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In Somalia wearing the wrong bra may get you whipped by Islamic crazies

source: http://www.littleabout.com/news/40315,somalias-islamist-group-whip-women-wearing-islamic-bra...

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Somalias hardline Muslim extremists have been ordering women to shake their breasts at gunpoint to see if they are wearing un-Islamic bras.

According to Daily Mail, the women are publicly whipped for wearing undergarments, as it is deceptive and violate Islam.

The insurgent group Al Shabaab has sent gunmen into the streets of Mogadishu to identify any women who appear to have a firm bust, said the residents.

The women are then inspected to see if the firmness is natural or the result of wearing a bra, reports Courier Mail.

Al Shabaab, which seeks to impose a strict interpretation of Sharia law over all Somalia, ask women to remove the bra and shake their breasts.

They are also whipping men caught without a beard.

The group has also banned movies, musical ringtones, dancing at wedding ceremonies and playing or watching soccer.
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74 comments // In Somalia wearing the wrong bra may get you whipped by Islamic crazies

  • nursediesel
  • RFIDemocracy
  • Birdmanbob4
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      Birdmanbob4  

    • I could go on for days with Hundreds of Videos but this is making me Sick. The truth is the Muslam religin is a Sick Religion and. When the courts is Muslam countrys finally decide Abolish Shariea Law. Admit Women have the same value as a man. and reforme it's system to resemble something out of the 20th Cebtury...Only then will I adjust my views on this matter

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      Your ignorance about Islam is astounding. An extremist bad apple doesn't represent a whole religion, just as the Phelps family doesn't represent all of Christianity. Your fears and hatred of Islam and Muslims are irrational, at the very best.

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
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      RFIDemocracy  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      I could take your comment and supplant 'Muslim' with the name of nearly any religion on the planet and get the same result. Women are every bit the second class citizen in anay Christian church. You will never see female pastors/preists/ministers in churches unless it's such a backwater they couldn't entice anyone else to live there.

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
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      RFIDemocracy  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      plusaf
      I agree, the numbers are increasing though in many parishes its still unheard of.
      Some churches embrace gays as well though many don't. It's still a hetero man's world for the most part.
      BTW, I was responding to birdman

    • 2 years ago
  • Leah123
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      Leah123  
    • RFIDemocracy:

      I disagree I go to a Christian church and A Husband and Wife Pastor it and I live in the "Bible Belt" of America and I have only been to several churches where the women are looked down on and those churches were run by "Old-Timers" and it practiced older beliefs.

    • 3 months ago
  • Birdmanbob4
  • Vierotchka
  • nursediesel
  • Birdmanbob4
  • Birdmanbob4
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      Birdmanbob4  

    • Political Correctness has taken away our societies ability to call a spade a spade. It is ok to inform the public of a Child Molester living in the neighborhood. But to say that your chances of having equal rights as a Woman living in the Muslim World are slim to none. The Left loves Multiculturalism but if you bring up the barbaric traditions of some of the cultures in the Muslim world they paint you as a Racist. I will speak the truth ...All Cultures is not created equal. Some Cultures are better than others. That’s a fact. To describe in words what Theying is here on Current will get me banned from Current A Company owned By Al Gore...Someone tell me why? I have already been warned once...These sick Bastards need something ...but we voted to no longer be the Police of the World..We only say we are now for freedom but to actually tell the World about what is involved with this sick culture is Racist......I don’t get it… Bob everyone ready to celebrate the Multiculturalism of this Tradition allowed under Shirea Law

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
  • hpseaton
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      hpseaton  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      I love multiculturalism and I'm a relativist, but I have a real problem with barbaric practices, whether done under the auspices of religion or culture. So where does that place me in your line between 'liberal' and 'conservative'? (I prefer to jump off the line, but that's just me)

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • RFIDemocracy
  • samthesixth
  • idealist
  • kennymotown
  • Kylsport
  • galwayman
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      galwayman  

    • these fanatics aren't even human and show what brainwashed religious psychos are capable of! any perceived threat to their power,freedom of ones person,and they will go to any means to rid themselves of it! these scum would kill their own family without a thought!

