Abortion Issue May Derail ObamaCare
source: http://renovomedia.com/politics/abortion-issue-may-derail-obamacare/
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bombastinator
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On the contrary it sounds like it might just be what pushes it through. According to the story if health care go through without abortion coverage it will severely reduce abortions in the US, which is major concern of the religious right, to the point of effectively outlawing them for everyone but the rich. Obama has made clear that he considers abortion to not be the business of the federal government, so is unlikely to fight for it.
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bombastinator
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JohnA
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bombastinator:
If we can believe anything Obama says.
- 2 years ago
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JohnA
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bombastinator
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bombastinator:
yeah, sure. Because the right sure seems to be telling you the truth. Mmm? Witness the last 4 or five major claims that have turned out to be completely fraudulent. There have been more outright flagrant and transparent lies coming out of the right lately than any group I've seen ever. The Left is not above lying necessarily, but at the moment they don't need to because they have a program that they can prove will work and the right has basically nothing but BS to throw at it. They don't even have a platform of opposition, they're just throwing everything they can randomly.
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bombastinator
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JohnA
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bombastinator:
I don't believe one word that comes out of Barack Obama's mouth, I learned not to during his campaign, which makes him only marginally less trustworthy than the Republicans.
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JohnA
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bombastinator:
Of course you don't. Someone spent several million dollars on an advertising campaign probably pointed directly at your demographic a year ago and you're still eating it up.
Can you actually point to a major falsehood that has not been shown to be misinformation by the opposition? Or is it all really just marketing?
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bombastinator
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JohnA
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I think health care for illegal aliens is a much bigger roadblock.
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JohnA
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JohnA:
Nope. Complete myth.
Someone has been lying to you for their own purposes. The democrats never supported health care for illegal aliens.
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bombastinator
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JohnA
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JohnA:
No, you're right. Obama wants to give them amnesty so they will be legal and then give them health care.
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JohnA
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bombastinator
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JohnA:
Not as much as Bush did. Obama's amnesty program is much smaller in scope. Also who said anything about give? All the systems I've seen are paid.
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bombastinator
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JohnA
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JohnA:
I wasn't for Bush's amnesty plan either. And if they can't afford to pay (which they won't be able to) who will pay for them? The American taxpayer, of course.
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JohnA
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JohnA:
You mean like thy already do now for exactly the same reason then? At least with the new plan the taxpayer would be paying less simply because the care would cost less.
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Nonsense. Obama is going to run it through, no matter how many bodies he runs over. It's only a speed bump- that's all. A man who is amoral is not going to let this stop him. Margaret Sanger is singing Obama's praises from her little corner of Hell- Obama is the "Black minister" of her "Negro Project" personified.
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unclecharlie
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unclecharlie:
>"a man who is amoral..."<
Which is why he won't. Obama is an incredibly moral guy. Much more so than, say either of the BushesSo many on the far right seem to equate their political preferences with a universal morality, while to everyone else they seem like the opposite. Adherence to one moral standard in a particular area does abrogate one of responsibility in all others. This is what al qaeda seems to fail to understand, and why IMHO the right seems to be taking on more and more of their characteristics.
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