2012 isn't the end of the world, Mayans insist

Just a side note Y2K was a man made real threat and not a religious hyped phrophecy for end of days. Some groups did jump on it as doomsday scenario since a nuclear accident was a real possiblity. It was only averted by hours and hours of programming revisions and lots of co-operation by unlikely sources that kept the predictions from coming true.

scary shit

I'm not worried about 2012, we're all already dead.

Y2K killed us all, remember?

Remember Y2K? Wasn't the world supposed to end in 2000?

yes! the moment i saw this was actually the turning point of my life. now i can start worrying about more important things like the bills.

I just took a tour of Chichanitza. They told us the Mayan calender is more like a clock, and it's about to hit midnight.

Calender doesn't "end", it starts over again.

Every whacko and crackpot and even quite a few "sane" people are always seeing the end of the world in this event or that one. I'd swear to God they have a death wish and are dissapointed when the world doesn't explode into trillion pieces.

Second, we are ALL going to die eventually. We will each face our own private end of the world, so why the big hurry?

Silly world.....there's more life to live.

I'm just looking forward to destruction in 2012 the movie.

2012 is the New Y2K!

Many people will make money on selling this idea, then when its over, the conspiracy groups will move on to the next item of importance!

Nothing is going to happen except a cool astronomical alignment. The really neat thing is how the Maya's acquired all of their vast knowledge in the first place back then, and how did they loose it!

The only thing that is going to change in 2012 is we are going to realize that we are getting the same hype we got when the sky was falling on Y2K. Remember that?

Every turn of the Centuries has brought its share of Apocalyptic visions.

We, as a species, tend to create self-fulfilling prophecies that have a cyclical nature. They repeat.

There is an extreme Archaeologist in China, a Dr. Lee who states that humanity has had 83 different times it has risen and fallen to where there were millions, even billions of people and then populations reduced considerably due to natural disasters of various sorts including meteors, ice ages, climate change, and disease over the past 2 million years or more.

Many myths have survived the ages, myths that used to contain astronomical knowledge that was passed down. Knowledge like the precession of the equinoxes.

Unfortunately about 2012 is that for most people its going to be a big fat disappointment.

On another note though, IMHO if humanity gets that disappointment that "a force bigger than ourselves is going to make things REALLY change here on planet earth" my hope is that that disappointment will lead to the revolution we so desperately need. People will have reached the point where they are dumb ass tired of being lied to and manipulated for corporate profits and that they will unite around vanquishing the common enemy, the slave wage system and the non ownership society. No more class distinctions, no more stratification.

there are still mayans around?

I predict ...

Let it be known, In the year 5,000,002,012 the Sun will turn into a red giant and boil off the oceans before engulfing us and the other inner planets.

All that will be left of us is the Voyager spacecraft.

Yet we will be reborn in one of the infinite parallel universes, just given random chance. Perhaps we'll find Voyager on the other side and puzzle about where it came from.

Enjoy your college days because it will feel like the end of the world when you're out.

I hope the only thing that ends on 2012 is my college days...geez Im fed up with it already.

It's important to note that the calendar doesn't actually doesn't end. It starts a new baktun. The calendar continues.