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
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      RFIDemocracy  
    • galwayman:

      Fanatics they are, and I make no apologies for their behavior, to say the least.
      But, claiming they are not human is way over the line. They are most certainly human.

      That statement sounds a lot like the claims Hitler made about the Jews.

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
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      samthesixth  

    • V,

      You say, "None of the alleged actions of this group are remotely connected to Sharia and Islam."

      Then why do the religious police, who are enforcing norms codified in Sharia Law, do some of the same things in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Iran?

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • samthesixth:

      None of those countries' police demand that women remove their bras and shake their breasts, and all of those countries have soccer teams and soccer matches. None of those countries enforce men to have a beard, neither do they forbid dancing at weddings nor do they ban movies.

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • Vierotchka
  • bielski
  • idealist
  • samthesixth
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      samthesixth  
    • samthesixth:

      "Nonsense." That's all you have V? Why not answer the question as to what Al Shabaab is trying to do? Oh, because if you did you would have to admit that they believe they are implementing Sharia Law and that wouldn't fit in to your neat little stereotype of Islamic jihadists as victims.

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  

    • Medieval society was not even this brutal.

      Fundamentalist Islam has become a stain on the Earth. It represents all that is wrong with mankind and religion.

    • 2 years ago
  • hpseaton
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      hpseaton  
    • Saladin:

      I agree. I'm all for 'religious tolerance' as long as that religion doesn't intrude into unwilling private lives. Islam continues to proclaim its peacefulness and inclusiveness with one face while hiding its draconian methods of persecution and control with another.

      Yes, Christianity is just as bad, it just doesn't have the political control (now) in many countries to make private lives into a living hell.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
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    • Saladin:

      You're right - Medieval society limited itself to mild and innocuous practices such as burning at the stake, drawing and quartering, disemboweling, and other such gentle practices, like all good Christians of the time! LOL!

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Saladin:

      True, Plusaf - and we must remember and keep in mind that Christianity is six hundred years ahead of Islam - and Islam is less violent at this point of its evolution than was Christianity six hundred years ago. In a sense, as a 14 year-old "teenager", Islam is more mature than was Christianity when it was a 14 year-old "teenager".

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • Saladin:

      A@V: "we must remember and keep in mind that Christianity is six hundred years ahead of Islam - and Islam is less violent at this point of its evolution than was Christianity six hundred years ago."

      Bull crap, Vierotchka. The difference between the behavior of ALL of society six hundred years ago and society today is... NOBODY KNEW BETTER six hundred years ago. It's ridiculous to try to judge TODAY'S society by the world's standards of six hundred years ago, but we CAN judge TODAY'S society by the world's standards of TODAY.

      Sorry, but YOU LOSE on this one. Good try, though.

    • 2 years ago
  • hpseaton
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      hpseaton  
    • Saladin:

      ummm 2helenahandbasket you are a christian right? So how can you hold that argument up when your faith relies on a 2000+ year old book for the bedrock of its existence? I suppose there was no need for updating that font of wisdom?

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
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      bielski [removed]  

    • These Islamic thugs are terrified of women.....and I mean petrified of their power and closeness to reality and the earth. They are really a bunch of psychotic wimps quaking in their sandals at the prospect of women freely expressing their natural sexuality. Somali women are particularly beautiful and noble, effortlessly highlighting the abject degeneracy of the midgets and homunculi who maliciously persecute and control them.

