Is this one of the reasons we should legalize drugs?

My thought is that this is what you get when you criminalize a time tried and proven way to mellow out.. People start smoking any weed the DEA hasn't caught on too yet..
I personally thank this fool for waking people up about that poison.

i kinda want to read slarabee's comments )=

Take off Troy Palomalu's jersey the next time you want to make a jackass out of yourself by trying to glorify getting high.

Getting high for the camera.This guy is an idiot jerk. An overdose would have served him right.

ty.. I dont have kids but i have parents, and i would love for them to try it. They dont want to, but i offered it to them.. Why would you not want your kids to undergo the experience.. to allow them to drive a car is much more dangerous.

In British Columbia they grow pot called "Green Crack", actually a kush/skunk. Grows slowly but tastes creamy, and soft on the lungs.

ZOMG that's it! ok , Jammer, i'm a callin yew out!

ok mr certified judge of who a better person and who isn't...

have you ever done drugs other than caffeine or nyquil?
alcohol even?

if not, then please shut your uninformed hole.

Smoking weed now causes violence, and antisocial behaviour? What is this 1971? Christ there is nothing worse than ignorance spewed forth as fact.

Let me state this before someone goes off on me, I don't care what people do to themselves with drugs of any kind, as long as they don't do any harm to others I could care less if it's legal,..ok we clear on that? Now that being said, I have to tell you as a parent with 3 boys and two girls, it would break my heart to see any of my kids doing that to themselves. Those who don't have kids can't relate to what I'm saying and I understand that, those who do I'm sure understand what I've said.
I'm not judging here, I'm just saying.

hell yes thats why we should legalize drugs!

interesting.. i just think he was trying to fight it and that is where the danger lies.. education is key .. never fight that stuff, just surender and if u do that, you will not be able to walk. once we was helped up did the danger start.. never try to get up, allow it to push you down in your chair and you can learn somthing.. try to fight it and shake it off you have a problem..

Anyone who feels that he had no choice is wrong.. with some education he woudl not have moved..

gas is legal.. go take a big rip outa the gas can and see what happens..super glue anyone......?

Salvia isn't anything like weed...it rips you out of your own brain, for fuck's sake. And it IS legal. The drugs 'we' are trying to legalize are completely different. And YES, I think this should be legal too, because people should be able to do whatever they want. He was so out of it he couldn't have even contemplated driving, so where's the harm? If anything he came out of it with an increased appreciation for his own life...

Facts matter. We will never know how the peace movement would have turned out had not Richard Nixon chose to put politics before people.
When cannabis became popular, political figures like Richard Nixon, distorted the issue. http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/nixon06.pdf
In a textbook example of fear manipulation, Nixon warned the country that a plague of unimaginable proportions was about to engulf the nation. “The problem has assumed the dimensions of a national emergency,” he said. To fight the pushers on their own terms, he would need emergency powers — preventive detention, unorthodox strike forces, more freedom to search, wire tap, and arrest.

For scientific support, he appointed former Republican Pennsylvania Governor Ray Shafer to head a National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse. He told Gov. Shafer to treat marijuana just like heroin despite the "obvious differences between marijuana and other drugs." He was even more direct withchief of staff Bob Haldeman. "I want a Goddamn strong statement about marijuana...that just tears the ass out of them."

But after months of testimony from academics, medical experts, lawmen and health professionals, the facts overwhelmed the myths. The report was devastating:“Marijuana use, in and of itself, is neither causative of, nor directly associated with crime...” It found no basis for the gateway theory. Alcohol, it said, was probably a greater danger, and the report concluded that personal use of marijuana should no longer be a crime.

J_Jammer, I don’t know what I can tell you about the friends you have had, who smoked cannabis? But, I would recommend you get out more. A few bad friends, should not lead one to think cannabis is bad. It may be you don’t pick friends well. You may need to get out more and meet new people? Just a thought.

If drugs brought peace to the world then peace to this world would have already come about via Opium.

But that did not happen.

Then Marijuana became popular and what happened did peace come about? Nope. And even during the 60's with the peace marches and the pleads to remove from a country to stop a war the potheads were not all flowers and giggles. They were also not peaceful in their protest at all times.

Another violent streak and no peace.

Drugs tend to be a selfish endeavor with an idea that it opens the mind to more experiences that one wouldn't be able to think about had they not infiltrated their mind with an outside plant.

I have had friends that done Marijuana but not what drug this guy is doing. Those that did Marijuana are not the loyalist of friends. They are not very trust worthy either and tend to be hypocritical to an annoying extent. My experience with people that claim to be liberal and open minded and smoke---being none of those things. Totally backstabbing.

