Military Attacks US Citizens Protesting World Government

way to be judgmental...people are standing up for whatever it is they believe...what do you believe?maybe we should sit and suck some more politician dick?...sounds good huh?....Plz go back to sleep.Theres' nothing more meaningless than an unaware citizen.

iamfree,

Your outrage toward bishop would be a lot more convincing if you could point out the causes these people are pursuing. You sound as though you support violent confrontation regardless of whether there are legitimate grounds for protest.

Personally, I think some of the factions among the protesters have valid arguments and viable positions. For example, I think there is a marked tendency for countries that forge broader international trade relationships to pick the "lowest common denominator" between the two countries' labor and and environmental protection laws when determining which law will govern their trade relationship. I don't think America should be a party to such an erosion.

Other protesters, however, are clearly there for the sole purpose of fomenting violence and getting their kicks by destroying the property of others.

Theyre not protesting a conspiracy theory. The anarchists are there to protest against the leaders of the world. Greed. Wage slavery. Private property. Destruction of our environment. There's many reasons.

I guess the Anarchists can't be Ghandi.

primalscreamer said it all...cztheday wake up plz..its annoying

Hmmmm. Bishop's post pointed out the problem of posers and opportunists among the protesters...such as goth punks for whom the event was more a reason to cut class than to draw attention to legitimate causes.

Your apparently outraged response, iamfree, asked whether we should just suck politicians' dicks instead.

My purpose in responding to you was intended simply to argue that Bishop had a legitimate point that you had failed to address: how many of these protesters were "for real" in the sense that they had serious grievances for which they were seeking redress -- or at least an audience to listen seriously to their complaints -- versus how many were there just to be a part of the action or even just to cause trouble? I live in the Northern Rockies and don't know anybody in Pittsburgh, so I wondered that myself. I lived in Seattle when that meeting was held, and I know there were a lot of the legitimate protesters there -- but there were also a lot of total thugs who frankly made things tough for the legitimate folks. In fact, I found myself wondering if a few of the thugs were actually paid "plants" who were compensated by the authorities to do a little damage so they would have an excuse to crack down on the rest. That is a little more "conspiracy theory" than was completely comfortable in my mind...but it nonetheless seemed awfully convenient that a few windows were broken just at that time.

Anyway, primalscream seemed to react as though I was saying that the protesters were not legitimate. If you read what I actually wrote, "Personally, I think some of the factions among the protesters have valid arguments and viable positions," I don't see how he (or you) could come to that conclusion.

But that is what you appear to be saying now. If you find that annoying? Gosh, that's too bad.

cztheday, If I can help you somehow, I think what you are missing is to understand that the people are fed-up with all the government corruption and manipulation. I also do not agree with those that "get out of hand" during a peaceful demonstration but we all must understand the times that we all are going through right now. Life is comprised of past and present events. The future is what you decide to make it! But an unresolved past does blow up in the present!

revolution is occurring across the world...cztheday its people like you and bishop who wish only to point out the negative aspects of the revolt...of course people are going to be mad...and some are beyond acting like civilized people...but that does not undermine the fact that we need real change.Beyond reforms and bailouts...we need REAL change that is not only sustainable on a material level but on a conscious one too...Our society is built upon greed.Its then perpetuated by others who have "made it" and therefore see everything just fine..We ALL should be pissed the F off!Anyone who is absolutely happy with our government and believe these 20 "G"s are doing everything so right that the individual voice need not be heard can go suck it..its simply like that.its not time for business as usual anymore.wake up or stay asleep but please don't undermine the root problems of our global society that needs fixing.

I agree that there are posers among the protesters, but I genuinely feel the rage fomenting among the people. They are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, to borrow a line from the movie, NETWORK.

I have mixed emotions about this issue, whether or not violence has a place in protesting. Can you have a non-violent revolution? Is that possible?

The only non-violent revolution I ever saw was in Romania when the people marched into the capital, aprox 5 million of them, which was a huge percentage of the population and ousted the communist leader and installed democracy there. It was televised on PBS. It was awe inspiring to watch. But with the itchy trigger fingers cops and law enforcement officers have here in the US, I just can't see a bloodless revolution happening here.

Yes Jubal and I would like to add that this is the time we now hold hands and prey for the least amount of blood to be shed amongst those in the fray except for this commenter starting off this post where by using the cliche term "Goth Hippies" and I think I'm going to be sick now that I'm the 10th person to follow up this contemptuous attempt of drive-bye trolling.

I don't find anything fascinating about it at all. It's disgusting. The U.S.A. is dead

scary!!!!

clayjj05, I don't need to tell you how you're pathetic

clayjj05, Are you a troll? It is a little bit of a shame for one to come up as a troll right now. Here, we already know everything about you and your task force;

http://current.com/items/89099302_the-psychology-of-trolls.htm

Be informed and dissolve "blubber!"

Usually one is always affected by their location and position. Their views comes from what is happening to them, around them and what they are able to identify and see.

Now the mistake is to one to think that their position and location is the reality.