    • 2 years ago
  • hpseaton
  • Birdmanbob4
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      Birdmanbob4  

    • We all know under Islamic rule the value of a woman is not as much as a man. A female victom of rape can be Stoned to death removeing body parts as a punishment for a Suposed crime is way of life. In many Muslam Countrys they are living in the Stone age. The horror storys of women having surgery to remove the Clitoris is well documinated. to say that western culture is a better way of life is some how a Racest thing to say. Honer Killings is not something people just made up. Shiria Law does exist. Do not belive any one who tells you diffrent. Gogle the words "Clitores removal" "honer Killing" "Shirea Law" "Stoning Women" I dont have the time to show you the truth as your Teacher in school would say look it up your self..."Google it" and add the word Video and see for your self this Religon that is suposed to be all about Peace.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • 2helenahandbasket
  • RFIDemocracy
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      "Maybe primitaves who "call" themselves "Christians", maybe, but nowhere in the Christian Bible does it call for female genital mutilation."

      No, not primitives at all - the Christians in Egypt are sophisticated and highly educated, yet they practice this ancient custom that has absolutely nothing to do with religion or the Bible, just as nothing in the Koran calls for female genital mutilation.

    • 2 years ago
  • hpseaton
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      hpseaton  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      I don't care what the religion is...anyone who practices female genital mutilation are monsters and should be treated appropriately.

      But I think we can all agree that whatever the ruling religion is it helps 'enshrine' these backwoods practices and legitimizes them.

      Does any Islamic leader denounce the practice?

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • bielski
  • bielski
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      bielski [removed]  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      ooooh nice. You like me really. Yes I'm circumcised and I'm proud. And I've never had any complaints from women about it. On the contrary they prefer circumcised men. So I don't know what the hell you're talking about. But then what's new?

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Birdmanbob4:

      You must have been going exclusively with frigid women, then. Oh, and there is nothing to be proud of about being circumcised - unless you managed to circumcise yourself, and even then, it is not something of which to be proud.

    • 2 years ago
  • bielski
  • caverat101
  • RFIDemocracy
  • caverat101
  • sugarlilly
  • rwahrens
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      rwahrens  

    • Well, I guess the "Islamic" rules regarding not touching females in public can be violated "in god's name"!

      Nasty bastards...

    • 2 years ago
  • hpseaton
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  

    • Two things:

      One should take the Daily Mail's articles with a great deal of salt, because it publishes a great deal of nonsense and sometimes outright falsehoods.

      None of the alleged actions of this group are remotely connected to Sharia and Islam.

    • 2 years ago
  • rwahrens
  • hpseaton
  • Vierotchka
  • 2helenahandbasket
  • RFIDemocracy
  • hpseaton
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      hpseaton  
    • Vierotchka:

      I understand what you are saying Viero, but this group claims some Islamic interpretation for their actions. Are you saying they have no foundation?

      I would be quick to jump on any Christian or Jewish group, extreme or otherwise, that exhibited the same idiotic tendencies. I find no merit in any of the mono religions.

    • 2 years ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • Vierotchka:

      @RFIDemocracy: LOL! There are almost NO modern parallels to even fundamentalist Christianity and Islam. But maybe I'm just uninformed. Please open my eyes to the places on earth where Christian women routinely live the kind of lives as Muslim women under fundamentalist rule....

    • 2 years ago
  • RFIDemocracy
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      RFIDemocracy  
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    • Vierotchka:

      "There are almost NO modern parallels to even fundamentalist Christianity and Islam."

