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Iran: It’s just the fact of the talking that’s important

source: http://blogs.current.com/news/2009/10/01/iran-its-just-the-fact-of-the-talking-thats-important/

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What is happening in Geneva?? I just can’t stand the waiting! Are they finally going to work it out?

Hah. No. Probably not. It’s helpful to remember that in the world of foreign policy things can move glacially slow. The question for the P5+1 talks with Iran happening in Geneva is what direction is that icy relationship moving?

America and the West are focused on using these talks to eventually convince Iran to suspend its nuclear enrichment program. The NY Times suggests Iran will want to focus on other issues:

"For its part, officials and experts said, Iran is likely to turn up with a narrow agenda on its nuclear program, but a host of other issues, including overhauling the United Nations; giving greater voice to non-Western countries; and universal nuclear disarmament. It laid these out in a five-page proposal last month, which was met with derision by Obama administration officials."

FP Passport has the State Department’s take on the meetings in this morning’s “Briefing Skipper” (a distillation of the State Department press briefing):

"Crowley sought to manage expectations about the new talks with Iranian officials. “I wouldn’t expect a call for sanctions tomorrow night at the end of this meeting. I think we’re looking for a process,” he said. He acknowledged that Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was in Washington and that the State Department granted his visa request on the basis he wanted to visit the Iranian Interest section at the Pakistani embassy. There were no plans for him to meet administration officials, Crowley said. “I wouldn’t read too much into this,” Crowley cautioned the reporters. Right…"

So we’ll see what officials (from both sides) emerge with. But really the most notable thing happening in Switzerland today is the fact that the US and Iran are meeting at all
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32 comments // Iran: It’s just the fact of the talking that’s important

  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • still there is no plan from any nation right now asking to invade iran.
      they arent tyrants?
      ok still no plan to invade
      no nukes?
      ok still no plan to invade

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  

    • For the record:

      http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/MediaAdvisory/2009/MA200919.html

      With respect to a recent media report, the IAEA reiterates that it has no concrete proof that there is or has been a nuclear weapon programme in Iran.

      At the Board of Governors´ meeting on 9 September 2009, Director General Mohamed ElBaradei warned that continuing allegations that the IAEA was withholding information on Iran are politically motivated and totally baseless.

      The Agency receives information from a variety of sources that may have relevance to the implementation of safeguards. All such information is critically assessed by a team of experts working collectively in accordance with the Agency´s practices.

      The IAEA reiterates that all relevant information and assessments that have gone through the above process have already been provided to the IAEA Board of Governors in reports of the Director General.

      Press Contacts
      Press Office
      Division of Public Information
      [43-1] 2600-21273
      press at iaea.org

      About the IAEA
      The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) serves as the world's foremost intergovernmental forum for scientific and technical co-operation in the peaceful use of nuclear technology. Established as an autonomous organization under the United Nations (UN) in 1957, the IAEA carries out programmes to maximize the useful contribution of nuclear technology to society while verifying its peaceful use.

      NOTE TO EDITORS: For additional information visit the Press Section of the IAEA's website (http://www.iaea.org/Resources/Journalists/), or call the IAEA's Division of Public Information at (431) 2600-21270.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • mass murder? did iran relocate its mass numbers to thier nuclear facilities? because thats the only target in the discussion.

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
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    • Liberals and Democrats Will Support the Coming Mass Murder Campaign Against Iran Even Though It's been repeatedly proven that Iran has no WMD (just like Iraq)

    • 2 years ago
  • neosophia
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      neosophia  
    • maasanova:

      you are right about that...
      Shouldn't they have the right to progress the rest of their nation?
      Electricity is not a threat.
      With progress comes education, education brings freedom, with freedom comes responsibility..
      I seriously doubt anyone can make a statement that Iranians are innately irresponsible people.
      I mean seriously, our last president believed the old testament was absolutely real, and he had the keys to the stockpile... they are a democracy (granted with issues, but you can honestly say there is no corruption in any of our nations?) and two democracies have never gone to war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVER!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • maof4brats
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      maof4brats [removed]  
    • maasanova:

      I have been to Iran several times and the polution is horrible. Gas was 50cents a gallon. They need other power options. In parts of Iran they are starting wind power and solar. It will take time they have been ravaged by wars for decades.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • do you not recognize the acts of iran have been directly in line with what they would do if they were trying to get the bomb?
      2 facilities that if they were for serving energy needs wouldnt be together.where else in the world are there two nuclear plants needed to provide energy needs to one population?
      the un inspector can say whatever he wants without new inspections his information isnt currently representative.
      why does a non "green" oil giant like iran need with nuclear energy.
      it would be safer and cheaper to build more oil refineries than 7 nuclear facilities

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
  • maof4brats
  • maof4brats
  • My_America
  • neosophia
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
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    • For all of you who want blood and are still hanging onto the Zionist fantasy and fairy tales that Iran is producing nukes, here we have the chief UN inspector saying that Iran still doesn't have nukes.