There's no doubt that date could not signal the end of the world. The Earth will survive until its star Sol becomes a red dwarf then increases in size to envelop the inner planets until it finally novas. If you mean the world of humans the odds of being obliterated by some other cosmic event are much more likely. People have speculated that date might precipitate world wide earthquakes because the earth's poles might abruptly shift. The poles location depend on the magnetosphere. There's been a 10 % drop in this natural shield against deadly cosmic radiation which has occurred. (If it ever even temporarily drops altogether there could be a flood of lethal cosmic radiation that could penetrate earth's atmosphere and into the bodies of humans and other living organisms.) And there's a huge magnetic anomaly existing under the Atlantic ocean off
the coast of Brazil which has been noted. Earth's magnetic poles' radical shifting has happened before, but not during the time of modern recorded history. Alaska was once at the equator. The speculation is that since the radical abrupt shifting is long overdue, some gravitational anomaly might occur with a cosmic conjunction that might trigger it. And if it does, no one knows what effect that might have on the tectonic plates. Earthquakes might occur along fault lines worldwide and simultaneously, overwhelming insurance companies and perhaps even governments. It's as yet.uncharted territory. No doubt you've seen or at least heard of the summer hit movie The Core which came out several years ago. Because the core of the earth is moving and has nickle iron in it, it generates a magnetic field which keeps the oxygen atmosphere of the Earth from bleeding away into space. Mars was once a living planet like Earth which had liquid water, but it died when its magnetosphere failed. In the Nat Geo documentary on the magnetosphere a scientist theorized that there's a nuclear reaction in the Earth's core on a harmonic with the Sun's nuclear furnace. And that the sunspot activity may have some effect on the core and its magnetosphere also. All these factors look like alphabet soup to me. Anyone can draw some inference but nothing is conclusive. It would do no good to worry about it anyway. "The skane of your life was woven long before you were born. Worry about it if you wish, but you will not live even one moment longer than you're supposed to." The future's not promised to anyone or anything, realisticly. We simply survive, living day by day, for as long as we or something else maintains our foundation for life. By now we know that if some cosmic meteor the size of a mountain happened to strike the earth, there's little if not jack shit we could ever do to avert a nuclear winter. The mayans observed & recorded time on the basis of cosmic cycles because they thought long term, and they knew the planets and stars moved in regular, measurable cycles like the gears of a clock that could be predicted. As the Japanese submariner said when he looked up at the naked hot blond clinging to the periscope, in the movie 1941: " HARRYROOD ! "

Actual Facts on The Supreme Number 9 (Born)
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In Mathematics, The Number 9 is considered Born because it simbolizes the completion of a thing. All things are brought into existence or Born into reality according to The Supreme 9 in Our Universe. These are just a few of the important things we can relate to when dealing with The Supreme Number 9 in Our Universe.

There are 9 planets in Our "outer" solar system:

1. Mercury
2. Venus
3. Earth
4. Mars
5. Jupiter
6. Saturn
7. Uranus
8. Neptune
9. Plutoon or Pluto

There are 9 systems in the human body:

1. Skeletal - Bones
2. Muscular - Muscles
3. Nervous - Nerves
4. Circulatory - Blood Supply
5. Endocrine - Glandular Organs
6. Excretory - Organs of Elimination
7. Respiratory - Lungs
8. Digestive - Stomach & Intestines
9. Reproductive - Reproducing

There are 9 main Endocrine Glands in the male/female system:

1. Pituitary - located at the base of the brain.
2. Hypothalmus - located in the forebrain/connected to the Pituitary.
3. Pineal - located in the middle of the brain.
4. Thyroid - located in the throat.
5. Thymus - located in the lower chest/upper neck.
6. Pancreas - located at the rear of abdomen.
7. Ovaries - located in the abdomen of women.
8. Testicles - located at the scrotum of men.
9 Adrenals - located at the upper end of each kidney around the spine-base.

Man has 9 original senses:

1. see - observing with the two physical eyes.
2. Touch - to feel with the two physical hands.
3. Taste - using the sensors on the tongue to know and understand taste.
4. Smell - breathing in thru the nostrils to know and understand smell.
5. Hear - using the two physical ears to listen and understand sound waves.
6. Telepathy - channelling the mind to give and recieve information in the form of thought waves.
7. Intuition - the act of knowing and seeing something before it transpires.
8. Clairivoyance - the ability to speak with those who have departed from the physical realm of existence.
9. Telekinesis - the act of moving physical objects by focus of mind.

The Mayans mastered all of these Systems and this gave them the ability to see into Future.

It might mean the end of this world. But to is taken out of context.

The end of this world really only means One World going out and a New World coming in. We're leaving the Age of Pisces and entering the Age of Aquarius. No one can deny that. In the process of the Universe assisting the Earth in helping it cleans itself from all toxic parasites, many of us will die.