That means that there are always that challenge for one to prove what they are saying is real and true. That is the reason I go out there and film things as they are. For me, there is where that reality begins!

The issues here are three;
1. We do not know what happened that made the authorities react to interrupt or end the pubic assemble. The movie is very short and concentrated in the police action or counter action.
2. The post prove that noise can be used as a weapon
3. The Police is using it!

Do you believe standing there yelling 'citizens arrest'!, will make you immune? While 'troopers in formation feet away, advancing...?

"No matter your purpose... an un lawful assembly.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQUtNgecocY&feature=player_embedded

Police are filmed time and time again with a loud speakers blaring 'orders' to citizens! (Whom do the police serve and protect? The cities chief not it's people), covered in padding and riot gear(unlike the protesting citizens) arresting anyone that has contact of any form.

Like the bikers at the end of the clip i added, peacefully walking but being pushed by police then one woman explodes ..a few lumps and twisted limbs.. processed..printed. cavity exam...baloney, gov't cheese,cat food and canned veg circa 1870.

Your hilarious and right. By the time I got to your comment i was thinking "Yeah Obama IS messing everything up!" and after reading the comment, it occured to me that you can't assume anything out of this clip. Who knows what the people were doing to get that battalion of police there in the first place.

Yesterday I posted several times in praise of the work the Bush Administration -- and Bush personally -- did in combatting AIDS and AIDS-related illness in Africa.

And no, neither I nor anybody else I know blamed Bush for things like protests at the G20 summits (or crackdowns on those protests) or other matters that were completely outside his control or influence. We didn't need to. He provided plenty of ammunition by screwing up almost everything he really DID touch.

We are seeing this crap on Current every day now. Every time some state or local governmental entity does something a conservative doesn't like, it is Obama's fault and "change we can't believe in" -- despite the fact that Obama has no influence over state and local matters and the conservative in question is therefore simply making an ass of himself. Sad...but pathetic.

CZ, Bush allocated a lot of money to Africa, but it didn't really help that much. Abstinence strings were attached to every dollar allocated. Now if the money had been allocated to education about barriers and opened up more medication distribution in Africa, he might have been able to put a dent in the number of AIDS orphans and AIDS births. The Bush Administration stood in the way of new technology that would have helped the epidemic in Africa tremendously because it didn't encourage marriage and abstinence. The tech was invisible barriers, gel that kills HIV and a shot that makes a person HIV immune for 72 hours. These two technologies widely administered could have prevented millions of new infections.

I was just researching this subject for a speaker panel presentation at the First United Methodist Church we conducted a few days ago, and I looked up the stats on the World Health Organization website. Only 31% of those needing antivirals actually get them in Africa, where as 62% of Latin Americans do. There is a huge disparity, not only in the number of cases, but in the number of those receiving aid. I was however encouraged to see that the number of HIV positive mothers receiving antivirals has increased two fold in the past 7 years, but there is still a long way to go. Only 40% of mothers are getting the meds.

So what language was he planning on learning to allow him to go to Canada then?.. Nuff said.

um french? duh

are you retarded?

lol, actually the trade defecit has been cut in half since 2007. nice try though.

um hey i wasnt crediting obama with the deficit cut, my information actually comes from a conservative, anti-Obama, i am sure favorable to you, ::ahem:: news source. and aside from that, your projection of what the deficit will be for this fiscal year needs a source. one that comes from after thursday, you know, after that whole protectionist tariff rally.
do not insult me or assume you know who i voted for or what my opinions are on those issues. and i happen to like the undergraduate "liberal arts" education i received, from my esteemed professors in KANSAS, among which many were neo-cons and classical realists- i paid for it, and i worked hard for it. and SHOCK i still have my own opinions! you think it's brainwashing? is that because you couldnt cut it?

again, i specifically requested a recent estimate. figures changed with said protectionist policies, not enough to refute what source you're using, i'm sure, but i thought you were trying to discredit npr?
D's may get you a degree, but they certainly don't get your grad school paid for. again, do not make assumptions about me or my qualifications, i think you would be mistaken on multiple levels.

I think the issues with these kids was that there was a massive authoritarian presence there.

It all starts out peaceful until the kids get pissed that they aren't trusted, then all hell breaks loose.

Police should only go to break up the protests after shit breaks up, they should be there waiting for things to go wrong.

rights rights rights! we all have rights! i think the business owners in pitt had a right not to have their shit vandalized!

If they even need to ask, they are a lost cause.

There are many problems with a one world government. We have too many problems to function as is. I couldn't imagine the corruption and ignorance a world government would establish.

A one world society is what we need. A society where there are only local government who deal with local issues and no central or federal government. Then hopefully one day many many years from now there will be no need for any form of government.

However that wont happen anytime soon, we have too many problems to deal with now. Lets not exacerbate our issues by forming a one world government.

Its the freedom to assemble, not the freedom to apply for an assembly.

You don't need a permit, thats the beauty of the first amendment.

whats the problem with a one world government??? u should get smacked!!