and nauseating and utterly unworthy of any respect. I have no truck with ignorance and bigotry. In fact I have declared war against it."
If you declared war against hatred and bigotry, why do you incite hatred towards Muslims and Arabs with some of your posts?
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FallenMorgan:
IDF are not Targeting Civillans there is a diffrence
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REMEMBER MY NAME BIRD MAN BOB I saw the video of Missles being fired from schools and public buldings putting regular folks in Isreal in danger...I don't blame Isreal for doing what it has to do to defend itself .........And if you do not think it is so I will have Andrew Brierbart put it on Drudge and Fox and on the B cast where people can still find the truth...Also if you go to The B cast and look up the vids from last wed. they give credit to someone for bringing the "TIP" about William Ayres writing B. Obamas Book...ME! So if this info brings down Obama you will know who to thank :) ME.......You spread the lies I will spread the truth! "Like Butter" http://breitbart.tv/?cat=49 http://www.breitbart.tv/the-b-cast-new-claims-confirmation-that-ayers-helped-wri...
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I am sure you missed the Palietians launching missles from Schools thinking Isreal should just sit their and not respond
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I have many many times blamed both side for fighting and have begged and pleaded for no more bloodshed.
But I have seen so much more blodshed come from Israel . Back in December who invaded Gaza. Who murdered all those children , Who used the children as shields, You seen the pictures from back in December,.Or did you have your eyes closed to the truth ? - 2 years ago
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I'm not blaming one side and exonerating the other. If you remember, I might have states in the past that I think the PLO is just as bad as the IDF.
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Israel, has not as policy, targeted the Palestinians, on the other hand that is not true of the Palestinians...I am sure you remember that Saddam Hussain paid$30,000 to hundreds of Palestinian mothers for every Palestinian boy who blew up Israelis and busses of civilians. And let us never forget why the UN gave Isreal to the Jews
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WORLDPEACETV...
Please continue to entertain us. Your posts are a lot like The Enquirer's headlines, "Electric Monkey Gives Birth to 95 Pound Terrorist" or, "Two Aliens Rob 23,000 banks in Oklahoma."
How authentic and real of you.
It's almost fun wating for the next.
Here let me take a guess,....
"Three Jews Massacre 42,000 innoccent tiny little Palestinians babies in the Hospital Nursing Room" or, "This Just in...25 Mean Rotten Apartheid Zionist Jews, drop 12 Nuclear Bombs on 3,400 Sweet Palestinian Women Who Were Just Sitting in a Sewing Class While Nursing Their Little, Small, Tiny, Just Born Babies." Oh yes, and remember to use the usual, very large picture of spilled blood. - 2 years ago
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The pro Iranians here need a wake up call as to why the UN created ISREAL If they don't like it talk to the muslem Contry's that have "ALL" the land in the area Isreal is so small compared to anyplace!
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"Bullshit. It is the only legal state in the world, legitimised and mandated by the UN. Check out your history. And no you are not a free man...you are a slave to your own wilful ignorance."
"Well if you really want to know....yes."
Why do you insist on belittling people for their views, and putting words in people's mouths?
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FallenMorgan:
because some of the views expressed on here are contemptible and nauseating and utterly unworthy of any respect. I have no truck with ignorance and bigotry. In fact I have declared war against it.
As far as putting words in other people's mouths is concerned, I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. - 2 years ago
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my bad i wasnt defending bielskis position although i understand it (i was raised zionist)
i was just responding to one point
for clarification
it doesnt matter whether or not they were recognized as a society before or not the fact that they were kicked out of thier homes is the issue.
all the other shit is smoke screen.
the question is since when is a conquering civilization expected to give back what they have fought to gain.
if thats the new world order fine then lets give western states back to mexico the rest to the indians.
why is israel the only country expected to do what no other country in history has even been asked to do? - 2 years ago
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freecrack:
Not even in the Pro-Palestine group I am a part of have anyone suggested that Israel cease to exist or give back all its land. The problem is that Israel is STILL taking more land and still forcing Palestinians into smaller and heavily guarded areas, despite UN protest and international disagreement. No country should get away with such actions today, especially one that is so heavily subsidized by one of the major world players, the United States.
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"100%"
Can you read minds?
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FallenMorgan:
Well if you really want to know....yes.
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No one questioned that you care. FallenMorgan questions all the words you are putting in everyone's mouths.
