Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace prize

The Nobel Prize committee has nothing to do with the nominations. I think you know very little or nothing at all about the Nobel Prizes and how people get nominated.

hmmmm did i say that the nobel prize committee had anything to do with the nominations?? nope i didn't say anything of the sort.
Bush and Blair where put forward for nominations a few years ago or so i heard, but yes you are right, i know very little about the Nobel prizes and how people get nominated and thats because I dont actually care about it, anyone with half a brain can see it's all a joke when you look at past winners (and nominee's) and it's only the media who thinks we should take it so seriously

plus Henry Kissinger has won it too, the man who once said something along the lines of "all men are pawns to be used in our games"
It shouldnt be called the Nobel peace prize it should be called the Nobel 'Tried for peace but failed miserably like everyone else before me' prize.
There is no real genuine peace anywhere on this world, and that is the way it will continue if we dont stop the corporations and governments, and if we continue to believe crap awards like this!

welll... yes. he didnt deserve it, because he hasnt actually done anythign yet. did you hear the reaction when nobel anounced the winner? the people there were gutted and probably wondering what the hell was going on.

He invented dynamite for use in blasting away rock from areas where architecture, like bridges and other construction, were to be built. It was supposed to be a safer alternative to existing techniques, which saw many unnecessary deaths. He called it "Nobel's Safety Powder" in comparison to that. He wanted to SAVE lives. He did not invent it for death and war, you foolish person, and he was in fact utterly dismayed when he learned what it was being used for. It was much like Einstein and the A-bomb. Both persons in question performed research and invention with the best of intentions, but it was other people who distorted these good intentions into bad things.

Erm, Nobel is not just like Einstein. I'm not saying he was a warmonger, but he was most definitely into arms.
Much of his family's wealth before him, and even his own, came from arms. His father's fortune came largely from supplying naval mines to the Russian military during the Crimean war. In 1852 Alfred joined this family business - which was booming due to the war. The fortunes made during this time allowed him the freedom and money to devote to nitroglycerine research.
Nobel invented ballistite (smokeless powder) not for mining or construction, but for ammunition. The learnings from non-weaponized explosives were at the root of it, but ballistite was created and sold as a weapon. Nobel himself called the "crowning glory" of his career. He offered it to the french military, but eventually sold it to the Italian military. This was largely seen as treason (he lived in France at the time), which is why he moved to Italy.
Nobel himself bought Bofors AB and personally reshaped it from an ironworks company into a modern cannon manufacturer which would later become one of the largest arms manufacturers of the time. He was naive to believe that his invention of dynamite would end all wars due to its destructive power. Alfred told Bertha von Suttner, an advocate for world peace that:
"My factories may make an end of war sooner than your congresses. The day when two army corps can annihilate each other in one second, all civilized nations, it is to be hoped, will recoil from war and discharge their troops."
Even so it was not until a french newspaper on the death of his brother had mistakenly wrote his obituary calling him "The Merchant of Death" that he decided to set up the Nobel Prizes and bequeath his fortune to fund them.

because rationality works the night shift, and americans have 9-5 jobs.

but a few of us stay up late, watch the daily show and stuff, and we're around when rationality clocks in for work...

its a horrible cycle

lol ... dead on

Are you talking about Bush or Obama? Obama is still mopping up the mess that Bushy left. It's not like he's flying solo on all of this.

my thoughts exactly

Head over to freerepublic.com, it's a goldmine of outrage, hate and ignorance.

"obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for being a muslim collaborator (worse than a muslim shill)!!!! Instead of the Peace Prize, he should have had dung smeared on his face for his lowlife collaboration with Muhammadan would-be world conquerers!!"

dude your a moron, writing in caps dosent make you louder, disliking one thing dosent make you like another, your thinking how they want you to, black-white, right-wrong.. he dosent deserve this because he has not done anything for peace!

guy above me got mad over all caps.

lawl.

and he is the rational one.

Lol, I saw that, too. Who gives a fuck about CAPS, anymore. Oh, and it SO DOES MAKE YOU LOUDER, MORON. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE USE CAPS... TO BE LOOOOUUUDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRR......... IT WORKS, TOO, I FEEL LOUDER RIGHT NOW. MY EARS HURT!! Oh, it's all quiet, now....

All-caps is painful to the eyes and much harder to read than normal writing. Writing in all-caps is a sign of disrespect for others, a sign of yelling.

Erm, surely that kind of goes against the idea of a 'peace' prize?

saddly...

agreed...

it doesnt really mean too much besides a check and some recognition.

But he hasn't done that.

"his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples."

the word extraordinary wouldnt be in there if it wasn't for bush effing up foreign relations.

Iraq? Afghanistan?

yeah.. whats your point? he is working on it right now.

what about foreign relations in general? gaining support of other countries for our efforts and strengthening ties between old allies that were beginning to think we were off our rocker, that's what he has been fixing, diplomatically, meeting with foreign leaders bush would never have met with.

just because the war isn't over, doesn't mean he hasn't done nothing to deserve recognition. The meetings and talks he has been doing to try and strengthen our international relations with our enemies is something that i think bush would have never agreed too and was a huge mistake on his part, that obama is now mending.

if you mean by working on it that he is increasing the number of troops thus intensifying the conflict, and by going back on when he wanted to pull out of Iraq, then he is doing a fine job. But his administration certainly did not handle the G20 protesters well with POLICE BRUTALITY

ok kool, i agree with you. but thats besides the point of this award and what i said.

on what he is doing in afghanistan, i dont really agree with it, but he is working on it, and im sure he understand the situation better than most common people in america can.

on iraq:
"Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end," Obama said in a speech at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. (but if this isnt accurate and he announced something i missed let me know)

im ok with that. as long as it happens... if 2010 comes around and august passes by and i dont read or hear anything about all the soldiers reuniting at home.. me and you can be best friends.

but for now i believe the guy.

Agree with 'samthesixth' what has e cleaned up?

foreign relations.

our president has been recognized by the nobel peace peoples for efforts in diplomacy (is how i read it)... i would think you would be a bit proud of it. the prize isn't for his policies but for his action in dealing with the global community and treating people around the world like people.

Gitmo? Trying in Afghanistan and Iraq? Come on. That's all you have?

obama has issued executive orders to close gitmo but congress is throwing a hissy fit over where to put the detainees. so untill then, its gonna be a few detainees at a time leaving, as it has been for the past few months. until congress gets their shit together.

besides your focusing on the actions of others, when the nobel commitee only considers the actions of the person.
he didnt sign gitmo into existence, he didnt approve waterboarding(as well as the other torture shits). what he did do is talk... with his enemies... something bush didn't do. and this is why they think he is a pretty kool guy and deserves the award.

and obviously no matter what i say you wont agree with me. so why keep replying. i understand your point, but it hasn't to do with why they awarded him the prize.