Study finds Republican base paranoid, delusional

And... I don't think a study was required to illuminate that which is clearly obvious.

Showing liberal hate?

no, showing liberal common sense, and having a grasp of what is in plain view.

Everything you write here can equally apply to the Democrats.

Sweeping statement in itself makes it false.

really, I'd say that the corruption and party thing is much more true of republicans than democrats, and the statistics would agree with me. Evidence the health care debate. They both have a problem with it though. I suspect the party over nation complaint is one most easily leveled at the party not in control of the presidency at that moment no matter which one it is.

As for finding paranoid and delusional democrats, just do a search on this site for GMO crops and hemp oil. Everyone's got their crazies, but the republicans seem better equipped with the type of media to point them at the other party atm.

Bomb,

After reading your post I think a reformulation is in order.

Republicans and Democrats are paranoid, delusional, willfully corrupt, and unwilling to put country above party.

Both parties. Arguments of "my party is the lesser of two evils" still implies an understanding that our two party system is broken. How can one embrace evil, even if it is the lesser evil?

because the option of no evil does not exist. it's what's known as a "hard choice". You sound like a person angling for the libertarian third party thing, but IMHO the Libertarians are an order of magnitude more scary than either the republicans or the democrats. Two orders of magnitude more scary than the Democrats since they have very firm control of the competence and sanity platforms atm though that has not always been true in the past and will likely eventually change again.

The problem with Libertarianism today is it has become a dogmatic utopian philosophy based on obsolete science. Or more accurately a mathematical fudge that has been proven to be so inaccurate in an unacceptably large number of instances by modern science that it cannot reliably be taken as a given, especially in the blind and sweeping ways that libertarianism attempts to.

I'm with you on the libertarian thing. I look at it more like the Whigs. At one time a dominant party, the Whigs fell by the wayside as new ideas took hold. I think the Dems and Repubs are like the Whigs.

Doubtful. The Republicans have reinvented themselves twice in just the last 50 years, and are likely to do so again, though if they can't they may also go the way of the whigs they replaced. If they don't get on the ball fast though they re going to lose the next election badly even if the economy gets worse than it is now. I have never seen the republican party before with so very little to offer.

You can stick to your belief in supporting what you have identified as the lesser of two evils. You can pretend that their is a difference in the two parties. You can believe that the Dems will withstand a Repub resurgence in 2010. None of that will change the fact that neither of these corporatist parties put the people or the country first. As long as their are defenders of the status quo, like you, it is harder to get a Whig like party in power.

Why has your party not advanced the people's agenda as they hold the reins of power? It's not the Repubs fault, it would be the party in powers fault, the Dems.

I disagree with your claim that they haven't for one thing. The man made 500 campaign promises and has only dropped the ball on seven so far, with well over 200 either completed or in process.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

>"None of that will change the fact that neither of these corporatist parties put the people or the country first."<

That's just it. NONE of the parties do, to the exclusion of all else, though all of them claim to. You just have to find the one who sucks least. Right now IMHO it's a pretty easy call. That may change. The democrats are just as prone to running off the rails as the republicans are. The carpet bagger contingent generally hang with the republicans right now, but if the democrats settle into power for more than a couple elections that will shift too.

As for your statements about the democrats winning I didn't say that either, I just said the republicans would lose. If there was ever a decent shot for the independence party for example, this coming election may very well be it. I could very well see The Minnesota governor making a play for the republican nomination and being opposed by Ventura for example.

Maybe if they seriously confronted the issues facing their party without kicking some of the best and brightest (Colin Powell) out, the rest of us would begin taking them seriously.

Sorry, but a whole political party that believes that an ancient collection of anonymous writings could have ANY bearing on running a modern 21st century country equipped with nuclear weapons is nothing to take seriously.

When they start, let me know.

And Rush Limbaugh is the Baron Harkonnen.

thecyote23 , I think you may be on to something there .... I wouldn't know about beer though , never developed a taste for it .

very true. This isn't a study it's an editorial. Study seems to be becoming a meaningless word.

All things liberals use as facts.

dude that's not even a sentence.

It is.

At least it was more intelligible than Faux News!

No. They are just looking to steal from hard working people to make their fake utopia ideas.

"articulate, honest, intelligent, hard working, sane"

Those are excellent reasons to admit someone to medical school, but not to put them in the most powerful office in the entire goddamn world.

Its kind of difficult to hate on poor people when Reaganomics has destroyed our industrial base and sent all of our jobs to exploit slave labor. I am really getting sick and tired of assholes blaming the poor for everything.