Okay. So the identity of Palestine is a recent invention. Isn't the idea of Israel just as new? Why is their culture and society more valid than that of others, even if their borders and sense of national unity is, as you are suggesting, weak? How much time would Palestine need to bond over the oppression they face before you will let them have an identity?
While there are many other acts against humanity occurring world-wide, none are as contentious as the conflict between Israel and Palestine. None are as thoroughly cloaked in mystery and complete misunderstanding, all of which must be challenged in order for any real progress to be made.
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ahappymintleaf:
The Palestinians also have a heritage, whether deserved or not, they've been deemed the dregs of the Arab culture. Sadly it is so, their own Arab race does little to assist them.
Israel is the fulfillment of a dream of the Jews through the ages, and their nation was built upon land that they paid for, even though it was offered to them by Britain, (who at the time time "owned" the territory)...and offered to them by agreement of the majority of the prevailing world governments as an appeasement for the atrocities perpetrated upon them through the holocaust. (in my opinion)The Israeli culture is valid because they have diligently worked hard for it and since their national inception, the benefits that they've contributed to the worlds societies is almost incalculable.
And on the contrary their borders and national "identity" is not even remotely as you erroneously believe - "weak."
Nothing has impeded the Palestinians from having an identity save themselves. They have had ample opportunity to focus their energies on building a national infrastructure with the billions of dollars from world aid that has been given to them, yet they collectively chose to invest in hate and war materials and further indoctrinate their own populace with hatred toward their neighbors the Israelis.
They had choices, and they are even now continuing to pay the price for those choices and their unyielding hatred... their chickens have come home to roost!
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when what others think (about your people ie you) is influenced by half truths you bet your ass we care.
said it before and ill say it again
compare rwanda or darfur and then really evaluate if its the palastinians need this attention?
it would certainly be deserved and far more beneficial elsewhere - 2 years ago
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"The sympathy on display here for the poor downtrodden and victimised palestinians is entirely fraudulent and rooted in malice towards the Jews. The bleeding heart humanitarians on here don't really give a shit for the palestinians.....they don't even know who or what they are. Their whole agenda is driven by hatred for jews and they are abhorrent racists and foul hypocrites pretending to care about the 'victim' the 'underdog'. It is a deeply sick and perverse game that comes out of a twisted bitterness and loathing for life, a loser mindest which hates life, success, progress and prosperity. To actually be in the physical presence of one of these appeasement monkeys must be torture indeed."
You seem to be so sure about what other people think.
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FallenMorgan:
''the state is illegal''
Bullshit. It is the only legal state in the world, legitimised and mandated by the UN. Check out your history. And no you are not a free man...you are a slave to your own wilful ignorance.
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The sympathy on display here for the poor downtrodden and victimised palestinians is entirely fraudulent and rooted in malice towards the Jews. The bleeding heart humanitarians on here don't really give a shit for the palestinians.....they don't even know who or what they are. Their whole agenda is driven by hatred for jews and they are abhorrent racists and foul hypocrites pretending to care about the 'victim' the 'underdog'. It is a deeply sick and perverse game that comes out of a twisted bitterness and loathing for life, a loser mindest which hates life, success, progress and prosperity. To actually be in the physical presence of one of these appeasement monkeys must be torture indeed.
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Hahahahahaha, WPTV, nothing I have ever read in any of your posts indicate that what you just said is true about how you feel regarding Israel's existence including this thread itself. Your guarded words are noted but they do not erase the past or the image you have created for yourself as partial to a particular side. This new post is like an "amazing grace," sung by a guy who still keeps a black hooker on call.
I have yet to see one happy peace story out of you ever. Mostly blame game kinda stuff. - 2 years ago
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Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
That's pretty clear, isn't it? It's even more specific than Golda Meir's statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.
In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here's what he said: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
No matter how many people convince themselves that the aspirations for Palestinian statehood are genuine and the key to peace in the Middle East, they are still deceiving themselves.
I've said it before and I will say it again, in the history of the world, Palestine has never existed as a nation. The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was never ruled by Arabs as a separate nation.
Why now has it become such a critical priority?
The answer is because of a massive deception campaign and relentless terrorism over 40 years.
Golda Meir was right. Her statement is validated by the truth of history and by the candid, but not widely circulated, pronouncements of Arafat and his lieutenants.
