Community | October 01, 2009 | 41 comments

Villagers demand to eat stranded elephant

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The thought of a meat dinner sent a village into a frenzy on Monday, Locals who had not seen a piece of meat in months where preparing to kill and eat an elephant and a hippo which unfortunately for them were stuck in the mud caused by the drought.

“How can they try to rescue the animals while we have not fed on meat for months?” asked a resident.

Police dispersed the crowd with tear gas.

As the drought bites deeper people are becoming more desperate.

I have never eaten elephant, but I hear the trunk has the best meat.

Do you think the villagers should have been allowed to eat dumbo?
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  • Josphat_Gachie
  • jomamuka
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      jomamuka  
    • i wonder if any of the people saying that the villagers should just go ahead and eat the elephant would eat road kill. there is a reason why the rangers and police stopped people from eating the animal - its dangerous! no one here would eat meat that hadnt been inspected or at least bred and raised according to certain conditions so why throw caution to the wind just cos they are african?

      yes, they are hungry. yes, there is a drought and a lack of food and the harvest has been sub par. but eating bush meat would just compound the problem, not only would that village eat the meat but people from several other villages (remember, they dont have refrigerators and such and sharing is the norm so they would call other hungry friends and relatives to join in the feast) and then the local health officials would have a health crisis that they could ill afford considering they are already strapped for cash, man power and resources.

      strange thing is, should an article be posted here about people getting violently ill from eating a elephant/hippo/antelope/monkey/whatever the comments would be all "poor ignorant africans need to be educated" and "they should have known better" and "we shouldnt bother because they cant save themselves".

      it may seem cruel and unfathomable to prevent hungry people from eating what many here consider to be free meat. but the consequences of anthrax, ebola, rift valley fever, monkey pox and other diseases are far higher than what most people here seem to be able to fathom. maybe y'all should have considered why the police had to be called in to stop them from killing and dividing the animal instead of going "oh, those meanies!"

    • 2 years ago
  • EclecticBadger
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      EclecticBadger  
    • jomamuka:

      "no one here would eat meat that hadnt been inspected or at least bred and raised according to certain conditions"

      And yet cattle are still infected with hoof and mouth, bovine tuberculocis and BSE, and tens of throusands of people suffer the consequences of unhygienic civilised eateries and even those who manage to poison themselves with the BBQ or undercooked eggs.

      All of the virus and parasites you cite can be found in domesticated stock and is reason why so many abbatoirs have had to be closed down.

      We might not know how to properly and safely cook elephant, but I suspect that these villagers just might.

    • 2 years ago
  • jomamuka
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      jomamuka  
    • jomamuka:

      im kenyan and trust me when i say this is a public health issue rather than let the poor people eat to their fill kinda thing. had the villagers had their way and eaten the animal they would have been infected with god knows what and then it would become an issue of why they were allowed to have the elephant for dinner when the ramifications of eating bush meat are widely known. its better to nip this kind of thing in the bud. its very sad that the rains failed and the harvest was not as expected but eating a wild animal is not the solution. the possible dire outcomes would only compound the problem - not only would they get sick but they would be too malnourished to be able to fight off whatever disease they got and the health system in kenya is not known for its efficacy in these kinds of matters.

      as far as elephants go, its not the norm to have them as food. they have been protected for the longest time and are usually only killed by poachers who are interested in their tusks which are then spirited out of the country to cultures where ivory is a prized commodity.in these cases, the body is left intact minus the tusks cos even the poachers know better than to try and make a meal out of it. if anybody knew how to "properly and safely" cook an elephant chances are they were alive two generations ago.

      and no contest to your point about abbatoirs having to be shut down because of viruses, bacteria, parasites and whatnot. there will always be these instances cos the way the food chain is nothing is ever sterile. but my point is, they are shut down. once food has been deemed contaminated by e-coli and salmonella or whatever its pulled from the market to prevent it from spreading, causing a health crisis and generally f*cking up peoples lives. can you imagine the uproar if food that was deemed unsafe was distributed to food banks cos the hungry people have to eat? the suffering that would be caused to the families already stretched too thin having to think of ways to cover the cost of hospitalization and medication? the missed time from work and school? the finger pointing that would begin when people asked who was responsible for not stopping the crisis when tax dollars are supposed to prevent this sort of mishap?

      now imagine this scenario not in a developed country but in a developing one and then contemplate how quickly eating one elephant could quickly spiral out of control. im with whoever who got the cops to disperse the crowd. they would have had meat for a few meals but the known ramifications are more trouble than its worth.