    • 2 years ago
  • Zurama
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      Zurama  

    • Well....all I have to say is they better get it together soon, because Israel will shoot and ask questions later.

      I sure wish McCain were president right now!

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
  • bielski
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      bielski [removed]  

    • So what do you get for being a rogue Islamic regime that builds renegade nuclear weapons, slaughters its own people, hijacks an election and illegally seizes power, sows the seeds of war and destruction in neighboring countries, uses foreign proxies to attack free nations, kills US soldiers in Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan, creates Hezballah, funds and backs Hamas, and promises a second holocaust?

      In Obamaland, you get recognition and a one on one with the US for the first time in decades.........

      Pathetic.

    • 2 years ago
  • neosophia
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      neosophia  

    • Iran has the right to nuclear power.
      They paid for it, they went through all the required steps through the UN, and they even willing to do 3rd party enrichment programs.

    • 2 years ago
  • usmcpoole
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      usmcpoole  

    • This article is no good,no disrespect to afitzgerald but we the media is getting no where with this we will not find out anything until countries start getting into the nitty gritty talk. Give it a little time and Iran will start talking more about their enrichment plant just wait.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • if israel would strike just at the thought of this crazy man denying the holocaust why havent they?
      hes been doing it for over a decade now yet no israeli movement at all. not one single soldier reassigned as a result.
      maybe they arent as reactionary as you would like them to be to fit your evil israel theories.
      and iran is still in the middle east smack dab in the middle between afganastan and iraq.

    • 2 years ago
  • maof4brats
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • iran launches violence on its people daily. wether its thier own people or a people of another country the inability of iran to not attack people is in question.
      so while the terms of conflict we define as war iran has not partaken in but the acts of it they have.
      supplying terrorists groups isnt iran waging war?just using soldiers of a different name to do it.
      if we sent black water to the boarder of a country and supplied them with a steady flow of arms to be used in the constant killing of the people of that country wouldnt we have start a war?

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  

    • Holocaust denial is a strawman. There have been plenty of holocaust stories that were proven false, like soap made from Jews. No one denies the holocaust. It happened everyone knows it.

      Ahmadinejad simply asks why have Jews closed the history and investigation of the holocaust and why are they locking people in jail for talking about it.

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      Cont...

      Tormented mother

      I hope the people of the world bring to book these egoistic and bellicose politicians – who have immolated everything for the interest of a few companies and certain groups. I am confident that you and American people would not trust the pre-fabricated lies and complicated, poisonous propagandas that are made and broadcasted by the inhumane, aggressive and capitalist networks. And you do search and try to find out about the truth. Perhaps as you know - so many times - the Zionist media and those that are related to power clans, have even distorted my own words, and have told the people of the world, bunch of untruth regarding my country as well. I know that the environment you live in – even though there are many large networks of media that are affiliated to certain groups - to discover the truth is very difficult, yet, to uncover and expose the truth, for the intelligent people of that region does not sound impossible.

      I am sorry to say that the American people are kept in an absolute censorship concerning the outside world by their government.

      I am certain if the American people know where and on what, their tax money are spent, even the strong supporters of the government would not stand it and rush to the street to show their opposition in regard to that issue. What you can do is - to break the aura of deception and fabrication which has been created by the media affiliated to the government - and try your best to uncover and reveal the truth.

      Esteemed mother

      I hope that the world we live in would never see the darkness of a war and the people of the world can bring their call for peace across to the warmongers who have appeared as statesmen and call themselves as the guardians of others. I hope by early withdrawal of U.S. occupied forces from Iraq, peace, tranquility and fraternity would come back to the region. I also hope that the people of Iraq be able to live in peace and harmony next to their families and continue their own lifestyle. And finally, I hope that the American youth live next to their families and serve their own country.

      If you rely on Almighty God, you would succeed.

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
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    • Ahmadinejad's (alleged) writings don't reveal any this crazyness that you speak of.

