US facing massive economic ‘power shift’ with dollar’s downward spiral

I have never questioned your motives to improve the US. President Bush was working really hard against you... with his constant preaching against isolationism and protectionism to keep the Halliburton money flowing into his & Cheney's pockets. Meantime while they were grabbing all the loot they could the Chinese were painting Lead paint on toys and likely including other garbage in the packaging being shipped here.

I hope you and your brothers didn't do all that for them.

The "key" to which engine systems should get used is implementation time. You're suggesting lots of modifications and that would eat up the clock. Then there's another consideration of how complicated the system is because in one car crash a complicated (many-faceted) system might cost half the cost of a new car to repair.

Which means the insurance adjusters would be marking crashed cars as a total loss instead of a fixer-keeper, which would cause many extra vehicles to be filling the nation's landfills... OR being sent to the car crushers and systems like they have down here at Montvale Virginia where the machine chops em up to get the metals.

Chopping up cars represents a very large -and excessive- carbon footprint that would partially defeat the savings your systems would present. Wetdog, you have to look at the total picture. It doesn't make me at all happy to tell you your system will likely not win the "race".

I have an engine that's really designed more like a turbocharger. It combines compressed liquid air under great pressure supplied by the swinging inertia weight of the moving vehicle, so my system makes its own fuel as it drives down the highway, and yet T. Boone Pickens is even going to knock my system to the side along with YOURS.

Them's just the facts. My engine brings superheated steam mist -H2O- into the cylinder first which prevents the supercold air from freezing the piston to the inside wall of the cylinder PLUS the steam acts as a powerful CATALYST that makes the air do much more than just expand it makes the air EXPLODE with a power that goes even beyond methane.

With my system no one ever has to pull up to a fuel pump again. My engine the air and water both circulate around each in its own cycle except for when they meet in the cylinder, then they separate into their own circle again, the now-cold water cooling the compressors and then on to the engine and a heated conduit to be made into steam all over again.

My system has absolutely no exhaust, so it has much more Power from the weight reduction => no heavy exhaust, tailpipes, no poisonous catalytic converter metals entering the atmosphere and later the landfills. My system would be totally self-adjusting of the steam temperature so that it never needs a cooling system (no poisonous antifreeze).

And Pickens takes the game ball home.
My tornado-level engine stays holstered.

However, that being said the farms do over-produce methane and methane is a greenhouse gas we have too much of, so there should be by all rights a place for your ideas, but you see, Mr. Pickens has gas on the brain and Obama is surrounded and walled in by Energy Czar Chu As a military man you should be able to realize when you have been out-maneuvered by the industrialist, which is what usually happens in the US..

http://www.newpath4.com/roadmaptoanofuelrequiredtype1civilizationzeropollutionep...

I think so too---oil and drugs(Afghanistan).

I don't see any reason for us not to replace oil right now.

We can start by mandating that all new vehicles sold in the US be bi-fuel(liquid and methane) and either flex fuel(so they can use ethanol) or diesel.

We can do that right now, with no new technology that has not been in use many years, and will not involve large shifts in manufacturing or supply.

And, in the long run, as consumers, it will MORE than pay for itself and save us a ton of $$$ in the long run. Natural gas is much cheaper to use per BTU than either petroleum or electricity.

You sell a good-sounding package Wetdog, all that methane from farms getting used as fuel. I'm good with that. But you keep piling on more fuels and I don't understand why you do that because methane is gobs of power, and plenty of hog farms to supply it.

So why do you add ethanol for? Food crops are needed for FOOD. If you want the energy from the food crops why not open a nationwide chain of fat surgery clinics and harvest the fat off fat people's waistlines? Are you unaware of the fact that HUMAN FAT is the highest btu fat of any animal on Earth?

Let people have the food then make your biodiesel from harvested human fat. If you can't agree to that you're telling on yourself. Someone's paying you a check to make these posts. In the meantime when your 15 fuel dang blasted vehicle is in a CAR CRASH how much will it cost to repair all those busted systems you keep plugging?

This is where my enginewow.htm system walks all over yours LOWER REPAIR COSTS, and T. Boone Pickens is right behind although I personally would have difficulty driving a tractor-trailer knowing I was sitting perched over two 500 gallons tanks of NATURAL GAS. You want to build a spacecraft for the highways and make more mechanic jobs and body repair shop jobs and insurance adjuster jobs, not just engines, which means your scrapping blood on the floor trying to hold mankind back from entering into being a TYPE 1 CIVILIZATION.

You'll get no argument from me. I'll add that the media is falling all over themselves to help to preserve the status quo, being the propaganda division of the corporations of which they are all subsidiaries.
Why would they kill the goose that laid the golden egg?

That has no pride as much as my post has no sarcasm.

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What the hell are you ever talking about?