    • 2 years ago
  • EclecticBadger
  • jomamuka
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      jomamuka  
    • jomamuka:

      me too. but there is a movement of kenyans (and africans) sick of governments whose main aim seems to be to enrich themselves, mismanage resources bleed the economy dry, force educated and knowledgable professionals to seek opportunity elsewhere and then turn to developed nations with begging bowl in hand. if you havent already, take some time to read "dead aid" by dambisa moyo - i may not agree with some of her solutions but the general consensus among many is that enough is enough. its not like the average citizen gets to benefit from the efforts of aid anyway, it usually makes things worse.

      the drought in kenya right now and how dire its become is partly nature taking its course and mostly the govt caught with its pants down cos it knew this was coming and didnt plan for it and also their dividing up precious ecosystems for their own gain

      http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=86340

      which is why reading how people have resorted to wanting to eat elephants and hippos makes me sad and pisses me off.

    • 2 years ago
  • coconutjackson
  • stupidy
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      stupidy  
    • jomamuka:

      I also agree, I posted this story as I thought it would highlight the very real problems happening now in East Africa, I have posted other stories about corruption and the drought facing Kenyans at this time to which no one has responded, I posted one about animals dying and got some responses. I thought this story would get a few more responses and help highlight the plight of the people in the region.
      Lack of rain, coupled with mismanagement and corruption have let to this situation. Jomamuka has provided an extremely articulate concise description of the current situation, and identified the pitfalls of taking the route of killing the wildlife.
      One of the main assets Africa has is it wildlife, having lived in DRCongo I have witnessed firsthand a country devoid of the big 5. No one goes to Congo to see animals. Kenya relies on tourist money, the post election violence in early 2008 severely damaged Kenya's tourist industry. This year they are reporting an increase in visitors. If we let the people eat the animals, who will come to see bones.
      Tourism is very important, Taxi drivers, carvers, artists, hoteliers, bars, shops etc all benefit from the tourist $$$'s. This money goes straight to the little people; you would be amazed how many people can be fed on $20 per week.
      The drought won’t last forever, but once the animals have gone they will have gone forever.
      We need to look at and change the causes, we can’t change the weather, but we can stop the destruction and theft of the Mau Forrest, and we can stand up to corruption and mismanagement.
      President Obama and his administration are busy trying to stop Kenyan politicians thinking it is their right to line their pockets at the expense of the Kenyan people and country, I pray for his success.
      There are many causes, there are more factors within when you start to scratch beneath the surface, it goes right to the top of government. It is the little people who suffer.

    • 2 years ago
  • capolia
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      capolia  
    • So many people are saying to make these starving ppl help these dying animals, what a stupid thing to say. How can they move a humongous animal (or in fact 2) when they have no energy supplies? Next time you are hungry (cos lts face it, starvation for us in the west is a much lower possibilty) we'll make all u guys resusitate a hamburger ( cos I'm guessin none of u makin these comments have ever had to kill your dinner). How riduculous is this debate? Let the hungry ppl eat, and the dying animals be put out of their misery.

    • 2 years ago
  • manny0409
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      manny0409  
    • hey...hungry people can do some crazy shit...if they're hungry then they have to eat its that simple. I bet they're dreaming of jumping on that hippo and elephant like a spider monkey!

    • 2 years ago
  • vesher
  • carmalite
  • biggranny
  • bobbabob
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      bobbabob  
    • starving people vs one less elephant..
      yeah
      starving people win
      and the hippo can also go
      there going to die stuck there in the mud anyway
      so why waste perfectly good food for a whole village?

    • 2 years ago
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
    • bobbabob:

      Doubling the size of a village is just going to mean MORE starving people next year....won't it?

      Where is there food coming from now?

      If they are starving now, what is going to change a year from now so that they won't be starving again?

    • 2 years ago
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
    • It wouldn’t do any good.

      Africa is a very, very harsh environment and can BARELY support a few thousand humans living a hunter/gatherer existence.

      Thanks to foreign aid and relief efforts we’ve allowed the population to explode.

      We’re entering into a realm where morality and physics are meeting head on. The land itself cannot support all those people. You can’t FARM the land because it’s rainforest….it’s not the same soil or weather conditions as Oklahoma!

      So we let them eat the elephant.

      They have the energy and strength to….have sex and make more kids.