There is no way you can say with a straight face that Obama was the most qualified candidate. Truly unprepared is a more realistic phrase.

i concur. :)

There are sooo many left-leaning reporters none really stand out.... who was the guy that got goose bumps down his leg for Obama? How 'bout Lizard Head! the empty minded loud mouthed noise maker? How "bout Katie, we can't forget cute little... I'll stop now.....she needs to be in a touchy feely show , not news... hows "The View" sound with Katie in hmmm what seat?
But both sides ARE off the deep end.
"We the people" need to TAKE BACK our country and get control over these power hungry, in it for themselves(for money, power, notoriety, whatever reason) politicians.
They ARE to be doing OUR bidding not the other way around. WE pay their salary!
What boss let's the employees run rampant over them?
We need to take back control over these out-of-control, egotists with their "payback" politics!! NOW.

You don't know Cornel West, do you? I shall enlighten. :D http://now.doctype.cx/?p=34

Words don't matter.

Actions do. Those words don't describe the actions that have been taken this year.

LOL!! So I guess ALL political parties match that description, don't they. I remember it was the Republicans that were desperately trying to get the courts to get news reporters to open up about who outed the Plame broad.

well since jjammer doesn't seem to actually be referring to any study at all and is merely making unfounded accusations his statement that words don't matter is somewhat ironic.

Neither does the fake study above.

Mine is backed with as much proof as theirs.

so what you're saying is that two wrongs makes a republican? :D

Now THATS(like what I said above) a definite stereotype!~

Take care of me, feds, from cradle to grave. I trust ya, man! You guys know whats best for all of us.
Like hell you do, you give a rats patuty about us.
You just keep passing those bills, collecting your perks and pushing for re-election in your area. Cause its never our guy that's the bad guy. Hell, he's gotten us a new airport, foreign car plants, new railroads and roads for those foreign plants, and tax credits because they give us jobs.......then when the taxes credits are over and it's time to pay up.... they are gone and all the workers are lost so he promises something else he gets to make us happy right around election time. He's on the front page of the paper, meeting with your mayors, and telling you how much he's doing for you. yada, yada, yada! Sound familiar?

Your preaching to the converted.
I hate them all.
party affiliation has nothing to do with it.
All politicians suck. They all would sell us down the river if there was a profit to be made or an election to be won

I really wanted to reply to this, but you pretty much took all the words right out of my mouth.

+1, mate.

For someone who hate's them all, you sure like playing their game.
The article makes a generalization about one group, so you retaliate by making another sweeping generalization... Well that's smart o.0
Only, you don't provide any evidence for your generalizations. You don't even have a pretend fact to back up your stance.

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Your perception of a liberal is really laughable, and your understanding of the US economy would be laughable if it weren't so destructive.

You are so blinded by your view that all liberals are lazy and want their hands held by the government that you have completely missed the fact that the conservatives you defend hold the hands of the rich to the detriment of everyone.

You routinely spit in the face of the vast majority of the hard working people in this country when you express the notion that poor people are lazy.

I have worked both skilled and unskilled jobs. 40 hours of unskilled labor was twice as demanding on my body than 60 hours of skilled labor and I got paid half as much and was never treated with any semblance of respect for that hard work.

If you think the working poor don't work hard, you are a lunatic.

If you think that the fact that we even have a class of working poor in this country is OK, you are immoral and self contradicting.

"conservatives you defend hold the hands of the rich to the detriment of everyone."

You are confusing assistance with recognition. Conservatives simply do not believe that the wealthy should be punished by sheer virtue of their income like liberals do.

You're talking about infinite arguments here. The working poor are given no respect because they deserve none from their managers. I've worked 80 hour weeks at barely over minimum wage, and it sucks. Then I went to college because I didn't want to do that nonsense for my entire life. The working poor has failed in that regard. I won't entertain ANY excuses in this matter, and neither do most conservatives. That's why you hate us, but please remember, we don't care.

I think you just proved that study right, sir.

you seriously need to get laid man. Maybe some medical Marijuana will help your situation.

It's not their income that bothers us. It is their inflated income relative to the work that they do, gained on the backs of their serf laborers that don't receive a living wage when there are plenty of resources around to provide for it.

This wouldn't be a problem in a truly free market, because the workers could just go somewhere where they were treated well, but guess what? It's not a free market.

You don't care, because you got lucky. You could afford to go to school. Even that doesn't get people into a job, these days, and it is cost prohibitive for absolutely no reason.

God forbid you lose your job and then get sick, ares. You don't care about those people, but it could be you any day.