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      A Reply to an American Mother`s Message

      In the Name of Almighty God, the All-knowing, the Most Lovingly Compassionate

      Venerable mother, Greetings

      First of all, I apologize for the delay of answering your question. This is due to my heavy schedules. So far, I have received many letters – with the same type of messages - such as yours.

      If your son opposed to go to Iraq and impose pressure on the people of that region, and then was forcibly taken there, certainly Almighty God would help him. And those who have forced your beloved son to go to the war are responsible for his blood and the bloodshed that they have caused. They should answer Almighty God in the Day of Judgment.

      In regard to statement you have made, since I did not want my reply lead to any problem for you, did not send it through e-mail, because if some agents are getting into private life of the American citizens and eligitimatley control them, may create problem for you. Instead, I decided to post the reply on the web log that those who may have the same views such as yours, get the answer.

      Respectable lady

      We respect all people of the world- including the American people. We think highly of all human’s life, dignity, reputation and also their properties. Our religion – Islam- does not allow us to disturb the peace and tranquility of human beings. Even those Iranian mothers who have lost their children due to American atrocities in Iran or those children, who their parents have been martyred, do not concur that the American people be immolated for the wrong-headedness and arrogance of their Statesmen. Even the Iranian girls and boys, who have lost all their family members in U.S. warship attack against Iranian passenger airplane in Persian Gulf, do not assent that Iran initiates any war. For eight years, we defended ourselves against all-out invasion of Saddam who was supported by the world powers. And any type of weaponry, intelligence and supplies that he needed was provided to him immediately. Our people were not even safe from Saddam’s chemical bombs. When the green light was given to Saddam by the big powers - including U.S. government - he tested the most lethal chemical weapons – produced in the west – on the innocent people of Iran.

      What benefit do you think Saddam and his masters in United States of America and some other countries drew from the imposition of the eight year war on Iran? Nothing! Even a square foot of our land was not kept occupied by Saddam’s forces. They could achieve none of their illegitimate goals and wills. Our youths with the strength of their faith, defended their own land and astonished the world.

      Dear sister

      Of course, we too hate war – as you do. Certainly, we are not panic-stricken of a defensive war, but we believe there are many diplomatic and peaceful ways and approaches to intercept paranoidal bullying and expansion policies and practices of U.S., Zionist usurper regime – the occupier of Palestine – and Britain. I assure you that Iran would not initiate any war! Unfortunately today, the entire world is somehow afoul of some hostile powers and politicians that are non-edified, power greed and warmongers. Consequently, thousands of innocent human lives are being lost every day and many mothers mourn their beloved children. The greed of the aforementioned politicians for wealth and power is unbounded. The atmosphere of threat and intimidation has made the life unpleasant and miserable for every human being of different nations. Unfortunately, you are not the only one who is tormented and aggrieved from the egoistic politicians with their egotistic mentality. Everyday in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and almost everywhere in the world, many fathers and mothers mourn their children and have become grief-stricken. Their outcry would not go beyond the high wall of powers - that based on wealth and weapons.

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
  • maof4brats
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      maof4brats [removed]  

    • Israel is ready for a fight, and they would be the first to strike with just the thought that this crazy man says he didn't believe in the Holocaust. Yes! he is crazy and take that in hand,but for him to point a nuke is just as crazy. The US will be the only goverment to use them. I feel that the whole Middle East and Iran who's not in the Middle East are crazy.Not the people but just the Goverment.

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  

    • Israel has the only nukes in the middle east and they have the fourth largest military in the world. They are a true terrorist nation funded by the US military and the Zio-lap dogs in Congress they don't need anyone's protection.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • imagine my strife being a liberal jew.
      all my politicians sound so good until it comes to israel.
      if i want to protect israel i have to vote for the guy who will screw over the us in the process.

    • 2 years ago
  • acontradiction
  • masterzip
  • maof4brats
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      maof4brats [removed]  
    • acontradiction:

      And you are the one showing all the hate.AC.Do you know how many Jews where taken in during WW2. Ask the Jews that live there! I bet they don't want Israelie bombs pointing at their country. And they consider themselves as Iranian -Jews meaning Iranian first!

    • 2 years ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  

    • Russia called for nuclear disarmament as well. My prediction: Ahmadinejad will screw everything up by calling for Israel's nuke facilities to be inspected by the IAEA or that they should sign the NPT.

    • 2 years ago
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