Lol jammer, at least you can dish it back. I like that.

The fun people are the ones that can do that. No need to put your tail between your legs. ha

THE WORLD IS STUPID.

Don't choke on your own pride.

Jammer.... Where is pride in my comment? I am ashamed of my fellow americans. I have never "subscribed" to the bullshit they hand out. And what do you really know about the rest of the world? You watch al-jazeera or do you just believe what fox , cbs, nbc, abc, msnbc, cnn, bbc tells you they talk about "over there"?

The USA population has got to be the stupidest specimens on the planet. What helps keep this going is that they think they are so fricking "informed".

That you think you're informed more so than most. That's pretty prideful.

And the entire world is stupid. There's no two ways around that, but nice try.

Ya know something Jammer? Sometimes there is one guy who is right and the whole rest of the world seems wrong. I would think that guy has every right to be proud.

You sound like a mother... "I guess you think you are right and the whole wide world is wrong"..... Yeah mom that's exactly what I think. STILL.

Oh and you wondered why I said PRIDE.

Apparently your uptake is slow.

That's all true Wetdog but you're missing a lot in your answers. Yes, all that modification COULD BE DONE but look at the cost of individual modifications of every type of engine. I'm no friend of T. Boone Pickens because his answers keep getting in the way of mine. He insists we have to have a "bridge system" to get us from where we are today to where we want to be in the future.

My engines are the future no need for his bridge technologies nor your expensive modifications. However, his answer grasps and supplies a romantic solution the Public has already been sold on => the Clunker kill everything and start over solution. The synaptic pathways have been scored (engraved) into his answer being the answer.

He did a checkmate on us of all checkmates in history. Your solutions and mine don't supply his romantic psychology application. His does. You're toast and so am I. T. Boone owns the court and it's also his ball. The old dog beats the pants off the wet dog. He's smarter. He's a marketing genius, we aren't.

End of Story. Game Ball Pickens.

Still don't believe me eh? hahaha OK, here's why. His implementation is less painful, faster, less costly, AND romantic. You may as well be struggling in the La Brea tar pits. I applaud your tenacity Wetdog but the game whistle blows soon and we lost => Pickens already had a private conference with the Obama.

Time to pack it up and hit the showers. We've been royally trounced. Old dog walked over two younger dogs.

We would have more success against the Marlboro Man in 1957.

Exactly. replace petroleum 100%. But when you replace petroleum and keep combustion engines you're still using inefficient combustion engines. You've made them more efficient by using a different fuel but the engine design is still inefficient. in other words, by changing to a better fuel you have only made an artificial improvement.

Combustion engines produce too much Heat, and the reason they produce too much Heat is because Heat produced that isn't used is evidence of engine inefficiency.

Now if you was to suggest changing fuel PLUS using the Pantone GEET engine process then you'd have a use for the excess Heat and no one would oppose you... because there wouldn't be any unused energy off your engine system. You would in fact have a nearly 100% engine efficiency.

Mine goes much higher but I realize now that's too difficult a concept for a biphenyl poisoned American to deal with right now. Marry your fuel with the Pantone engine.

btw, T. Boone Pickens today suggested a Clunker program to replace every diesel tractor in American with a new truck burning natural gas. It is to reduce the foreign oil imports by 50% in the near future I heard.

I read about this proposal today. Interesting.

It's good to see youve come to your senses 6382 Move along.

Yeah, who knew. And they're democracies yet. Real ones with parliaments.

I'll do the match burning project in PhotoShop for you plus make the animation for 10,000 Ameros, which should hmm amazingly be close to $10,000 also.

Agreed.

I still don't see why we can't do solar cars right now.

You could have your solar car very easily. You need 5 big solar panels that opens up, unfolds to drop on the hood, trunk and both sides, recharging the batteries while you're inside shopping or other wise parked.

I fail to see the problem here. Instead of folding out have them slide out and lower down, easier to put back together when you come back. Folding would be a real pain. Go! Make plenty of brand new Ameros! www.inventnow.org is waiting for you right now.

I hope you are proven correct for all of our sake.

Can you say Weimar republic?

Woah woah woah, I didn't mean to say that it's flipping fantastic that we are experiencing some inflation. I only meant to give a more optimistic view on the issue. Which is something I rarely do.

Perhaps not but....

"Chinese financial sources believe President Barack Obama is too busy fixing the US economy to concentrate on the extraordinary implications of the transition from the dollar in nine years' time. The current deadline for the currency transition is 2018."

It seems like China is pretty determined and they have the economic clout in the world today, while the US does not.

You honestly think that a totalitarian police state has more clout than the US? I know that US credibility took a hit under Bush. However, you have to be out of your mind if you believe China has more international credibility.

