Community | September 25, 2009 | 30 comments

Barack Obama, Its time for Full Disclosure!!!

source: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e23_1252800065

KSirys
If the same astronauts we believe reached the moon, go in front of the public and talk about E.T, than why can the government do the same? Stop hiding and start telling us the truth!!

Let me know what you think!
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30 comments // Barack Obama, Its time for Full Disclosure!!!

  • J_Jammer
  • KSirys
  • J_Jammer
  • KSirys
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  

    • KSirys- I received you last comment in email but it's not posted here yet. I'll go ahead and maybe you'll see it and maybe you won't. I'm disappointed that you don't understand what I'm saying because I tried. You sound sure of yourself to the point of being arrogant about what you "believe". Please consider that believing and knowing are two different concepts. You believe there are aliens but you can't possible know because you don't have proof there is. I also believe aliens could be the reason for these sightings but I can't possibly know because I don't have proof there is. One of the first principles of education as taught in college is the difference between knowing and believing. Believing something simply does not make it true. Whether you want to hear it or not this the basis for rational thought.

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • wayseeker:

      Wayseeker, how did we come this point? Because I made a statement on your comment as being closed minded? or the statement about not rushing to judgement here? Please accept my apology if you feel i'm being arrogant here.

      As i'll point out again, I respect others opinions and beliefs. I never called J or you a name because i do respect the both of you and your comments. I did say to J if he was in a black hole because of the comments he made. But I will call people names when they are ignorant and dicks.

      Now, I don't have any hard evidence that Aliens exist, but have tons of visual proof from other scientists that have study evidence for years, have come across ancient artifacts and agree that it's impossible for humans to have ever make it. So, I stand by what I write because I myself have seen enough, to believe.

      I also understand the basis of believing and knowing, but if you want to point out the principles of education, maybe you should apply those rules when making statements like the one before... "Vatican denies hiding the full truth about the end of the world" This is one of the headlines on this site. This site is pure sensationalism and similar to the tabloids at the check out counter."

      At the check out counter? Maybe next time, instead of attacking an article that had nothing to do with the Vatican or end of the world topic, you sit back and read, study and then make a sound analyses or comment on something that is posted, while agreeing or not.

      I invited you because of the comments you have made in the past and I felt like you and J can add a great comment but to come here and call it sensationalism, is a bit overboard.

    • 2 years ago
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  
    • wayseeker:

      KSirys - You have every right to come to your own conclusions about aliens or anything else. Sorry I preached to you on rational thinking. I reacted harshly to your "narrow minded" statement because with me nothing could be farther from the truth. I don't think we are really that far apart. We got stuck in technicalities. I also believe there is something strange going on because so many trustworthy people have experienced something over such a long period of time and in so many locations. But of course we have to sort the through the exaggerations,over active imaginations and down right hokes to try to get to what really is going on. You're probably aware of the scientist the Air Force gave the task to to investigate UFO claims called the Blue Book project. He was supposed to deny all claims as natural concurrences etc. Now he is saying that he does think some of these claims were valid and need to be investigation. Anyway, I agree with him so you and I are not that far apart in our thinking.

    • 2 years ago
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  

    • When someone tells me the pope is withholding when the end off the world will happen they don't exactly win my trust because I know bull when I hear it. I consider myself very open minded, however jumping to conclusions is not proof of open mindedness. I watched a program on the science channel the other day which used scientific method to debunk or explain a good number of alien reports and theories. The brilliant scientist, Carl Sagan who by the way thinks that time travel may be possible, was the host and at the end of the program said there are things we are just not able to explain and so we shouldn't leave possibilities out of our estimations about life. But being a scientist, and however open minded he is, he requires more than somebodies say-so or something that appears to be a certain way, to reach a conclusion he can call a fact. So that's where I'm coming from. Maybe someday I can call the existence of aliens a fact, but not yet.

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  

    • Really hunzedog? i guess you were one of the many farm workers, picking corn with your bare hands and making 50k a year.

      Sorry to hear that GED didn't take you further in life big boy!

    • 2 years ago
  • hunzedog
  • hunzedog
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • KSirys:

      lol... really? my girlfriend calls you that too? wow, i thought she had manners, don't worry, I'll talk to her and next time she sees' you in the zoo, she'll be nice to you!

    • 2 years ago
  • hunzedog
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      hunzedog  

    • i want full disclosure of where the cash in my wallet went. ET didnt steal my JOB ! but he was an alien ! illegal that is !

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  

    • oh ok, now we need tangible proof. Ok, well it's better then the comment you before about "This site is pure sensationalism"

      Let's be open minded and not rush to judgement next time....

    • 2 years ago
  • idealist
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      idealist  

    • i once saw a shooting star change directions 6 times rapidly and take off again.... is that possible?

      the universe... what a concept! : )

    • 2 years ago
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  

    • There have also been a number of pilots as well as peace officers who have witnessed strange phenomena. I believe they saw mysterious happenings so I'm not discounting any possibility. Maybe they were aliens but don't know if that's what they're seeing or if it's something else we just don't know about yet. I'm just reserving judgment until there is tangible proof.

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  

    • Wayseeker, some of the videos are taken from Nasa, not from some 14 yr old's basement with enough time to create a spaceship and say he saw God in it.

      Again, I'll agree with the both of you that Yes! there are more fake videos out there of E.T than real ones. But what about the ones that Nasa records, than magically take off their servers and never comment on them? How about the handheld videos that Astronauts take from outer space and show again, flying saucers just hanging around.

      Lets not be ignorant here and think that 100% of the videos are fake, because if that was the case, then what proof does anyone have here that the US of A landed in the moon? if we only have their video proof or are we going on record here and saying their video is fake as well??

