Afghanistan: It's been 8 years - what's next?

US come home. We are through there unless the Taliban reseizes power. At that point we can knock them from it as we did in retaliation for their having harbored AQ.

We could completely close their borders, of course there is little profit in that particular strategy!

Bomb I don't know where this "Well since almost every major military analyst says that it usually takes at least 15 years to solve a conflict like this my guess is another 8" is coming from but if you are smart enough to understand that Bush was a liar and a fraud of a president you should be smart enough to understand that every general after Eisenhower is nothing more than a general MacArthur looking to make a name for himself while propping up a defunct military industrial complex dedicated to continuous conflict. Eisenhower won us the European theater in less than 4 years and if it had not been for MacArthur and his theatrics in the Pacific theater we would have been out of that much sooner. Point is that a World War was finished in 4 years because the generals where not playing fort and went out and confronted the enemy in strategically sound ways. All I have seen in this conflict is what I studied and heard from my father, a Marine in conflict through the worst years of the Vietnam war, lots of sending troops on foot to "Patrol" in enemy occupied territory and placement of bases in unfortified and unprotected valleys where the enemy can take the high ground and shoot our troops like fish in a barrel. Oh and one last thing I know you and those like you hate Islam and the people who practice it because you think or believe they will come all the way over here on the burrows I suppose and kill us all but risking our soldiers lives over your hyper-inflated fears is not justifiable. If you and the rest who think the Afghani people are a threat to you want to go and wage a war over there do it with your own money and risk your own lives don't ask others to go fight because you are afraid someone might try to hurt you or those you love some day ....that is called life, try learning to live with it.

Well since almost every major military analyst says that it usually takes at least 15 years to solve a conflict like this my guess is another 8.

We are still in this war Mainly because the President who started it in the first place couldn't find his own ass with both hands and GPS tracking. That does NOT mean that walking away, sitting in the corner, and pretending the problem will go away is the answer. Have the North Koreans gone away? That was a best case scenario too. The Koreans never talked in any meaningful way about trying to export their government, much less unilaterally and repetitively attempting it through violence.

Anybody seen that light at the end of the tunnel? Or maybe we need to reintroduce the domino theory, or how about this infamous remark.." in order to save the village, we had to destroy it" I spent 13 months in Vietnam and the one thing that became very clear to me was this, you cannot outlast people in their own country. the Romans couldn't do it, the Napoleon's Grand Armee couldn't do it, Hitlers Wehrmacht couldn't do it, the Soviet Union couldn't do it and we sure as Hell couldn't do it in Vietnam ...so why in God's name are we attempting to do it again? Are we as a nation that bone headed?...From what I've seen at these tea baggers cluster f**ks I guess the answer is yes we are. I would venture a guess that Al Qaida spent far less than a couple of million to pull off the twin tower strike...we've spent close to a trillion so far in response...our nation has bankrupted itself to what end? If his plan was to bring us down the way the soviet Union collapsed I'd say he is close to his goal. a few more years of this kind of monetary bleeding out and we'll be just a shadow of what we once were financially.

The Afgani people don't want us there. We have had our kids killed there and alot of civilians. This is just like Vietnam but the only thing different is this is for OIL!

Are we forever link to wars? for they support our economic engine. The end of one of these two wars will open the doors to an economic depression?

The point of Afghanistan to me was always the disruption of Al Qaeda in that country and around the world. By documented fact our espionage and law enforcement has done most of the work here not our military and they have been very successful at doing so. To paraphrase and intelligence source I read “Osama and his higher ups have no real operational capacity and exist now as just an ideological center for other terrorist groups around the world”. The whole argument at this point for staying in Afghanistan is to "Defeat" the Taliban. This is nothing more than a repeat of the false and costly assumptions we made in the Vietnam conflict.
That A: we would be able to find a sufficient number(mind you not even a majority just a sufficient number) of individuals willing to fight to the death, as is the real necessity of any successful soldier, for a cause against their own country men.
And B: that it is actually possible to defeat in any true since of the word a group large or small that is indigenous to that geographical location with out basically committing genocide and killing every man woman and child.
These are the same assumptions that led us to lose far to many in Vietnam, the only question here is will we learn from our past and let the Afghani people have what ever government they want and go back to the old way of running the world by imposing economic sanctions on these otherwise insignificant third worlds countries. Or are we going to keep letting these generals who are just making their name in this conflict keep lining up our men and women to be targets in under fortified and strategically vulnerable positions. Funny thing to me is the in bedded interviews we are getting from Afghanistan have the soldiers in them sounding more and more like Nam vets in their war ...hell they where even playing the same music "we gotta get out of this place. if it the last thing we ever do......" maybe we should take the soldiers and the songs advice.

Breaking news
We are now planing to invade yet another country - Iran - for which the war party and AIPAC have started fabricating all kinds of lies about non existing nukes. The same bloody way they started the Iraq war, which killed 1000,s of our brave soldiers.

Terrorists? WE are the terrorists. If your still free start running away, cause were comin' for ya!

Right, eight years and 0 doesn't have a plan?
Where hell has this dim bulb been?
What the hell was he doing while he was in the senate?
So, while he stood in the well of th house and lied to us, soldiers have been dying in Afghanistan.

0bama lied, Soldiers died.
0bama lies, Americans die.

What's next?! What, you mean we're not going to end this war immediately, bring the troops home, focus on defense, forget about juvenile revenge, stop killing and dying and actually try to strive for PEACE instead??!!??!! If these things aren't starting to happen right now,... then this war will be even longer-lasting and even more devastating. At least until our next self-righteous venture.

I'm guessing the next move will be for Current to be infested with people whining and complaining about how long we've been there, and then screaming until they're blue in the face about how we must withdraw and focus on wiping all of the "underprivileged" asses in our own country.

Can't wait.

Oh, and our surrounding of Iran is becoming an interesting situation for they are proliferating atomic energy while us and the U.N. request for them not to. How long will it be before we engage and perform operations within their borders, or at least in the Southern AfPac region are being carried out?

The president will commit more ground forces to the AfPac situation and it may not be 40,000 but a middle way of 25,000 I'm thinking because this war is a right one and it's not over so, we need to finish what we started, which is to; stabilize the region and develop trust with Pakistan for addressing all hostile forces on either side of the border while not arousing their nuclear capability.

Now we send in all of our environmentalists and liberals and have them bake the Taliban and AlQaeda chocolate chip cookies and give them foot massages by the camp fire.

time to leave Eurasia and head for Asia[China/Korea]

I hope everyone knows that these wars were designed from the beginning to never end. 'They' are fighting a war on terrorism, which is not a specific group of people. It can be anyone at any time, in any place.. and yes that means you. War is a business and military contractors reap the rewards.

I love, when a bunch of white men sit around a table and decide how the lives of some diametrically different people should be shape 10K miles away. Cant they learn from History?
Cant they understand that the more they bomb, the more polarized the opinion will be, the farther from a solution they will be?