No. I didn't say anything about credibility. I said 'economic clout' and 'determined', which is irrefutable. The numbers are what they are.

US
2007 Q1-1.40 Q2-1.90 Q3-2.70 Q4-2.50 AVERAGE-2.13

2008 Q1-2.00 Q2-1.60 Q3-0.00 Q4-1.90 AVERAGE-0.43

China

2007
Q1-13.00 Q2-12.60 Q3-11.50 Q4-11.20
AVERAGE-12.08
2008 Q1-10.60 Q2-10.10 Q3-9.00 Q4 6.80 AVERAGE-9.13

China is indeed going to be a long term problem for the US if their economic growth continues at the current rate. China is however somewhat dependant on the US for their economic growth.

1) US companies account for a significant percentage Chinese manufacturing.
2) China is heavily dependent on the US importing their products.

2018 is a long time away and the US citizens will eventually wake up to the destructive relationship our government and corporations have with China. If China begins to pose a significant threat to US business, we have the power to put a halt to their economic growth. The government can impose restrictions on how much outsourcing can be done in China. They may also impose regulations over domestic companies like Wal Mart that have become a market for cheep Chinese crap.

Remember that the US is still the big dog in this global economy. When our citizens finally become outraged enough to make our government act, China’s economic growth will go back down to Earth.

Corporate America periodically follows trends that seem beneficial in the short term, but prove to be unsustainable in the long term. Exporting jobs to China and buying their cheaply mad crap is just that. It seems beneficial to corporations bottom lines, but what they are in fact doing is decreasing the wealth of their primary customers in the United States. Once Americans wake up to the fact that China is the number one contributor to our trade deficit and is in fact reducing our expandable income, something will be done.

'China is however somewhat dependant on the US for their economic growth.'
I'd agree. In fact more than just somewhat.
Which is why China is prepared to prop up the US economy to a point.
'Corporate America periodically follows trends that seem beneficial in the short term, but prove to be unsustainable in the long term.'
Damn right. Greed, instant gratification, profits at the expense of a stable society. Nothing stands in their way. I'd only add argue that it's not merely periodic but an historic pattern.
And the benefits seldom are realized by the average citizen, even less so now than any other time in the past seventy or so years.

I've been successfully navigating away from the dollar all my life. Gravity_Man said that.

touche'. well played.

Assuming, of course, that we even have 7 years left of oil to play with... which I (personally) am not confident that we do. Our burn rate is still increasing, too...

The entire paradigm is broken... and talk is cheap.

I'm sorry your forgot about the Billions Obama has spent in his NOT yet first year off office.

A drop in the bucket. And you can subtract $0.7 trillion from that figure which Bush signed off on as he left DC with his matching luggage and his al Qaeda decoder ring. No strings attached, I should add.

Whew, I thought you wrote the Plaidninja Church there for a sec.

I'd be a terrible religious leader. I'd refuse to be worshipped, though if people wanted to collect money for me I'd be ok with that. Also my only commandments would be try to treat people with decency & respect, and keep douchebaggery to a minimum.

And bring Firefly back on the air.

Plugging Firefly will lose your virginity and possibly the whole flock, and the Money.

Not the money! That defeats the whole purpose of having my own religion!

You've already mentioned your desire for your pew sitter's money... so many times you've driven your own flock into the hills. It's all down the drain now buddy. They spook to easy. You're going to now have to go FIND A JOB. Sorry.

NEXT APPLICANT! You already have experience? Great. Sign right here Mr. Swaggart.

well said

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I don't know what kind of drugs your doing. but you need to stop because your brain is getting soft. Never go with the Catholic Church. That is like crawling in bed with the devil himself. Keep the Church out of my life. I like the way things are going just give it time to work. Kind of like creeper bud just give it a bit longer to work.

Sorry Bailey, I was just presenting another view. The CC has control of untold wealth and Gold, and we seem to be short of both. Carry on.

Were i forced to choose, I'd go with China over the RC Church.

Saying you want the Catholic church in the government is basically saying you want a theocratic, totalitarian government. We have separation of church and state for a reason. Let people freely develop and live by their own codes of conduct, belief systems and world views.

No one here said "wants the Church". I said the Church has gold and worldwide land holdings. Ever hear of the American Indians? "You can't always get what you want" was a great song but in fact, the government does get whatever it wants. Always.

Governments do what they need to do, whether they call it for "National Security" or World Economic Security or whatever they want to call it. And this thing of being Tax Exempt hahaha shoots your separation of church and state full of holes ANYWAY. There is no separation where tax paying is concerned because the church physically resides on government property, because ultimately the gov owns everything, the "gov" being the citizens.

So when the majority of citizens decides it has had its fill of seeing any church all draped down in gold and jewel studded clothing prancing around on their TV sets while their children eat hot dogs and crackers you'll see some changes happen very fast. Natural change, change you will believe in.