Would I be turned off if I had a friend that does that now? No. But those kind of people do not have a great track record. Even ones that I have met as acquaintances are not the same three things...open minded, loyal and liberal as they suggested.

They are also far more sensitive (like Atheist) than many annoying religious people I know. Sensitive being their own views about drugs cannot be countered because they are RIGHT. Ok...you be that nationalistic crazy Nazi person and I'll just let you be.

Legalize drugs.

There will be more backstabbing, disloyal and fake liberal people and the world will be worse for it. But it's already bad, how could it get worse?

this drug should not be legalized for obvious reasons marijuana, now that's a whole different story.Release the weed.

To anyone who's upset or raging because I asked a question, please relax! I'm not against drugs nor do I care for them.

I never used them and never saw a reason why I needed to. I saw this video, did some research and found out it was also a natural drug.

As to reason why I didn't mention alcohol? well it's legal and it's not up for debate.

So, I asked a question, loaded or not, it was a question and wanted some opinions from the users of natural stuff.
Thank you all for the comments and again, relax! your anger issues are not going to be resolved here.

I never heard of "Salvia" till now. What happened to the good ole days of pot, acid and coke?

Why don't we just start smoking Styrofoam? I'm sure we can get a good trip like that.

This was too funny though. He didn't look like he was enjoying that trip, so why would you want to do it?

im sure he learned his spiritual lesson.

Apples and oranges buddy..apples and oranges. This dude is not smoking marijuana otherwise he would have been having a way better time. But like he said "I ain't no pussy" LOL...

Salvia is already legal and possesses none of the addictive properties of "real" drugs. It is a plant that is mainly used for spiritual enlightenment (at moderate levels though). It tripped me the fuck out more so than acid or X did, but it has no actual effect on the brain other than mind-fucking the smoker.

Just like weed should not be in the same group as cocaine and heroine..neither should salvia be in the same room as weed.

I have no clue what this drug is, and really don't care. The intro by KS referenced natural drugs and posed the question is this what we're striving for?

In that respect Franks's comment above hit the nail. The question is loaded. Rather than stating the case, it IMPLIES that legalized natural drugs lead to this. Well, for a small percentage of people it does and one experience should warn those folks off. However, lots of folks have experienced losing it like that; that's a thing you learn about - not a place you end up. Everybody has limits, drugs or alcohol either one.

A lot of us tokers like to bring up the fact of "natural." I've never understood what that has to do with anything. The only kinds of drugs there are, are natural and synthethic. Natural doesn't equate to harmless. The poppy plant is natural. The coca bush is natural.

KS, I'd answer your question with no. That's not what we're striving for. And the answer to the question you didn't ask is also no. The guy in that video wouldn't be representative of life after legalization. He would be representative of something you'd see now & again. Ever see a drunk throw up?

I'm not real cool with all drugs being legal. Some of them are truly dangerous. Physical addiction is no laughing matter. However, to decriminalize possession of small amounts of drugs - to stop locking up the users - is a step in the right direction. Jail time isn't a deterent for junkies. Nor does drying them out cure them. To keep the number of addicts down the best approach is rehabilitation - not incarceration.

I didn't mention marijuana in there on purpose. It's not physically addicting and you can't OD on it. If youi're not going to put alcohol in that group, then pot doesn't belong there either.

someone should do a Vanguard piece of salvia

I didn't like Salvia the affects are to strong. Canabis is alot better I don't know what the long affects of the salvia to make a disicion on it. I say lets just try for the canibis to legalize first before we try other drug. Plus salvia is already legal in Cali.

First of all, he did a 40x extract and a large ammount at that. I don't think anyone who has done slvia before would reccommend such a high dose being smoked. Salvia is pretty much harmless when done at proper dosage levels.
As to the whole pot debate, this video is completely irreleveant. Pot is NOT EVEN CLOSE to salvia in terms of psychedelic properties. Arguments like this one only add to the stigma attached to drug use; perhaps we should not allow salvia to be included in the debate.

that is not a natural drug.. it is concentrated salvia ..40x concentrated... this is weeds enemy.......

Yes, this is what I am striving for. In the privacy of his own home this man smoked salvia and freaked out. His business not ours.

Salvia is legal and its helluh gay.
i bought a 70x from the internet, well my brother did for me. Smoked it with a couple buddys, and one of my my friends pissed him self.
If you like a non though loose you mind feel. its for you. but its helluh gay. i just rather stick with green. cause if it aint green, baby its mean.