When a woman goes into labor at 9 months, she endures great pain in the process of giving birth to her new child. After(birth) the cycle of life starts over(1-0-) We're all made up from the same molecules, matter and rhythm that the Earth is. Our make up consist of 75% water just like the Earth does.That Messiah that the World is waiting on is embedded in the DNA of all of us. That's the beauty of the Spiritual path.WE'RE ALL EQUAL.It's not just One Christ. It is the Body of Christ, and this doesn't have a damn thing to do with Religion. We are all Baby Gods. The Sun IS THE Son of God. We have 9 major organs that are given Spiritual energy from our Solar plexus,just like the 9 planets that revolve around the Sun. This is basic knowledge for anybody that wants to understand the meaning of our Chakra systems.

Politely said,.." Mother Nature is entering into a very violent labor of cleansing preparing this house for the Birth to a New Child, a New World, and a New Kingdom on Earth as it is in Heaven . Be at Peace with that because there is no escaping Justice.. The Mayans just couldn't see beyond 2012 just like Moses couldn't see the Promise Land.

Na... we're all doomed.

This is the first that I've read they Mayans said the world was ending in 2012. The information that I read a few years ago was more that their calendar reset /start over on that day and so some theorized that meant doomsday to mankind. The resets indicated the end of one world phase and beginning of the next. The last reset has been set at August 3114 BC and runs to the first day of winter 12-21-12 since each long count of their calendar is 5,125 years long. So if 3114 was their beginning of current state mankind then many think 2012 would be the end of current state of mankind indicating some type of transformation of man not necessarily annhilation.

I'm not sure if any specific religions were meant above when posters referenced them since there are many vary different religions out there, but from I know of most Christian sects (there is widespread differences among them), but the majority believe they have God's promise by the way of the rainbow that he would never destroy the earth again. Their Bible book of Revelations describes the destruction of a wicked system of things (false religions, corrpupt governments and dishonest merchants) and seems to reference only a minority of mankind being able to survive this time of judging since they would be supportive of the respective human governments and not recognize God as rightful ruler. Therefore it can't be said Christians believe this to be the "end of mankind" but rather a change in phase of mankind which leads many to think the two beliefs co-incide on 12-21-12 with many Christians to look to this time period as one to be on the watch but they know from other Bible books that no one was given the day or hour but rather prophecies that point to that time period..

Interesting that the interpretation of this Mayan elder isn't at all in line with what the mass media feeds us regarding 2012. People definitely have over active imaginations and an inability to separate entertainment from reality. Nevertheless, I suppose many are just looking to cash in on the "2012 prophecies" before they pass.

I'm fed up with this stuff too, comon sense tells you, after the constant bombardment, you are still able to face whatever reality you choose, to be able to enlighten your situation. Nobody is telling you to beleive it, We're just telling you to wake up and see it for what it is, which is change, and what kind do you want. Time and time again , here, you will read , what's ahead ,unless this happen, .this is where it is. End cycle, nothing left, dead planet. Ruination, extinction, end of story. For everyone of those attitudes there's 2 more to light the other side. Most of them are right here in front of you. And more importantly, the kind of attitude we need is one of ,enough of this kind of talk. climate change is what it is, and yes change how we damage and further it. The world isn't going to end, but it will go thru some changes, so will we WE know what needs to be done and yes ,it will be done, because that's what THIS whole thing is about, conscious awareness,conscious choice, creation thru communication, so leave the man alone, dream your own dream, and for God sake be smart about it.

I can't believe people are worried about the end of the world.

Yeah well just in case, I still plan on having a massive end-of-the-world party on Dec. 20, 2012

just to clarify; the wobble doesn't just happen in 2012, it happens all the time. it is part of our 3 axis of rotation, it just takes 25,000 years to complete that small circle. it is why the north star changes after a time and back.
live everyday like it's your last, then you will have nothing to fear and you will never be embarrassed again.

Well if the Mayans Say it's not the END. then I'm not going to Argue with them. Them folks have been around a long time. So they should know what they are Talking about. They had a lot going on long before any other group of people. Even knew the earth was round long before any one else.

It easy to tell the bad show from the good ones on the History and Discovery channels. Unfortunately, the questionable stuff gets good ratings.