When the man realizes he is the victim of an apples~oranges scam. Separation of church from state is a totally different matter apart from paying taxes on personal property. It's even in the Bible! Jesus said Pay back to Caesar what it Caesar's. Caesar prints the money, Caesar takes the money, preferably voluntary but if not there's other ways.

Churches should pay property taxes. hahahaha In fact, the more you think about it the more sense it makes, because churches not paying taxes forces non-believers to carry their load. That's against the Law. It's against the Bible, where it says each should carry his own load, if he doesn't work neither let him eat.

I'm laughing so much because the churches have snowed people for so long. They have run a shell game and won against the best shell gamer in the world => the U.S. Government. Wipeout. When your head stops being spun around and you stop long enough to actually FOCUS you have to accept that believers owe taxes on property just like non-churchgoers.

To give tax exemption to churches is favoritism... and borders on paying people -and the Pope- for being religious. Is that right? Taxing atheists to cover taxes the churches escape paying just because they believe in the Bible? Whew. Those days are gone baby.

All of which the above means that this recent "drive" to take the "excess monies" of "the Rich" is totally mis-directed. The Rich worked for their money, they earned their money, and their value is above money. They are paid for supplying jobs, so they are paid for more than their Work they're paid for being Smart.

On the other side of the coin when we look at the churches -specifically the Catholic Church- they possess and control money far above {ugh} greedy CEO's and they have not created near that many jobs. They just "Believe" and the money pours in, the antimatter of Jesus Christ himself.

Money pours in and never pours out, except of course charities they choose, but the reason they can be all gushy and giving donators to charities is because they represent billions of tax-exempt dollars held completely out of the nation's Economy. I would love to give to charities, but since all that money is kept in a separate place out of the Economy we out here live like paupers unable to give, and likewise also unable to feel that good feeling inside that comes from Giving to others.

The churches take that away from us all, so that the only way we have left to enjoy that good feeling is to JOIN A CHURCH. It's a damn feedback loop contrary to the Bible, contrary to Jesus and his life's teachings. Churches steal across the board from everybody, whether you're a churchgoer or not, so what it becomes is coercion to join them if we want to be Giving People.

I would like the Church to pay taxes and their members out of my pockets. If EVERYBODY paid taxes -including these special people wearing special collars talking in special tones to make sure everybody knows they're special- taxes could be cut in half. That's why so many outside the church have been reduced to beggar status needing handouts and soup lines, needing grant help to pay their children's college, needing help to pay for healthcare, needing handouts to pay for prescription drugs.

We have been coasting downhill since NAFTA. and the insane deregulation that started with St. Ronald.
It is thanks to the Republicans except for Clinton not vetoing NAFTA.
This ship is not coming up again, at least in my lifetime.

Yuk !

you are daft....

sorry but i want nothing to do with the NON constitutional US...

you people have allowed the greatest nation to grace the face of this planet to be taken over by a bunch of self centered children who would gleefully crown themselves kings and queens and let the nation burn... NO wait they are letting the nation burn... if you can not see the firesale coming you are still asleep.

dude... pull the stick out your ass an take a chill pill.
its gonna be ok... a few deep breaths... people aren't as bad as you were led to believe...

The Amero is only a good idea if you value modestly higher financial gains over US sovereignty.

Why not? Euro isn't good because of one country alone, but because of all it's lifted the currency.

Russia and China want to change because they want control. It has nothing to do with the dollar falling as they pretend. Even though China has a bit of control on America...they apparently want their name out there like Wal-mart or Disney. Why not make Firefly's future come true?

I Will only go to Mexico or Canada. There's enough places to visit so that I don't have to spend an arm and a leg just because talk about the dollar makes it worth less.

It has been PROVEN the whole world can fall together, so isn't it a given the whole world can also rise together once it's on the same currency? Imagine the beauty of traveling and doing business without any more necessity for constantly-changing {ugh} Exchange Rates conversions.

As far as the dollar losing value I don't have any so it doesn't matter. T. Boone Pickens just today presented a plan to President Obama to do a clunker program on all the nation's diesel trucks, replacing them with all new vehicles fueled by natural gas.

That wipes away 50% of U.S. dependence on foreign oil in one gigantic swipe of the new President's pen. With the electric hybrids PLUS all the new cars coming off the assembly line that will be getting 100 miles per gallon we're looking at a 85% reduction in foreign oil expenditures in the next 1-2 years.

Cleaner cities from less air pollution = less sick people = less healthcare costs + = reduction in EPA expenditures + get the EPA off the Detroit automakers backs for failing to meet emission standards.

if only that would happen.

"I Will only go to Mexico or Canada."
And you figure you can just 'go' there do you? Good luck.

As in visit.

Do you read?