      The environment (sad, but true) cannot support the population already living there so adding more humans only makes it worse.

      So….what should we do?

      If we "save them" all we've done is keep them alive and allow them to reproduce, which will only make the problem of food worse next year.

      There may be no good options for Africa in regards to water/food/starvation.

      Do we think things are going be better in Africa in 2025 or much, much worse if the population continues to double every year?

    • 2 years ago
  • RetroFlux
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      RetroFlux  
    • crob80227:

      crob80227 raises an interesting point in regards to saving them all.

      Whilst saving them now may perpetuate the problem I am of the belief that technology will one day solve this problem. Well, I hope it does as it's not like humanity as whole will be bothered enough to help their fellow man.

    • 2 years ago
  • Slersk
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      Slersk  
    • If it was going to die anyway without human intervention, then there is no problem with them killing it early, it will most likely die out in the bush in a few weeks anyway because there isn't enough food even for the animals.

    • 2 years ago
  • dredlockesq
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      dredlockesq  
    • They absolutely should be allowed to eat the elephant. It seems as if the elephant has little to no chance at survival, and these starving people should not have to go hungry. The elephant could possibly feed those people for days, which during a crisis time is a really big deal.

    • 2 years ago
  • timothybullion
  • RetroFlux
    • 0
      RetroFlux  
    • Let them eat it.

      People living their comfy little lives with a fricking Mcdonalds on every corner can't possibly comprehend poverty and starvation.

    • 2 years ago
  • jomamuka
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      jomamuka  
    • eating the elephant may seem like a good idea but what most are forgetting that it pretty much lives in the wild - had the police and the rangers stood back and let them feed from it a few days later it would be a scandal cos they would probably get sick from feasting on the bush meat. not to mention that elephants are protected animals in kenya and its illegal to kill them.

    • 2 years ago
  • Creative_Lee
  • James_Ranton
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      James_Ranton  
    • Creative_Lee:

      the needs of the many surpass the needs of the few. They should kill it and eat it. Why is this a debate, survival is a much more pressing concern than animal conservation. Sad, I know, but when it comes down to it, starving people beat elephant stuck in the mud.

    • 2 years ago
  • hlrob
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      hlrob  
    • Hate to say it but survival of the fittest... if it dies then they should eat it. Very disturbing that this community has reached this level of desperation. Very easy for people to argue to save it but then again, many people are lucky enough to be able to pop to the local supermarket for a snack on a porkpie or nibble on a pepperami before their steak and chips for dinner!

    • 2 years ago
  • frizzlecat
  • Mr_Ben
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      Mr_Ben  
    • If it dies then eat it, no point wasting food, unlike us who wastes mountains of food every year and are becoming more obese by the minute, who are we to tell starving people what they can and can't eat?

    • 2 years ago
  • AlbeeYap
  • coconutjackson
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      coconutjackson  
    • The elephant looks so skinny, its spine showing. It's unfortunate the police had to beat back people whose bones are also visible due to starvation.

    • 2 years ago
  • coconutjackson
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      coconutjackson  
    • awww!! that's a tough one. drought in kenya has resulted in 10million people starving and wild animals dying. i still blame the tragedy on poor governance,but really the rainy season did not come as expected, so another casualty of climate change and global warming.
      the people need food aid badly, eating elephants and hippos is a normal occurrence because of poverty, but who will save the elephants? (better to eat the hippo)

    • 2 years ago
  • javier_ramos
  • Jjjjason7
  • maof4brats
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      maof4brats [removed]  
    • I don't like the thought of eatting an elephant but if it should die then....Damm what a hard decision. If it can't be saved then put it down. At least this group has conflict with eatting the poor thing.

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • idealist
  • bombastinator
  • Naturechaplain
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      Naturechaplain  
    • With so much food on our plates (and in the garbage) this should not be happening. A small percent of the military budget of the industrialized nations could feed people anywhere there is drought and famine. Gorillas are being eaten, and now, it seems, elephants. Yet, in the short term, until we get these people decent food, I agree, it's tragic, but we cannot judge the acts of starvation to feed families.

    • 2 years ago
  • Abnormal
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      Abnormal  
    • From what I'm aware Elephant are endangered. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If you ask me the villages should be aloud to eat the elephant if it had died but killing the creature would most likely have got the villages in more trouble than good.

      If it had been me in their situation, rationality would come second and I would have killed and eaten the Elephant. Not point letting it go to waste.

    • 2 years ago
  • idealist
  • sangel217
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