Israel and the West must not surrender to terrorism by granting the killers just what they want – a public relations triumph and a strategic victory. It's not too late to say no to terrorism. It's not too late to say no to another Arab terror state. It's not too late to tell the truth about Palestine.
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"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough".
- Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East" - - 2 years ago
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if gazans are trapped in gaza and not allowed to enter israel how can israel use them as slaves?
the organ harvesting story was proven to be a series of false allegations perpetrated by anti-semites. who debunked the stories? the palastinians. not an israeli spin machine but palastinians interested in peace not the prliferation of hate.
wptv you seem to understand the genesis of violence but you still fail to acknowledge the palastinians part in it.
the notion of a force to protect the true jews is insane. the holocaust proved that without israel thier is no international force of protecters.
how can you say jews would be protected when palastinians dont target israeli military or govt posts but the civilian populas, it isnt the state of israel that they wish to destroy it is the jews.
thier charters and actions state this very clearly. - 2 years ago
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Yep, still blind as a bat...and dumb as a post as well.
"Someone throws a rock at me and hurts me...I get a bigger rock and hurt them, they come back and destroy my family in retaliation.".....exactly the story of Israel since 1948, when it was attacked by the Arabs within 2 weeks of its inception as a nation!It has been the Palestinians who've been the aggressors from the beginning, and it is they who have it written in their "national charter" (and they've never even been a nation actually - just a coalition) to annihilate and push the Jews into the sea until they are "no more."
It has been the Palestinians who have rejected EVERY peace proposal and It has been Palstinians who have broken EVERY truce with acts of armed aggression.
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akamaial:
Is creating a country on top of the homes and culture of another country not an act of aggression? Like all countries form through invasion, like the U.S., South Africa, Israel, the less armed natives of the area have been forced out and kept as second-class citizens. The U.S. got away with it, and now gives the rights to own casinos as a guilt remover. South Africa was called out again their oppressing. And so will Israel be.
Israel is the country with billions of dollars pumped into their military and infrastructure, strengthening the country as if war was imminent. The Palestinians are oppressed everyday, humiliated and ignored by most of the world. Of course they would lash out. In no way it is truly justified, but clearly it shows how Israel has all the power in the relationship, and the complete ability to prevent more bloodshed by making reparations.
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Your rationale is so lame, that the only worthy response is to suggest that you follow the thread and learn something for a change and learn that Jews have been native to that land and territory for thousands of years.
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Alright. They aren't oppressed people with land being stolen and civilians killed for fun, they are all Jew-hating terrorists. You perspective is quite eye-opening.
"The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the land of Israel and accepting Israel 's ancient sovereignty over The Land."
I realize now I should not be bothering to make a point. And I was almost convinced of a middle-ground that I had not seen. I give up.
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mintleaf, you hit it....They're like kids holding the stolen cookie--ITS MINE! and they will kill for that cookie. There is no middle ground. We know who the real terrorists are. The right is blind and will only believe what they want to believe and lie to get there. In the end, they are only deceiving themselves. Its a wast of time arguing with people that really do not want peace, only bloodshed to get what they want, without having any consideration for anyone else. I will still post the truth and the right can lie all they want to discredit the truth. But, their noses grow with each lie and they cannot hide the truth any longer.
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akamaial:
'I give up.'
Phew! That's progress.
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akamaial:
wptv, their noses grow with each lie? ... bwahahahaa, there isn't a public transportation vehicle big enough to contain the length of your prevaricating snoze ... bwahahahaa
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akamaial:
It is progress, because it is so hard to determine those who can and can't be reasoned with online that the endeavor is simply too stressful to bother entering. I will no longer enter useless bickering. All these words are doing nothing. I know that I don't want any more conflict or bloodshed, and from what I've learnt I have developed an opinion on how I believe it can be achieved. I will do what I can.
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I may well be blind-as a bat! However, I hear the screams of Humanity asking for the bloodshed-from ALL sides-to STOP!
Violence only brings more violence. When will Israel stop? If Israel stops and takes a more humanistic approach, you'll see much positiveness.
Someone throws a rock at me and hurts me...I get a bigger rock and hurt them, they come back and destroy my family in retaliation. That make me even more mad. Had I or even the OTHER person stopped and took different approach that was NOT violent, only good things would come as long as one side or the other did not change the rules along the way like Israel has. As long as either side did not collectively punish the other sides family. Israel CAN bring peace. and CAN be the leader in PEACE. I dont want to see the destruction of either side, only the peace. - 2 years ago
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@whirled pees,
It is clear that you have not a clue about the mind of Islam and the nefarious means it will employ to engage the institution of it's demented theological dominion upon mankind.