I never said the working poor are lazy. I challenge anyone to point out where I said that. I was born and raised in Chicago....yes Slarabee, thats on planet earth, I have seen with my own 2 eyes people who dont want to work. They will not get off their lazy ass and get a job. Some have been on welfare for generations....NOT YEARS but generations. Parents raisng their kids to suck off the system. I have seen it. I know people who still do it to this day. I moved out of that shit hole on planet earth some folks call Chicago back in 88, I knew people back then on the welfare system and now their kids are on it. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. anyone who doesnt is a fool. I dont work 1 full time job on my farm and a second part time to full time job driving my truck so others can suck off the tax payers dollar. I work to provide for my family. I have absolutly no problem helping those in need and are trying to make a better life for themselves and their family. I do however have a serious problem with those that teach their kids how to milk the system. Anyone who does not believe that this goes on is fooling themselves. It goes on every day in this country and I for one am sick of it. No one helped me do anything. I made the life I have for myself with NO EDUCATION, I quit school when I was 15 because I needed to get a job to help support my mom. If you work hard at building a life for yourself, it will happen. It just takes determination and dedication to bettering yourself. Some have it, some dont. I make no excuses for those that dont. Obviously some of you do.

And to the **** who told me to get laid. My sex life is just fine, been married to the same gal for 21 years now. Yes marrige is hard, but again, hard work and deterimnation will make a lot of thing happen.

ARES: thanks much man.

If the working poor aren't who you are targeting, I don't know who. OK, so you saw some lazy poor people with a sense of entitlement in chicago 20 years ago and now you take your time to yell at liberals for being socialist when introducing the idea of taxing rich people... definitely not you... because they are pulling the resources and wealth away from hard working middle class (or should be middle class) americans... you.

By abusing the system in the exact same way that you saw the poor people in chicago 20 years ago, these "entitled" rich people are taking advantage of your simplistic views.

I would suggest you take a long hard look at where you are and what it is and who these liberals that you hate are fighting for.

20 years ago?????? You must have only read part of my reply. I clearly state that I have seen some of those same people from 20 years ago teaching their kids to suck off the same system they have been sucking off of for their entire life still to this day. I visit chicago......reluctantly.....because I still have family there, when I go I see old friends. The practice of sucking off the taxpers dollar for generations still goes on today. It goes on whether you believe it or not.

It is not the WORKING poor I have problems with. If someone is working...say like single moms....I have no problem helping them with childcare so they can work. I have no problem helping them with food stamps or any other type of assistance they may need if they are working 40 hours a week at a legit job. It is the people that choose to not work at all that I have problems with. If they dont want to work, they dont eat, have a place to live or anything else in life that they need until they get off their ass and get a job.
I dont work so others dont have to.

Where do you live? where are you from? what type of city did you grow up in? Did you see how folks live in some areas. They live that way by choice. It doesnt cost ONE PENNY to be clean. It doesnt cost a cent to pick up your garbage and put it in a can. I worked the ghettos in Chicago as a local truck driver. The city didnt put all the painting on the buildings, the city didnt abandon the cars there, the city didnt come out and break all the windows, the city didnt do anything other than give these folks free houses and they destroyed them.

I dont care if you believe in God or not. I do. Jesus said, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you will feed him for life. I am sick and tired if GIVING free shit to people who really dont deserve it. I have no problems helping someone get an education if the truly want one. That will teach them the skills they need to survive in life. Then they can support themselves. There is no reason why someone should be getting welfare and government aide if they choose to sit at home and do nothing.

The differance between me and many others is I decided to make something out of my life and I did it with no help from the government, no education and no father in the house. It can be done, you just have to want it.

and just to be clear, there are white ghettos in Chicago.....carneyville......bridgeport......... Hillbilly haven {which is next to midway airport} areas I wouldnt walk around in after dark. And I am a heavily tattooed white man with a shaved head.

I am only making it clear so you dont next accuse me of picking on a certain race because I used the term "ghetto"

This attitude you have towards social programs, is really a waste of your outrage.

First of all, welfare is a total takeover of a person's life to get on, and the assistance is minimal. Not only that, but if you are on it, you must demonstrate that you are improving your situation through working or going to school. I would consider that a good thing.

Welfare, food stamps and all these other things require only 2% of the federal budget which provides for domestic security in the form of crime reduction.

The department of defense, on the other hand, accounts for almost all of the federal individual income tax in the US, and expends over 20% of the budget.

"The global war on terror" costs at least 6 times as much as these entitlements, annually, and provides nothing to us other than the wasting of our resources and productivity. At least welfare pays back into the community and pushes people to make something of themselves.

The trillion dollar tax cuts implemented by Bush 2 (which was insignificant to the poor) with at least 10 times the price tag of welfare, did absolutely nothing good for our economy.

Frankly, I think you are barking up the wrong tree, and you are upset about things that are relatively insignificant to the whole. At the same time, you are attacking liberals, who are spending their time fighting for the middle class and against the BIGGEST wastes of our tax dollars. You make assumptions about poor people and liberals, namely that they are all on welfare. do you really feel like you are vindicated, here?

I want more millionaires and fewer billionaires. Does that make me a tree hugging, community sucking, socialist Obama worshiper?