He is doing this responsibly.

I don't see a problem here.

This just shows the silliness of our drug laws. Salvia is ugly. I don't know why anyone bothers. Alcohol can be ugly too. Why are these legal and pot not? There is no rational argument for it.

It can't possibly matter to anyone if that guy is wasting his time freaking out on salvia or wasting it binging on Doritos and Playstation.

Salvia Divinorum - Is in no way comparable to THC. He was smoking 40x which is how high the extract is and that is extremely strong. This is a type of drug for an "spiritual experience" and as you can tell if you are not right minded you are going to trip balls...You need to understand that this is not a drug that induces addiction or for any concern something to do to have a good time with. This is a drug that has been used in spiritual rituals to open your mind and inflict a out of body experience. To post such a video and compare it to any other natural drugs which I assume is mainly Marijuana is right out stupid. And obviously shows that you are fighting against something you know nothing about.

Thats what you get when you smoke something that really shouldn't be smoked.

I can't help but chuckle when I hear young kids and sadly many people my own age hype up Salvia trips.

Can't these people be normal and do drugs like acid or mushrooms?

"After all the best of what you know may not be told to boys." - Sigmund Freud

"A child should be disciplined by a parent, for a brat may be beaten by a neighbor"- myself

They give kids like this permission to drive motor vehicles, drink alcohol and have unprotectected sex! Grow up, stop blaming YOUR problems on anything but YOUR self... Don't take responsibility from others, take responsibility for youself... WWJD?

that shit looks worse than booze, its nothing like cannabis......fail ! voted down

Legalizing drugs is such a broad term. While I do support reclassifying cannabis hemp, I do not support legalizing all drugs.

Cannabis hemp is a plant unto it's self. Scaring people with 'all drug legalization' will be the end of the discussion. Many will shut down the thought of cannabis legalization if they fear all drugs would also be legal.

Who can blame them? Many illegal drugs have destroyed families, led to crimes, etc. Even if drugs like heroin and cocaine were legal, people would have problems, it's the nature of the beast. Cannabis is not equal to heroin and cocaine.

I can't comment about Salvia, I have no knowledge of it's usage, or it's history.

this stuff is completely legal and has been used in religious traditions for centuries. that stuff should NOT be concentrated, it's strong enough in it's natural form.

Completely different type of drug compared to marijuana. Misleading video/title as the push is to legalize marijuana and not something like saliva.

not that i'm the skinniest person, but thank god they were fatties cause it definitely looked like he was on the floor and couldn't get up for a while.

now, beyond that, wtf are people doing? who decides what's good to smoke anymore? this is getting ridiculous.

i've seen ppl do worse sht on alcohol, legalize bud not salvia

Wasn't this a good thing? I don't know that he will do it again.

Opposing anti-drug laws doesn't always mean one supports using drugs.

I also think the hysteria over salvia (which, by the way, is still legal) is just another hand-wringing moral panic done in the name of "protecting the children."

Uhh, how many drunk people have we seen act out of line? Start fights over nothing? Pass out? Get rushed away to hospitals dying from poisoning? Make crazy noises while crying and puking at the same time?

Ok, so we can all agree? Drugs are no strict joke. But at the same time, we can't take examples of salvia trips and generalize their issue of legality by saying "This is what you will be if we decriminalize drugs like marijuana!"

Drugs are different, they do different things to people, and should be treated accordingly. This man was possibly not properly educated or introduced to this drug by someone who could have helped him, or merely given him a smaller dose for a more tangible experience.

Salvia is no joke though, and I would not mind if it was illegal. But that won't change the fact that people will do it.

At least he had trip sitters. This will happen regardless if drugs are legal or not. I've seen worse drunk people for hours on end on campus.

I bet he is a lot more fun when he is drunk.

Let's see, where do I begin? Okay, was that just marijuana? He was a pretty big boy and breathing problems are not uncommon in people that size, so perhaps he should invest in a vaporizer or even better, the brownie delivery method.

This does not change my mind about marijuana legalization. It should be legal.

It does make me wonder about people that video tape their friends having a bad reaction to something and then posting it on You Tube. That should be illegal. It will never be illegal, but it should be.

hahahaha....o man, that was about the funniest thing i've seen in a week....

yes, i believe we should legalize exactly for this reason...that was some great entertainment, i'd pay for that shit....

hahahaha...but anyway....as my very old toke buddy told me:

"weed doesnt' make you stupid, stupid makes you stupid"....

hahahahahaahah