You.Are.Blind.As.A.Bat - 2 years ago
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If this happens-Israels fall-the world will make certain no evil comes to the true jews of the world there-or anyone for that matter. So I would bet most world powers would step in and help to make sure there is no extremest entity to take over. Maybe this is the way to a true two state solution-who knows....but if Israel shapes up and has more compassion for its cousins the Palestinian people, Israel has a chance to survive as it is without falling first.
I nor many other people want NO HARM to anyone. Just fairness. - 2 years ago
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WorldPeaceTV:
"If" this happens?
Sorry, the bombs that are still inside Israel's borders would be used also, because Israel is not just going to get absorbed or adopted or annexed. Things will be automatically happening at the same time in distant and close places. That tiny country with its seven million Jews and almost two million Arabs, will not just sit and watch the dismantling-of-Israel-dream you were so quick to use from the CIA. By the way, how old are you (I mean that you believe that the CIA wants to tell the world the truth, so it makes an announcement)?
But you WORLD PEACE TV, you just continue on your holy mission to bring peace to the world through your constant messages of love. You may find this hard to believe, but people who are members of CURRENT, know how to read. Your messages show us where you are really at.
Dream on and try again to convince us that you only want WORLD PEACE. Perhaps acting lessons are needed. - 2 years ago
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WorldPeaceTV:
WPTV thank you for everything you post on here..All we want is for the world to be in peace with one another. We are sick of all the blood shed., all the innocent lives that have been taken. Sick of Israels war crimes going unpunished. And trust me that goes for America too. They aided Israel with weapons of war , Killed innocent babies, women, men . We want peace and nothing more . again thank you wptv.
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hamas and fatah aswell as every other power hungry hate group would fight for control of the palastinian territory.it would be worse than iraq or iran aswell as a breading ground for criminality.
terrorists would have a safe haven from wich no one could track them.
god forbid jordan and egypt lay claim to it then its full scale militaries fighting. - 2 years ago
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ahappymintleaf..
Awww, you just don't get it.
Well you see, if the KGB said that the U.S.A. would disappear in 20 years, most people would not just skip around merrily thinking that Canada will absorb it.
You wrote, " Ahmadinejad....has never shown actual aggression beyond his borders nor has he once implied or shown resolve to attack Israel or any other Western power." You actually believe that?
I'm not even going to go through the quote thing with you. If you don't know more than what you said, I have too much to teach you and not enough time.
There is no way, the Jews in Israel and Israel will just poof, get absorbed by its enemies.
World War III or, The Last War will take place first. - 2 years ago
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but some people would rather live in a world with steady jihad and no jews.
call me crazy ill keep the philosophy of knish's and bagels over that of civilian murder - 2 years ago
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All I can say is how did we get to the point of cheering for the country who was partying in the Street on 9-11 and condeming the people of Isreal "Our Friends" who were Morning with us? REMEBER 9-11 REMEMBER NEDA
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WORLDPEACETV...
This just came in from the KGB. You thought the KGB was dismantled, sorry, the only dismantling has been Obama's dismantling of America. The KGB just issued a warning to all fundamentalists that within four and a half weeks, Ahmadinejad will be gone. Please begin searching for a substitute hater. He will have to be below 4 feet so that his inner anger and desire to be powerful, will catapult him to murder as many as possible and show all the world, who is the boss in control, and who is big and large.
Also, WORLDPEACETV.... all Yemen and Syria should immediately evacuate because the Russian KGB which hasn't existed for ages in public, has just warned that both Yemen and Syria have no oil to offer Russia and must therefore be bombed within three months, three weeks, and three days. Careful now. Keep the hate alive, but better do it elsewhere.
Always stay with the motto....Hate and Kill.
Remember to keep the religion going strong. Hate and Kill. - 2 years ago
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Abraham99:
Uh, what? Where are your sources for this, and what does it have to do with a CIA report concerning the future of Israel? The article in no way suggests that the end of Israel will have to do with mass deaths or revolution, just that it will become one state with the Palestinians territories or that people will voluntarily leave under international scrutiny.