I've already lived through a few of the "end of the world" dates. The only thing that worries me are nutcases fulfilling this stuff because they believe in it so much.

We have enough people in high positions in the US that think we're in the times of Rapture.

The 2012 stuff really gets on my nerves. They probably just got lazy and stopped on that date. I would, too.

its kind of disappointing when you see the history channel programs really mess with people, creates problems. people are naive and malleable. even i have really fallen into believing some of the theory shit they have on there.

yeah im happy the world is not ending, but more happy to be able to send conspiracy theory stoners to this article so they shut up about this

i feel fine.

lol now the Mayans are just toying with the Christians...

Though i do not believe the world and universe will end in existence 12-21-2012, i would still like for the religious followers that are so fixated on their 'End of Days' concept to actually believe 12-21-2012 to be the Apocalypse. They should look forward to their day Judgment if they have been true followers. So when 12-21-2012 comes and nothing happens, (as in no savior comes to take his followers to a better place) and everyone is wrong about it being the end of days, then we all make the decision as a whole to let go of the idea that 'the end is near' and that we dont continue carrying waiting for it. This would develop the understanding that we will be living together for quite sometime regardless of differences we create and place on each other. We only have this planet to live on, and humans may all die at one point, but that being done on 12-21-2012 will most likely be done through our own means rather then some super-natural occurrence. So even if humans all disappear, this planet, and all the others that make up this galaxy, and the rest of the universe will carry on in existence.

12-21-2012 will be the Apocalypse, but that word in Greek means end of times/age; also day of enlightment. We are at the end of the Pisces Age, but there is still the Aquarius coming. Pisces is represented by two fish, and its attributes are displayed in various ways through this age we have gone through. One way is the way we face 'dualities'; such as religion vs science, love vs hate, masculine vs feminine, spiritual vs physical (Cartesian Dualism--1641). Thesis vs Antithesis. The age begins with one fish- Christ (which many have seen the fish sign that is meant to represent Jesus Christ), and as we all know, the age ends with the Anti-Christ. As we go into the age of Aquarius, the pitcher of water is dumped to allow the fish to swim together. It can be evident through the use of the internet and the rapid rate of communication that we are able to discuss our perspectives and differences, leading to compromises and understandings. Western Science can only get so far before trying to understand placebos and holistic healing of ancient eastern spiritual teachings. A balance is being found as we continue on. This is not to say that on 12-21-2012 peace will come about, and all issues and differences will be laid to rest. It is just the marking point of the true start into an age of enlightenment.

I have gather these ideas from studying works from Carl G. Jung (more so on his approach of 'synchronicity'), mythology and its connection to the zodiacs and astrology. I have pieced it together and through reasoning came to these conclusions. I am very optimistic of the the time after 12-21-2012, but wont be getting my hopes up for much to occur on the day.

Honestly, the calendar restarts after 2012. It's the end of an era or season and the beginning of something new, but not the end of the world lol

2012 hysteria is a complete waste of time, just like every previous so-called end of the world. The world will not end, and stupid humans will have to deal with the mess they have made out of everything.

Ya its definitely not the end of the world. But what is interesting is the celestial alignment that's going to happen on that date.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Earth, our moon, the Sun and center of the galaxy will be aligned. That's what starts the new age for the Mayans because it only happens once every 25,800 years since the solar system kind of "wobbles" back and forth while rotating around the center of the galaxy.

Some have said the poles could shift because of the wobble, as they have done in the past. But I don't know if that would really happen or even matter. Certainly won't end our civilization though.

It be the end of something. I can think of a few.....

gotta love us americans and those that spew that end of the world stuff we propagate.

thanks news media for insisting the end is just around the bend so we watch your shows.

A friend of mine the other day gave the greatest answer to the 2012 date. "Maybe the guys who were carving or chiseling the Mayan calendar just got tired and said hey boss we are all the way up to 2012 can we quit now?"

...........whew! (take -slow -deep -breath)

P.S." tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House"-----waaaaaay kewl, since I apparently will still be around, I will go see THAT show!