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  

    • No J, it's one thing if astronauts and people were seeing shadows and bright things in the sky, but that's not what's happening here. If you took time out of your day to look at the videos I have there, you will see the difference between shadows and flying discs.

      And the comment you made about "Why do they abduct with such great technology" well, I can ask the same question about our government. Why do they take prisoners, have them deported to other countries to interrogate them when they can do it here? Let me guess, do something they won't do here.

      Again, why did so many ancient civilizations think the same about building pyramids instead of tall straight buildings? Remember, they weren't near each other or able to communicate either.

      There are a lot of questions out there that need explanation, but lets face the facts here. Astronauts, not regular folks, are the ones coming out saying that they have seen Aliens and space ships. Again, not people with 9-5 jobs, because why would someone believe them? But Astronauts!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • KSirys:

      I don't believe people based on intelligence level I think they have. That limits who you can believe and with what and that isn't anywhere near open minded if you restrict who is smart enough to dictate what to you.

      I did see the videos you linked.

      I don't have an explanation nor would I try to give one. Whether or not I believe in them or whatever it doesn't matter because if they exist they exist and it doesn't matter what I think. Someone cannot believe that Japan exists all their life because they've never set foot there or seen it with their two eyes, doesn't mean that since they don't believe it exists that it all the sudden disappears.

      Atheist don't dictate whether or not God exist. Their want of proof means nothing in the long run. Either He exists or He doesn't. There's no need to prove it to anyone and what they want isn't what is needed....it doesn't matter if they don't think God exists. Their ideas what does and doesn't exist does not and has not and never will create anything or take away anything in the Universe.

      I can state that I don't believe they exist and explain why. It cannot and does not take away from you thinking they do and it doesn't, also, mean I think you're crazy for thinking they do. I don't have problem with someone thinking they do nor do I have a problem with watching their proof. I just don't think they do.

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • KSirys:

      J, I was expecting something better than this but I guess maybe next time.

      Your point and rebuttal are weak, though you couldn't give me a simple explanation of what those "flying discs" were, because you couldn't, you have to find another way to still say you don't believe in UFO's.

      Hey, i respect others opinions and beliefs, but don't come here writing books about how we need to touch, feel and see something to believe. I believe our government is shady, they prove me right, almost every day and guess what? I don't need to touch it, feel it or see it...

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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    • KSirys:

      I could care less if they exist. I could care less because that wouldn't alter humans in the least like that man said at the end of the video. He's smoking something if he thinks the existence of aliens would make a lick of difference in human mentality.

      God existed to many people throughout the year and what did they do? Did they act better because they knew he existed? More like slaughtered people because they said God said this and they said God said that...can't have that...kill 'em.

      I don't need to see and touch and feel anything to believe. All humans (EVERY SINGLE ONE) has gut feelings and they decide so much on those gut reactions that evidence isn't really necessary. That's why innocent people go to jail. That's why first impressions are so important. That's why peer reviews are necessary.

      My gut states that they don't exist and these videos, as amazing as they are, don't really make me think any differently.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • KSirys:

      If there was proof positive of alien intelligence and ancient astronauts, then the world's religions would be abandoned by the millions. There would be tremendous panic and chaos among the fearful sheeple. You may not give a FF about them, but they can have a big impact on your comfortable life.

    • 2 years ago
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  

    • In my long life I've seen lots of things like this that turned out to not be what they appear to be. As j-jammer said, it doesn't make much sense that these entities or whatever that would be intelligent enough to transverse the vastness of space and time would then stick around and play silly games with us. Don't think you can't be fooled by someone who makes something seem very real because it happens all the time to all sorts of people. That's what magicians do.

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • KSirys:

      What's funny is this could be equated to believing in God. No one has seen an alien they just see things that they can't explain and therefore attribute them to aliens. As a person that doesn't believe in such I am not going to mock people and call them silly for thinking there are. It doesn't hurt me for someone else to think that the aliens exist somewhere.

      The videos and the logic used to state that they exist is sound enough to me, but I have other thoughts and they just don't add up with aliens existing. Aliens serve no purpose in existing...none. If they did exist why are they floating around and not making "first contact"? Why do they abduct when their technology is so advanced they can fly in space at great speeds? They should be able to scan without touching and get to know what they want via that.

      It doesn't make sense to me.

    • 2 years ago
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  

    • "Vatican denies hiding the full truth about the end of the world" - This is one of the headlines on this site. This site is pure sensationalism and similar to the tabloids at the check out counter.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  

    • It doesn't hurt to do what he's asking. It's just like that movie The Network where he asked people to send a telegram to the White House and thousands upon thousands did it and something happened.

      I think protest are the MOST asinine human invention EVER. As with many inventions that are terrible there happens to be a few times when they are used right. (I think the only ones to use it right is the Writer's Guild and the Actor's Guild).

      This isn't a street protest...this is writing something simple and sending it to the White House and if it happens to be true and lost upon lots do it....something could happen.

      I don't believe their are aliens. This idea that there are multiple planets why wouldn't their be is like stating there are multiple species on this planet there must be another on Earth that is just as 'smart' as humans enough to rule....that's not the case. Humans are the only ones. Or that there are 7 billion humans and if the majority were peaceable then peace would overpower the 'bad'......

      Multiples does not mean better chances of something occurring. It doesn't correlate into everything. It's like those questions that state: Mary is taller than Bob. Bob is shorter than Sam. Is that enough information to state that Mary is taller than Sam?

      I agree with this method of getting answers. It's how to do it and it does work....push like this and you'll get more of what you want than if you protested.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • cynker
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