Also, while Ahmadinejad is a corrupt man that has no right to have power in Iran and has led many atrocities against his own people, he has never shown actual aggression beyond his borders nor has he once implied or shown resolve to attack Israel or any other Western power.
This article has nothing to do with hate. I don't understand the perspective of most commenters on this article.
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Abraham99:
If you do not understand! That explains most of your comments.
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Should ever come the day that Israel "falls" will be the day the world realizes the true horror of Islamofacism and then will come the true impact upon liberal America and their Utopian la-la land ideology, when they have to accept the hard reality that they've had their heads so far up their asses that not only have they failed to see daylight, but their brains have been addled from the stench of their own bullshit they've been spreading for decades!
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for the truly initiated you can search through currents history of stories and find that this one isnt actually even a new story.
about six months ago or so either highroller or wptv or one of these really loving people posted this exact story.
for the purpose of clarification current news (presumably) is about stories that are "new"
and i dont think a story that was posted on this very site previously constitutes "news"
just rehashing old hate speech
usually i can at least applaud your effort as where hear its sad, like those neo nazis who sell mien kampf in the hopes that one day it will be a ny times best seller. - 2 years ago
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freecrack:
It has become so common that I can almost predict the posters identity, despite the avatar change. It is similar to voice analysis to determine a liar!
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Oh yes Ingloriousbitch!!!!
You have it together!
you are so right!
Thank you! - 2 years ago
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WORLDPEACETV is so wonderful because while he thinks we are all suddenly going to yell. "Heil Shitler," because we read his latest load, yet, all he really does is awake in many of us the reality of how shallow minded and low IQ commenting some of these dudes are. In the meantime, we get to be motivated to speak up against all the typical, expected, known pests who mostly murder but often become nuisances. Christians unite! We must teach these murderers about this incredible concept called, L O V E. Right now and for almost one and a half thousand years, they have been spreading hate, war, death, rape, murder, and they have been teaching it to their kids. Keep reading, you will find reports of new murders and I did not invent or make any of these murders up.
I am glad now to report that the latest installments to the daily murdering going on by very holy and religious killers who are very busy working for Mohamed who in turn works for god.
So, here are the LAST TWO DAYS .
Yes, here is what the terrorist members of the religion of peace did on Wednesday and Thursday. Ain't they cute? Don't you just love how hard they work for god to give them sex in heaven?2009.09.23 (Herat, Afghanistan) - A teenage boy is gunned down in his home by Islamic militants, who also injure his sister and mother.
2009.09.23 (Mosul, Iraq) - Four Iraqis are killed in two Jihad bombing attacks.
2009.09.23 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) - Three children and two women are among seven innocents wiped out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2009.09.23 (Pattani, Thailand) - Two Buddhists, one a 19-year-old woman, are brutally murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2009.09.23 (Yala, Thailand) - A 16-year-old boy is shot to death by Muslim radicals in a drive-by attack.
2009.09.24 (Bannu, Pakistan) - Islamic radicals open fire on two cars carrying tribal elders. Nine victims are murdered.
I almost forgot to keep up the records but the "PEACE" TV thing got posted, I decided to gather the latest from the PEACE people. These brave sneaks and sleazebags above just now written about, are the brave heroes who hide under rocks until they can murder some people and then go to heaven for sex the way their god set heaven up.
Oh the intelligence, the deep thoughtful and peaceful ones whose god made a special sex heaven for murderers of people who refuse to convert.
Ain't they cute? - 2 years ago
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OOOHHH I get it, another biased Jew hating Palestinian source with a name like Intifada dadada who has already been accused of lying and has to "stand by his story," which NO ONE can confirm. Great work WPTV with your backround checking, did the Iranian guard send it to you personally? I thought they caught these guys in Colorado already. Apparently the FBI is moving slow.
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IngloriousBitch:
The article is posted by a Black Liberation newspaper. Not exactly Palestinian. And I'm pretty sure there was nothing racist in there. Did you read it?
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IngloriousBitch:
I did read it, on your advice. However, it seems to be based on pure speculation, with a strong hint of racism toward Jews. Basically, it states that the World will turn against a Jewish state, which is not news. Palestinian births rates is a poor example for recognizing a country's identity. If that was the only criteria, rats would control every nation on earth!
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Revelation does not support the fall of Israel, but rather the destruction of Israel's enemies! Don't hate me I am just reporting the facts! It is has already been determined.
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Current report.