      Really?
      UNIVERSAL VICTIMS
      A chief similarity between Christian and Islamic fundamentalists is their patriarchal family structure and victimization of women. This is played out not only in private, but also in the public sphere where fundamentalisms rule. The appalling treatment of women in Afghanistan by the Taliban came to the forefront following 9/11. For example, women were regularly subjected to beatings at the hands of the Taliban's religious police. Their offenses? In some cases, reported Richard Lacayo in the December 3, 2001 issue of Time, simply the sin of wearing white socks or appearing in public without a burka. Spousal abuse and honor killings by family members have been the norm, and in some cases are legal, in many Islamic fundamentalist societies. In Afghanistan under the Taliban, women were also banned from working outside the home, except in a few specific healthcare positions.
      While US laws currently don't dictate female attire, not long ago it was sinful for women to show their ankles. Many were required to adhere to a strict and insufferable dress code. Though today's Christian fundamentalists do not generally require the head-to-toe garments worn by the Puritans of the past, many still allow only loose fitting dresses with high necklines, cut no shorter than the knee, often uncomfortable for the occasion or season.
      Obsessions with female purity are played out in other ways. In 1998, Alabama passed a law making it illegal to sell, distribute, or manufacture sexual devices, including vibrators. It was overturned in 2002, yet spoke volumes about how far Christian fundamentalists will go to impose their "values" on all US women. As if to hammer that point home, in April, Attorney General Bill Pryor filed his second appeal with the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta, challenging the most recent federal court ruling against the ban. Soon afterward, President Bush nominated Pryor to join the 11th Circuit as a judge.
      The role of women in Christian fundamentalist homes is generally well defined: wife, mother, and homemaker. Often, they are not allowed to work outside the home and are vulnerable to abuse, sometimes condoned, or at best dismissed, by the clergymen they may ask for help. Restrictive and unfair divorce laws and welfare reforms are also frequently proposed by the Christian right, measures that would make it more difficult, if not impossible, for women to leave lethal relationships.

      LASTING IMPRESSIONS
      In Islamic fundamentalist societies such as Pakistan, the indoctrination of children is commonplace. According to the October 15, 2001 issue of US News ~ World Report, boys, sometimes as young as six and often from poor families, are sent to religious schools (madrasahs), where socialization is severely restricted during their most critical years. In the madrasahs, they spend their first three years memorizing the Koran. Science and math aren't taught, and history is limited to the Muslim world. Reportedly, children in madrasahs are shackled and sometimes beaten. According to Philip Smucker and Michael Stachell, writing for Time, the Taliban was largely made up of graduates from these schools.
      With striking similarity, James Dobson, former professor of pediatrics and a popular conservative Christian voice heard by millions, summed up the Christian fundamentalist mindset in Children at Risk. "Those who control what young people are taught, and what they experience-what they see,
      hear, think, and believe-will determine the future course for the nation," he predicted. In the US, that is accomplished by home schooling or sending children to ultra-conservative Christian schools, where socializing that might open doors to critical thought is limited. The key concept of fundamentalist education is controlling what children learn.
      Continued...

    • 2 years ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • Vierotchka:

      You're post is pretty funny, and quite a stretch.

      Look, I can see where people who are not religious would mock or not understand anyone of any religion. You have to have an open heart and an open mind to understand. But your comparison of Christianity and Islam is lacking quite a bit. It's like this....

      When Christian women are routinely stoned to death, when the rape of a Christian woman can only be proved on the word of 4 male witnesses (WTF?), when Christian women are killed if they try to leave Christianity, when Christian women are run over by their own fathers for not being Christian enough or killed by their brothers for "honor" then come see me. And I could go on and on in my examples. Until then, you and other folks who try to compare the two religions don't know what the hell you're talking about and what you're saying is not at all based in any kind of fact.

    • 2 years ago
  • hpseaton
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      hpseaton  
    • Vierotchka:

      The only reason fundamental christianity isn't doing the same thing is because they don't run the government. Given the power I think we all know what would happen. Fundamentalism is the same, whether it be Christian, Muslim or Jewish. I assume you know your scriptures and therefore would know what would flow from a LITERAL interpretation of them from a group empowered to make the laws. (See the puritans for a good example).

    • 2 years ago
  • CarolineS
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      CarolineS  

    • OO so now Somalia has it's own version of the taliban, just a matter of time before the British and American "heroes" go in there to save everyone by way of blowing up the buildings, killing and torturing innocent people and creating an even more unstable government. All with our own money.

    • 2 years ago
  • idealist
  • RFIDemocracy
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