The CIA has already fallen.
Their Obama-watered-down-powers are seriously diluted. Their report is the result of Emanuel and Axelrod pushing in the background to frighten.
Their tactic though is fairly see-through for anyone familiar with political diversions.
This Chicago group of has-beens lacks international tact and its diplomacy reeks of follow-what-the-Europeans-want wasted energy.
We aren't falling for it and Israel is only going to be provoked to do heavy arming and they will deploy tiny things that make large booms in every hate center country. If doomsday comes, there will be huge devastation on the planet. The amateurs at the CIA, directed by city centered boys who are trying to be the diplomats they aren't, have inadvertently just spurred great interest in proactive retaliation. - 2 years ago
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The fact that when Israel falls, does NOT mean anything bad to happen to ANY people-just the removal of this blood soaked Israeli government! Go back to sleep!
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WorldPeaceTV:
Only AFTER the bloodier soaked government of Iran falls, that is if you care anything for proportions. Which you clearly don't by your racially ignorant remarks.
This is like a Nazi manifesto. In fact, it completely ignres the fact that most of the arab world is owned by conquering whordes of slave owning fascists. People WPTV loves to defend in this hypocrytical rant. - 2 years ago
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''I say hooooray for the fall of Israel,''
This is genocidal hate speech and advocates mass murder. WTF are you still doing on here? Flagged. And if you're not banned completely for this, then current has truly lost the plot.
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bielski:
Did you read beyond that line at all? There's really too much to say of why your comment is far too heedless.
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bielski:
"Mint", is English your first language? Otherwise, I do not understand your comment, sorry.
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bielski:
plz explain how this is a hate speech . We all want to see peace world wide and if it takes israel to fall face first then let it be.
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bielski:
whether one agrees with the statement or not, to equate the fall of a government/country to genocide is overly dramatic and erroneous.
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bielski:
Bielski If you have ever played wack a mole, the game where a mole sticks it's head up then you take your Hammer and wack it down...If the Mole never sticks it's head up you can never hit it!...I used to listen to Rush for years ..and what I learned was if the far left opens it's mouth you can point out how redicelus their ideas are! ...let them open their Mouth...For the world to see !! to open their Eyes to how utterly stupid their ideas are! ...then with the truth on your side Wack them down!! ...Bob
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bielski:
I agree with loon gibberish is not widely accepted anymore unless youre from detroit or alabama
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An excellent book that can be bought on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Israel-Counterpunch/dp/1904859461The Case Against Israel argues that Zionism was responsible for the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians and that Israel is responsible for its perpetuation. The argument rests on widely accepted factual claims and impeccable sources. It avoids rhetoric and gratuitous moralizing. There is no attempt to blacken Israel through association with colonialism, imperialism, or racism. Instead, Neumann's argument emphasizes the fateful Zionist quest for Jewish sovereignty in Palestine. This quest-not the massacres or plans for transfer or other blots on Zionist history-made violence inevitable and compromise impossible. The prospect of Zionists gaining the power of life and death over all inhabitants of Palestine had to be seen by the Palestinians as a mortal threat. They responded accordingly.
The tragic consequences of the quest for sovereignty did not follow all at once, but in two stages. The Zionists established a sovereign Jewish state in 1948. Had they been content with that, peace might have followed the 1967 war, when Israel could have backed the creation of a Palestinian state in the occupied territories. Instead, Zionists pushed to extend Jewish sovereignty, this time through the settler movement. The settlements were a renewed mortal threat to the Palestinians and once again necessitated a violent response. The only solution is for Israel to withdraw, unilaterally, to its 1948 borders.
Michael Neumann was born in 1946, the son of German Jewish refugees. He graduated from Columbia University with degrees in European history and English literature, followed by a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Toronto. He teaches moral and political philosophy at a Canadian university. He has written What's Left?, a critique of 1960s radicalism, and numerous articles relating to the Israel/Palestine conflict. His academic work includes The Rule of Law: Politicizing Ethics as well as articles on utilitarianism, rationality, and rights.
About the Author
Born 1946, the son of German Jewish refugees working for the US State Department. Graduated from Columbia University, followed by a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Toronto. He teaches moral and political philosophy at a Canadian university. He has written What's Left?, a critique of sixties radicalism, The Rule Of Law: Politicizing Ethics and numerous articles relating to the Israel/Palestine conflict. - 2 years ago
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